Is this similiar to Morrowind? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:27 pm

If you played both MW and Oblivion and you can't tell the difference, I truly can't take you seriously.

They're both just good games... that's it. :shrug:
Morrowind was unique, yes it was, did I like it? Yes and no, it was an alien world that I'm not used to, but I played it anyway, and it was a great choice. Oblivion was the opposite, it was the familiar world that drew me into it. :3

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:35 pm

Yeah I agree with the OP. Even when morrowind was new I didn't much care for it. And since I don't care to manage stats in an RPG, I'm even more psyched for Skyrim... People talk about complexity and I think that's nonsense. If you want to go and play around with numbers you should play a sports game or get a job with the IRS. RPG means role playing game. play the role. the numbers are unnecessary. it's all about immersion and story. All the "old school" elder scrolls fans who keep whining about stats need to wake up or shut up. the games are getting better and better.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:34 pm

Yeah I agree with the OP. Even when morrowind was new I didn't much care for it. And since I don't care to manage stats in an RPG, I'm even more psyched for Skyrim... People talk about complexity and I think that's nonsense. If you want to go and play around with numbers you should play a sports game or get a job with the IRS. RPG means role playing game. play the role. the numbers are unnecessary. it's all about immersion and story. All the "old school" elder scrolls fans who keep whining about stats need to wake up or shut up. the games are getting better and better.

Exactly video games should not have that much complexity. Go play a virtual algebra classroom game if you want all those numbers and stats. some people do not even understand what the elder scrolls is about.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:57 pm

:flamethrower: Troll. People seem to forget that Morrowind was released in May 2002 and what it achieved in terms of open world rpgs at the time was breathtaking and no other game has come close to it's scope. Oblivion focused on gameplay changes, Skyrim as many people have said is a blending of the two. Seriously, where do you get these idiotic thoughts in your head? First it was snow melting, now this....
If you thought Morrowind was too complex, then there are some serious issues with your intellect

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:16 pm

:flamethrower: Troll. People seem to forget that Morrowind was released in May 2002 and what it achieved in terms of open world rpgs at the time was breathtaking and no other game has come close to it's scope. Oblivion focused on gameplay changes, Skyrim as many people have said is a blending of the two. Seriously, where do you get these idiotic thoughts in your head? First it was snow melting, now this....
If you thought Morrowind was too complex, then there are some serious issues with your intellect

well I don't know about you but I do not want to be doing math while playing a game. The Best ES was the 1st one if was just pure combat no annoying stats or anything.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:37 am

RPG means role playing game. play the role. the numbers are unnecessary. it's all about immersion and story. All the "old school" elder scrolls fans who keep whining about stats need to wake up or shut up. the games are getting better and better.

You do realise that you are describing what makes an action/adventure game, not an rpg.... don't you????

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:15 am

While the environments in Vvardenfell were varied, it was almost unrealistically so. You'd shift terrain so fast it was almost like going from Swamp Land to Mountain Land to Ocean Coast Land.

Randomness: You'll hear people complain about this in OB and praise MW, but a lot of Morrowind is as random as OB. The real thing there is it's not limited to your immediate tier, so you'll find enemies and loot outside of your level - which can be good, or bad.

Did it have flaws? Yeah, every NPC read like a database, and missing in first person is just not any fun. Is it still worth playing? Oh, yeah.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:57 pm

wow people posting on an elder scrolls forum that don't like complexity or "numbers" in their RPGs. Wat.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:53 am

well I don't know about you but I do not want to be doing math while playing a game. The Best ES was the 1st one if was just pure combat no annoying stats or anything.

For most people, looking at numbers does not bring them to their knees.

Skyrim sounds like it's not for you. It has stats and skills and perks. Your head will probably just explode.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:53 am

Well actually, I preferred Morrowind, although the fact that when you hit something the enemy would "Magically" dodge the attack and that's what made me frustrated, but as I soon played it on PC, I found out that there was a mod that fixed that, also, the music Morrowind was FAR superior.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:26 am

wow people posting on an elder scrolls forum that don't like complexity or "numbers" in their RPGs. Wat.

Depends on the numbers. I could have done without the angling for +5 modifiers, personally. That's not really complexity, just encouraging unrealistic gameplay.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:40 pm

After Daggerfall, Morrowind didn't really live up to my expectations to be honest :confused:
I still liked it though :tes:

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:49 pm

@ OP - What are your 3, most fav games of all time?

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:36 pm

it seems like they took the best traits from morrowind and oblivion and mixed in some of there own stuff so i have a feeling it will have great story and great combat as well

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:02 am

well I don't know about you but I do not want to be doing math while playing a game. The Best ES was the 1st one if was just pure combat no annoying stats or anything.

so go play a friggin combat game then!!

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:56 pm

hmm

Skyrim still has Levels, Perk precentages, Costs, Durations, damage values, damage resistances, Skill points, H/M/S is made up of Numbers

you know like it always has been...since when did you need to do math for any TES game? if =ANY+ game encouraged math its the onset of Oblivion with tis efficient leveling crap and level scaling.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:53 pm

Ive put enough hours into oblivion to finish every quest in the game(including the DLC's). Oblivion = no more content
Ive put the same amount of time into Morrowind and i still think ive experienced 50% of the content.

Morrowind > Oblivion because of Content. Your opinion may differ -_-

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:55 am

so go play a friggin combat game then!!

well if they stuck with the original game and had all ES games stat fee it would be epic. I do not know why we have to have all these stats and numbers and such. it makes me feel like I am playing Dungeons and Dragons on an Xbox.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:37 pm

Morrowind was certainly 'better' but of course Oblivion had improvements in the graphics, combat etc departments.

Both are in my top 5 gaming experiences and Daggerfall is top 10.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:30 pm

Thats sort of the heart of the TES though. I will agree that micro managing every single detail can become tedious, but truth be told I did not find these issues to be a big problem with Morrowind and Oblivion. Besides, with no stats all the characters would be the same to some degree, and what fun is that?

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:29 pm

well if they stuck with the original game and had all ES games stat fee it would be epic. I do not know why we have to have all these stats and numbers and such. it makes me feel like I am playing Dungeons and Dragons on an Xbox.

Don't buy Skyrim. It will only make you feel like you are playing Dungeons and Dragons on an Xbox.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:07 pm

:facepalm: I really can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not...

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:49 pm

well if they stuck with the original game and had all ES games stat fee it would be epic. I do not know why we have to have all these stats and numbers and such. it makes me feel like I am playing Dungeons and Dragons on an Xbox.

you opinion, I don't agree the slightest

this is an rpg deal with it. And there are less numbers than it where in Morrowind and Oblivion this time. No attributes and classes. But I love skill numbers and making my character stronger and advance in lvl, also love perks. I don't feel sorry for all the casual gamers who wants everything to be just killing no lvl up. no stats. They can stick to their crap games, they are often bland and boring people anyway.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:15 pm

So the OP thinks when people refer to Morrowind, they liked it for its wall of text, crap graphics compared to today, Static environment and poor combat Mechanics.

You have no Idea why people like Morrowind then.

» Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:04 pm

Yeah I agree with the OP. Even when morrowind was new I didn't much care for it. And since I don't care to manage stats in an RPG, I'm even more psyched for Skyrim... People talk about complexity and I think that's nonsense. If you want to go and play around with numbers you should play a sports game or get a job with the IRS. RPG means role playing game. play the role. the numbers are unnecessary. it's all about immersion and story. All the "old school" elder scrolls fans who keep whining about stats need to wake up or shut up. the games are getting better and better.

Exactly video games should not have that much complexity. Go play a virtual algebra classroom game if you want all those numbers and stats. some people do not even understand what the elder scrolls is about.

:rofl: Best quote of the day. :facepalm:

And ironically, you just agreed with someone who just said he did not care about past Elder Scrolls game.