This old thing again...

Post » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:10 am

I recently decided to start playing oblivion again, and I'm having some trouble...

First off, here's my LO:

SNIP

I've been having a few issues, like CTDs, missing meshes, etc... and I have no clue why... any help and suggestions would be much appreciated...

thank you
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Farrah Barry
 
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Post » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:26 am

Missing meshes and WTF symbols usually mean something's not installed correctly, or you missed a required resource. FormID finder would help track those down.

As for your LO--have you run that through BOSS? If not, you should. Just make sure you have the latest masterlist.txt. I also don't see a Bashed Patch anywhere on there.
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Taylor Tifany
 
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Post » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:18 am

I recently decided to start playing oblivion again, and I'm having some trouble...

I've been having a few issues, like CTDs, missing meshes, etc... and I have no clue why... any help and suggestions would be much appreciated...

thank you


First, I'd really recommend Wrye Bash if you're not using it already. For one thing you get load orders with version numbers with it, which is very helpful when trouble shooting. But it has loads of useful features so it's pretty much a must if using many mods. If you already have it, post your load order via it instead: right-click file-header > list mods > paste into post.

If using the latest MMM, which is recommended, make sure that you have renamed the bsa correctly, in your case Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.bsa.

For OOO, make sure you have OOO 1.33 Complete installed and not just the OOO 1.34 Beta 5 patch.

Also, update Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1116296-relz-martsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/page__view__findpost__p__16393704 if you haven't already.

Regarding stability, I'd recommend getting a stable core install before adding other mods. In your case I'd first focus on getting a stable MMM/OOO/Cobl install.

Also:

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp - Has some issues IIRC. Consider switching to All Natural instead.
Living Economy.esp - Has some issues, use Enhanced Economy instead.

Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - NoReaversInGates.esp - No need as you're using ^.
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Post » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:25 am

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp - Has some issues IIRC. Consider switching to All Natural instead.
Living Economy.esp - Has some issues, use Enhanced Economy instead.

Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - NoReaversInGates.esp - No need as you're using ^.

okay, gonna switch to enhanced economy, as for natural weather, I used the recommendation of BOSS (Ryu Doppler's bug-fixed version) http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14918

and I removed the redundant no reavers plugin

New LO:

SNIP

currently CTDing the minute I save...
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Post » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:05 am

okay, gonna switch to enhanced economy, as for natural weather, I used the recommendation of BOSS (Ryu Doppler's bug-fixed version) http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14918

and I removed the redundant no reavers plugin

New LO:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]03  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]04  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]05  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]06  Better Cities Resources.esm07  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.0]08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0B  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]0C  Better Cities .esp0D  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp0E  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp0F  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp10  WindowLightingSystem.esp11  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp12  Cobl Bookjackets.esp13  P1DseeYouSleep.esp14  Cutthroat Merchants.esp15  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]16  DLCHorseArmor.esp17  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]18  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]19  DLCOrrery.esp1A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1B  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]1C  DLCVileLair.esp1D  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1E  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]1F  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp20  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp21  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]22  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]23  DLCSpellTomes.esp24  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]25  Book Jackets DLC.esp26  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp27  M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp  [Version 1]28  DLCThievesDen.esp29  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]2A  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]2B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]2D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]2E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2F  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]41  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]42  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp  [Version 1.39c]44  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]45  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]46  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]47  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]48  Castle_Dunkerlore_V1.esp49  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp4A  DLCFrostcrag.esp4B  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]4C  SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2]4D  Knights.esp4E  Knights - Book Jackets.esp4F  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]50  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]51  M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp  [Version 1]52  M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp  [Version 3]53  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]54  The Lost Spires.esp55  Weye.esp56  ElsweyrAnequina.esp57  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6]58  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.3]59  West Roads.esp5A  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp5B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]5C  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5D  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5E  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5F  100% Harvest Chance.esp60  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]61  SleepRestAnyTime.esp62  M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp  [Version 1]63  M.O.E. - Disable Fast Travel.esp  [Version 1]64  M.O.E. - Travel Services.esp  [Version 3]65  M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp  [Version 1]66  M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp  [Version 1]67  M.O.E. - New Classes.esp  [Version 1]68  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]69  Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp  [Version 1.0]6A  PWRunSpeed.esp6B  RealisticForceMedium.esp6C  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp6D  M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp  [Version 1]6E  M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp  [Version 1]6F  M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp  [Version 2]70  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]71  RealisticLeveling.esp72  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp73  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp74  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp75  M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp  [Version 1]76  M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp  [Version 1]77  M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp  [Version 1]78  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]79  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]7A  Better Cities Full.esp7B  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp7C  Better Imperial City.esp7D  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp7E  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]7F  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp80  NoLoad.esp81  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp82  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp83  MergedMaps.esp84  Bashed Patch, 0.esp


currently CTDing the minute I save...


First, you should update http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1119240-relz-oscuros-oblivion-overhaul-133/ as the latest MMM release requires it. Then I'd recommend starting out with fewer mods - it's always difficult to trouble shoot with lots of mods from the start. Make sure you have a stable core install of, say, MMM, OOO and Cobl before starting adding other mods.
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Post » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:38 am

okay, adding ooo 1.34b5 fixed... pretty much everything. So thanks for that. Now, I have a slight issue, and I'm curious if there's a patch for it...

It seems M.O.E. Delayed quest start slightly conflicts with better cities (anvil specifically) as once I left the ship (it didn't ctd this time :D) I found two ships in the same spot. One from better cities called: Night's Scream, and one from MOE delayed quest start called: The Floating Log

If there's a fix, I'd love it. If not, I need to know if Night's Scream is important, or can I just delete is in the CS?
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Post » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:03 am

Well, pretty much every issue has been solved, but I need a little help on misc things... The above post is the first one... still need to know if that ship is important...

I'm also having an issue with Light spells... they aren't working like they do in vanilla oblivion, and I don't know why... I noticed it when I tried out the starter light spell. instead of it being an orb of light surrounding me, it was a VERY small ball of light following my crosshairs... not to say it isn't an interesting idea, but when the light ball is only 2ft wide, and the spell says 30ft, there seems to be an issue...

Any help would be appreciated

newest and, hopefully, final load order:


Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]06  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]07  Better Cities Resources.esm08  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.0]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0C  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]0D  Better Cities .esp0E  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp0F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]10  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]11  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]12  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp13  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1]14  WindowLightingSystem.esp15  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp16  Cobl Bookjackets.esp17  P1DseeYouSleep.esp18  Cutthroat Merchants.esp19  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]1A  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp1C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]1D  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]1E  DLCOrrery.esp1F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]20  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]21  DLCVileLair.esp22  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]23  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]24  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp25  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp26  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]27  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]28  DLCSpellTomes.esp29  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2A  Book Jackets DLC.esp2B  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp2C  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2D  M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp  [Version 1]2E  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp2F  DLCThievesDen.esp30  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]31  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]32  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]33  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]34  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]35  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]36  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]37  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]38  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]40  Mart's Monster Mod - No Werewolves.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]41  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]45  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]46  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]47  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]48  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]49  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]4A  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]4B  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]4C  TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp  [Version 1.39c]4D  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]4E  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]4F  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]50  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]51  Castle_Dunkerlore_V1.esp52  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp53  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp54  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]55  DLCFrostcrag.esp56  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]57  SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2]58  Knights.esp59  Knights - Book Jackets.esp5A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]5B  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]5C  M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp  [Version 1]5D  M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp  [Version 3]5E  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]5F  The Lost Spires.esp60  Weye.esp61  ElsweyrAnequina.esp62  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6]63  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.3]64  West Roads.esp65  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp66  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]67  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]68  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]69  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6A  100% Harvest Chance.esp6B  phinix_portable_tent.esp6C  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]6D  SleepRestAnyTime.esp6E  M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp  [Version 1]6F  M.O.E. - Disable Fast Travel.esp  [Version 1]70  M.O.E. - Travel Services.esp  [Version 3]71  M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp  [Version 1]72  M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp  [Version 1]73  M.O.E. - New Classes.esp  [Version 1]74  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]75  Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp  [Version 1.0]76  StarX Vampire Deaths.esp77  RealisticForceMedium.esp78  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp79  M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp  [Version 1]7A  StolenItemOwnership.esp7B  M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp  [Version 1]7C  M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp  [Version 2]7D  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]7E  RealisticLeveling.esp7F  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp80  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp81  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp82  M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp  [Version 1]83  M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp  [Version 1]84  M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp  [Version 1]85  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]86  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]87  Better Cities Full.esp88  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp89  Better Imperial City.esp8A  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp8B  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]8C  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp8D  NoLoad.esp8E  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp8F  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp90  Bashed Patch, 0.esp91  MergedMaps.esp

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