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". Huge World..... Dragons..... New Skills.... Better AI..... Bugs.... This is SKYRIM!....11-11-11.."

An advetisment, simplified for 10 year olds. Oh wait, "bugs" is in the advertisemant.... I think I'll buy it.

2 days later...

I read the forums daily.

I've never seen one individual claim that they expected all the bugs, then go on to complain about them anyway.

I do, however, see tons of people who knew that Bethesda has a history of buggy games being disappointed that the trend has continued with Skyrim. That's not what you're claiming though.

BGS games have traditionally been riddled with bugs, yes. Are you actually trying to dispute that? (Though FO:NV and Skyrim have been fine for me, so I think they're improving.)

But there's a simple and rational explanation as to why people continue to buy the game: BGS eventually fixes most of the bad bugs. If you play on PC, many more bugs get fixed on top of that by modders.

I agree that people who complain about the game being buggy are overexcited, if they've played BGS games before. We should all know better.

Shut up. This is the internet.

How clever.

Thanks for reminding me why I hate the internet and all the idiocy it breeds!

We must have read different threads, is the only explanation I can think of.

People keep claiming 11/11/11 was a rush date. For all we know the devs actually thought the game was polished enough to release 1, 2, 3 months before then. We have no idea if additional time would have meant the bugs everyone's complaining about to be fixed. Say every month they waited, 10% of the bugs would have been fixed. Say 90% of the bugs would have been fixed by 12/12/12 (unrealistic, but we're speaking in pure hypotheticals). Would you rather have Skyrim now and be able to play it *while* they fixed the bugs, or waited 1 year?

I think most of the people who would say "wait 1 additional year" are either trolling or simply kidding themselves.

Yes, you have every right to complain, just as I have every right to call you unrealistic and unreasonable.

yes, theyre very buggy, but i have this crazy idea that sequels should improve upon the original instead of worsening its problems.

skyrim is buggier than oblivion and morrowind. i know my experience with the game's bugs may be atypical, but never have i faced so many quest-related bugs as in skyrim. TBH i havent really complained about anything, and i dont expect the first patch of the game to fix anything but a few minor issues. but OP... no one who makes sensationalist threads about the bugginess of skyrim is also the kind of person who expected it to be buggy. im used to it because the TES i remember as buggy was a series of cheap little RPGs with humongous worlds far beyond the scope of sanity, but others have perfectly valid reasons for expecting a hyped-up AAA title to be relatively playable at launch. considering the problems im having, i can only imagine how bad the PS3 version must be.... :cold: .

but when its all said and done... why am i still getting that falling through the floor glitch? this was in daggerfall, and it is STILL in the series. that should tell you all you need to know about bethesda's playtesting...

If you're gonna call out the people who complain about the game having bugs I'm gonna call out the "Bethesda apologetics" who think any criticism on their precious game is a sin. You guys are ridiculous.

So those who are complaining about having bugs, knowing full well Bethesda has never released a polished game are the ones at fault for being optimistic? That is what your saying yes?

Where was any fault or blame mentioned? What I'm saying is if we buy something knowing it's going to have problems, we need to accept those problems when they arise.

We all know that Bethesda's games will have more bugs than normal and crash far more often than other games. I guess the optimism isn't that they won't be full of bugs for once but that the nature of the bugs in question will be more irritating than game-breaking: so that's why I still buy them. As long as they aren't game-breaking, I'll enjoy the game in general... but the irritating bugs will still irritate. It's a bit of a lottery though, especially with the couple of patches of randomness that've happened to people lately.

I can tolerate bugs at launch but when there have been two patches for game and the game has more bugs then when it launched is when I complain.

totally logical when one expecting improvement

Right... OP's amount of time on this forum has anything to do with the amount of time he has been a TES fan? Not at all. I didn't join - unless I did and forgot the handle - until this year, in yearning for Skyrim - that doesn't mean I wasn't waiting for the ones before it, too.

Skyrim isn't really buggy at all.
The few bugs in it are not game-breaking and I guess they'll be removed with further patches.

My trusty Windows XP 32 bit system must be god's preferred platform, because I get 60 FPS in all Bethesda games, and the only Bethesda game I've ever CTD'd or lagged in was Fallout 3. That's over 6000 hours of gameplay, excluding FO3, without a single crash to desktop. (1000-2000 hours if you don't count playtesting mods)

Wow, talk about having your own head up your [censored].

Just because you're a customer and have been on the forums for longer, your word is instantly more important than anyone who's been here for less time them you? Many people lurk, as I did, as guests and signed up recently to be able to comment and aid with the recent bugs.

"I know better than you, so sod off and let me handle this".

No, get the [censored] out.

My only complaint is the lack of scaling with spells. It's illogical. For the rest, I never encountered any bug.

agree, i feel sorry for people who cant play, but most people are over-dramatic

The internet called -- It say's it doesn't like you either. I guess that means you're one of us. Congradulations, Realist.

Lol!