Is this normal ? (level 50+ chars)

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:42 am

Greetings,

I wanted to know if the difficulty I'm encountering is normal, because if that's the case I'll just start over after 100+ hours of gameplay or just stop playing at all.

I am lvl 54, playing in adept difficulty, I have a full Dragonbone armor, eveyrthing is enchanted with +resist or +heavy armor wich gives me around 630 AC, 60% resist fire/cold/shock and around 30% magicka resist. I have a Daedric Greatsword (upgraded and enchanted) but every Forsworn, Fire Wizard (hell, even some Draugr Deathlord with an Ebony Bow) are one shotting me. I have 250 hp btw and puting a shield on doesn't change anything (sometimes I don't die with the first hit, but i'm left with like 20 health remaining). I am encountering that kind of difficulty since lvl 50, yes prior to that the game was quite easy but now it's like a living hell.

Game is fully patched to 1.3 and this is HIGHLY annoying. What's the point of having maxed blacksmithing, enchanting, heavy armor, two handed and wearing a full set of badass armor with an owning weapon if a guy half naked weilding wood and stones weapons can one-shot me ? I don't mind if you make Dragons or some bosses stronger but every single mob there is out there is to much, it took me a lot of kiting and about 10 minutes to clear 1 Briar and 2 Ravager.... I'm at a point where I can't enter any dungeon at all or I have to quick save every 3 seconds because I could die any moment from anything. I don't mind a challenge, but you need to sort your scaling out. In Skyrim you don't potentially become has powerfull as in Oblivion with each level since your max hp and damage doesn't scale each time (people who spent a lot of time on Oblivion will understand what I'm talking about).

If this is a known issue/bug, don't mind me, I checked the forums and the patch notes apparently the "resist bug" was fixed..... Geez I hope it was not and I hope armor is bugged, really, because this is stupid, this si the 1st time I encounter that kind of difficulty after finishing Morrowind and Oblivion at least 3 times each.

Thanks for your time.
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Louise
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 pm

250 Health at level 54 is your problem. Enemies scale with you (though I think it stops at level 50 - but don't quote me on that), and 250 Health at that stage is kind of odd. I'm a level 50 Thief, and I've got 400 Health when wearing enchanted items. And that's not enough to be totally safe on Expert.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:34 pm

Your HP seems a tad low for a Heavy two handed warrior. It should really be double that by now, what have you been spending your points on?
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:17 pm

That doesn't sound normal. I don't come close to getting one shotted on adept, even by ice mages and deathlords. They hurt, but not that much. you definitely have low health.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:48 am

250 Health at level 54 is your problem. Enemies scale with you (though I think it stops at level 50 - but don't quote me on that), and 250 Health at that stage is kind of odd. I'm a level 50 Thief, and I've got 400 Health when wearing enchanted items. And that's not enough to be totally safe on Expert.

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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:52 pm

Roughly I have around 150 mana, 250hp and 400+ stamina. Ok thanks guys, so apparently I should have twice that amount of health, does that mean that I should be two-shotted instead of one-shotted ? I clearly feel better lol.... I guess i'll create a destro mage next....

Anyway I think that the damage output of most of these is ridiculous with the armor I'm packing. I guess that's just me....
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:23 am

Maybe use health enchantments instead. :cryvaultboy:
Your character sounds like a melee type, and for that seems to have very little health, especially on that level. I mean, my stealthy assassin has 200 health on level 25 on adept and some enemies one-hit kill me, if I am exposed.
Briarhearts are really along the toughest enemies in the game, try using paralysis poisons and the likes or shield bash them a lot. Or sneak up and pickpocket their heart to instakill them, though I don't think your char is fitted for that.

I don't know of any bug, but scaling in Skyrim is odd at times and some areas are supposed to be very hard. If there's nothing else to do, maybe just scale down the difficulty. It always hurts pride a little, but sometimes it's necessary if you don't enjoy dying to the same dude for 20 times. :sadvaultboy:

//Edit: As for the values, if you're on PC use the console and swap some stamina for health by using "player.setAV Stamina [x]" and "player.setAV Health [x]" to change your values to an amount you like.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:52 am

15 levels of health picks by level 50 will not be the most effective warrior. Just saying.
If I were building a Warrior character I'd have at least 25 levels of health picks by 50 (350 naked health) plus enchants and fortify potions and you should be pretty durable.

Both armor and Resists cap at about 80%. but you can theoretically surpass the cap with avoidance (light armor tree) and absorbtion (atronach stone / alteration perk).
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:43 pm

15 levels of health picks by level 50 will not be the most effective warrior. Just saying.
If I were building a Warrior character I'd have at least 25 levels of health picks by 50 (350 naked health) plus enchants and fortify potions and you should be pretty durable.

Actually 15 x hp, 5 x mana (resto), and 30 x sta doesn't sound so bad for me (especially if you want to swing a twohander pumping stamina like hell and weighting a lot since each lvl up in sta give +5 carry)

Maybe I made the mistake of wanting to play my char a little to hybrid and failed at building a proper melee but from where I am now I could maybe withdraw those 5 levelups in mana but clearly not those in stamina

Edit : i'm being one shoted by guys dual weilding mostly and by arrows, the stuff my armor should mitigate the most
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:00 am

Sure, get angry with the people who are pointing out where YOU went wrong. That's smart.

Fact is you messed up your points, I mean Magicka? On a Two handed warrior? Makes total sense. Those enemies you described are the toughest in the game, deathlords and Briarhearts, it wouldn't matter if you had 1000 HP, they'd still kill you in six or seven hits. But for everything else it should be fine with about 600 HP.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:04 pm

I wouldnt say thats normal at all tbh, I dont know what are the skill tables for adept (I play on master tho), but I think its safe to say at that level they are using expert rank spells/max rank poisons, and 100 weapon skill, without elemental/magic protection (and people have been reporting it not working or even making them vulnerable) you can easily go down in a burst of 4 hits but definetly should not be one shot

having that said lvl 50+ as a melee char having that low HP is very bad... I have more than that on my pure mage.... way more and he certenly depended more on mana than warriors depend on stamina, you obviously made way too high investment on stamina.

tips to avoid problem:
to be one or two shotted by spells having resists, means you are experiencing resist bug aswell, not much can be done there, apart from investing in restoration and using wards agaisnt casters.
armor cap is 550 or so, loose the armor enchants, get HP enchants, do the same for resist enchants if you really are experiencing bug... I honestly dont know how you are getting one shot by archers tho... can only think of poisons doing it, but... never hapened to me
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:50 am

Wow. I'm a stealth/sword and board/bow character and I have almost 400 HP at level 51... About 370 Stamina. (that's upgraded by equipment sure, but 250 HP is pretty low.

Aside from that, I have no idea. I'm not having that problem at all. Occasionally Deathlords will hit me really hard, and I'll take a few potions to get back to full health, but nothing is one or two shotting me on adept. Even when my equipment was only "flawless".
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:50 am

Sure, get angry with the people who are pointing out where YOU went wrong. That's smart.

Fact is you messed up your points, I mean Magicka? On a Two handed warrior? Makes total sense. Those enemies you described are the toughest in the game, deathlords and Briarhearts, it wouldn't matter if you had 1000 HP, they'd still kill you in six or seven hits. But for everything else it should be fine with about 600 HP.

I'm not getting angry, and I thank you all for the quick replies, I just can't imagine after all those hours played playing with less stamina, yes the mana is probably wasted, but that's 50hp more.

Anyway ty guys, i'll get back to being owned !
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:48 am

yea some certain characters are overpowered . i have 200 and something health and have been one shotted by NPC with an ebony bow. thing is after i got them,the ebony bow only did 31 damage and arrows were normal. so something was over powered there.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:10 pm

How come you put so much into Stamina? So you can carry alot of loot and or do alot of running?
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:05 pm

Wait, there must be something off. I'm a level 48 nord warrior (sword and board) and I'm wearing 390 armor instead of the 1200 I could wear because melee enemies barely touch me even if I let them hit me... Is there a significant buff to enemies at level 50?

EDIT: I'm on master and got like... 410 HPs.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:13 pm

Wait, there must be something off. I'm a level 48 nord warrior (sword and board) and I'm wearing 390 armor instead of the 1200 I could wear bcause melee enemies barely touch me even if I let them hit me... Is there a significant buff to enemies at level 50?

That's what I'm asking myself Arzalar, because I pretty much steamrolled through the content after spending hours crafting/tradeskilling trying to get a very nice equipment (despite 250 health mind you) and suddenly i'm getting owned

@ Davor : yeah the carry capacity and the fact that you need to run + power attack for a guaranted crit on an enemy, wich makes you starved quite fast if you fight more than 2 enemies at once
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:23 pm

That's what I'm asking myself Arzalar, because I pretty much steamrolled through the content after spending hours crafting/tradeskilling trying to get a very nice equipment (despite 250 health mind you) and suddenly i'm getting owned

@ Davor : yeah the carry capacity and the fact that you need to run + power attack for a guaranted crit on an enemy, wich makes you starved quite fast if you fight more than 2 enemies at once

My It be related to the new patch? Has some kind of buff gone through?

PS.: Try the Steed standing stone, It'll do wonders.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:56 am

Actually 15 x hp, 5 x mana (resto), and 30 x sta doesn't sound so bad for me (especially if you want to swing a twohander pumping stamina like hell and weighting a lot since each lvl up in sta give +5 carry)

Maybe I made the mistake of wanting to play my char a little to hybrid and failed at building a proper melee but from where I am now I could maybe withdraw those 5 levelups in mana but clearly not those in stamina

Edit : i'm being one shoted by guys dual weilding mostly and by arrows, the stuff my armor should mitigate the most


Use of restoration is not really a hybrid, its a warrior with heals, but you need to decide if you want a sturdy warrior, or a high damage dealer. Currently your attributes suggest your trying to dish out constant high damage, and your survivability is suffering because of it.
I would have guesed it would be more effective to go 1:1 Health:Stamina and a few extra in mana for spells, but I tend to value survivability over high numbers of power attacks...
Stamina is not the same as mana, you can still attack without it, and it builds up in combat decently if you are doing normal attacks or eating food. All the stamina in the world is not going to help if you can't take a few hits though.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:15 pm

The problem like others said is your HP, since you made your character an image of yourself what else do you expect?
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:25 am

yea some certain characters are overpowered . i have 200 and something health and have been one shotted by NPC with an ebony bow. thing is after i got them,the ebony bow only did 31 damage and arrows were normal. so something was over powered there.


With bows, they're probably crits and with dualweilders they are probably power attacks. Remember players can have +100% bow damage and 30% crit rating from low level perks, who knows what kind of perks archer mobs get.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:22 pm

Actually off topic but this is a good thread to get an answer for my new character. I just started with a new nord female, Heavy Armor and a Two Handed Battleaxe. Now I want to know how much more damage recieved will I get more then using a sword and shield? Which is better or not much difference in blocking??
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:30 pm

Actually off topic but this is a good thread to get an answer for my new character. I just started with a new nord female, Heavy Armor and a Two Handed Battleaxe. Now I want to know how much more damage recieved will I get more then using a sword and shield? Which is better or not much difference in blocking??


Shield blocking is very powerful defence, afterall there is a block skill. You can still play 2hndr but need to accept your character is a more aggressive type and you will not be able to take hits as much as a board weilder.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:16 pm

Wait, there must be something off. I'm a level 48 nord warrior (sword and board) and I'm wearing 390 armor instead of the 1200 I could wear because melee enemies barely touch me even if I let them hit me... Is there a significant buff to enemies at level 50?

EDIT: I'm on master and got like... 410 HPs.

I did notice that after reaching 50 that there seems to be a distinct change in enemies. For example, 9 out of ten draugr are deathlords, the rest are either scourges or death overlords. Ancient dragons are also beginning to appear, which can two shot me with flames and one shot me with melee, and thats with a hefty resistance to magic. (breton)
But at your level, I'd assume that you are beggining to run into similar situations, it's just at lv 50 that I started noticing more.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:31 pm

Shield blocking is very powerful defence, afterall there is a block skill. You can still play 2hndr but need to accept your character is a more aggressive type and you will not be able to take hits as much as a board weilder.

Thanks :)
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