Thought about Sotha Sil

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:35 pm

I see the Dyvith Fyrr Character and how he's portrayed and I say...thats How Sil seemed to be. I see two very similer characters and I start thinking about events and how each character deals with their events and I get to Sils Supposed death and I go....this is not right (not that he dies, or that he can be killed, but like if you add numbers up and you look at the total and you think...this doesnt seem right, you re-add and you get the actual number).


Because two different people can't have similar personalities, right? :rolleyes:

The fact of the matter is, Sil died and there's nothing more to it. He was killed (it is implied) shortly before YOU, the PC, step into the room he is in. Had we gotten there a bit sooner, perhaps we could have been able to save him...but then again, would he want to have been saved?

Seht sought after the unlimited possibilities of life and found them all. Perhaps he found too much, or what he found bothered him so. Whatever the case, he had no other reason to live....and so he ceased to by his own silent admission.

Isn't that more poetic than "OMG HE IZ STILL ALIVE I TELLZ U!"? Some things are better when they're looked at for what they are.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:48 pm

Because two different people can't have similar personalities, right? :rolleyes:

The fact of the matter is, Sil died and there's nothing more to it. He was killed (it is implied) shortly before YOU, the PC, step into the room he is in. Had we gotten there a bit sooner, perhaps we could have been able to save him...but then again, would he want to have been saved?

Seht sought after the unlimited possibilities of life and found them all. Perhaps he found too much, or what he found bothered him so. Whatever the case, he had no other reason to live....and so he ceased to by his own silent admission.

Isn't that more poetic than "OMG HE IZ STILL ALIVE I TELLZ U!"? Some things are better when they're looked at for what they are.


He died just before the Fabricant attack. I wouldn't call that shortly.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:42 pm

He died just before the Fabricant attack. I wouldn't call that shortly.


I thought it was implied by Almalexia that he got whacked shortly before the PC enters the room, or perhaps the Clockwork City...but then again thinking about it, that wouldn't make sense from a chronological standpoint of the Fabricant attacks.

It's been awhile since i've played Tribunal. Give me a break. :P
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:55 pm

He had to have died at some point between when Almalexia gets the mazed band and when the PC enters the room.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:48 pm

I belive that he didn't care anymore and just wanted to die OR that he weren't there as "the last living Dwemer".
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:17 am

He had to have died at some point between when Almalexia gets the mazed band and when the PC enters the room.


I agree with this. There must have been a reason why she wanted the Band. I mean, if she didn't need it then she could have summoned the Fabricants herself to Mournhold and teleported herself to the Clockwork City.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:43 pm

Actually what I do is see patterns. I see actions, events and see the irrational or things that dont make sense. Sotha Sil dying to me doesnt make sense. Im not in love with him. I dont care one whit for him or about him, or vivec, or amalaxia.

Sotha Sil's pattern of behaviour was one of inquisitiveness, curiousity and striving for knowledge. All of a sudden they make him out to be a "woe is me, I want to die" depressive. That doesnt fit. I see the Dyvith Fyrr Character and how he's portrayed and I say...thats How Sil seemed to be. I see two very similer characters and I start thinking about events and how each character deals with their events and I get to Sils Supposed death and I go....this is not right (not that he dies, or that he can be killed, but like if you add numbers up and you look at the total and you think...this doesnt seem right, you re-add and you get the actual number).

Edit: and that Daedra Pact bothers me too. What was his side of the bargin and why do the princes still (Appear) to adhere to it. I propose that Sil was feeding them heart power in a sort of Tributary system. Thats why he had to recharge so often. Thats why Azura was pushing the Neverine Agenda so much because Dagoth would have severed their supply line.

His death doesnt add up and I question it. Im not the first, I wont be the last. It seems staged. It smells of rotten fishysticks and dammit Im gonna find the answer!

Sotha Sil was not heard of for a very long time, so he may have changed. besides he left and made his clockwork city to get away from the mortals so why would he come back to help them? also if Sotha was trying to get an alternate identity, why would he chose a different look then act exactly the same? not a very smart thing for a wise god. and since the heart was destroyed, he should have lost his power and turned back into his normal slef

finally Azura is a REAL god, so she would have tipped you off in the right direction, as she would have been able to easily figure it out using her godly powers that Divyth was Sotha, as she also wanted the Tribunal to be gone
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:04 am

Sotha Sil's leglessness in that tapestry in interesting. You need them to traverse the Walking Ways.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:18 pm

I miss Sotha Sil...Poor Seht...

He was a grand wizard and a great friend...

- My Dumner Old man character,
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:05 pm

Maybe Sotha sil was just interested what death would be like? I mean he was god-like and highly intelligent, having done so much and learned so much he may have sunk into depressed attitude and got bored of the world the only thing that may have interested him was his death but either way he still didnt care if he would die or wouldnt die
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:03 pm

Maybe Sotha sil was just interested what death would be like? I mean he was god-like and highly intelligent, having done so much and learned so much he may have sunk into depressed attitude and got bored of the world the only thing that may have interested him was his death but either way he still didnt care if he would die or wouldnt die

Maybe he wasn't all there. Unless Almexia tied him up to all the wires I remember seeing himself totally rigged up in wires. Maybe he turned into a vegetable state after transfering his power into clockwork city? Maybe thats why he wasn't talking at all.
-but I really don't know.

Vivec retained his chimner half when he lost his immortality, correct? Well, Sotha Sil was also chimner and I remember Fyr as a completely pure Dumner.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:31 pm

Maybe he wasn't all there. Unless Almexia tied him up to all the wires I remember seeing himself totally rigged up in wires. Maybe he turned into a vegetable state after transfering his power into clockwork city? Maybe thats why he wasn't talking at all.
-but I really don't know.

Vivec retained his chimner half when he lost his immortality, correct? Well, Sotha Sil was also chimner and I remember Fyr as a completely pure Dumner.


Amalaxia is portrayed as fully chimer (appearence wise) Vivec Half and Half, Sotha Dark like the rest of the Dunmer. I realize I aint gonna convert any of you. I retain the right if at any future point in the series that sil turns up alive to say I told you so...until then...Ill be watching!
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:08 pm

Amalaxia is portrayed as fully chimer (appearence wise) Vivec Half and Half, Sotha Dark like the rest of the Dunmer. I realize I aint gonna convert any of you. I retain the right if at any future point in the series that sil turns up alive to say I told you so...until then...Ill be watching!


Sotha always looked like a Chimer to me... His grey flesh tone, I think, can be attributed to death pallor and the fact that he probably hasn't seen the sun for a millennium.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:52 pm

Sotha always looked like a Chimer to me... His grey flesh tone, I think, can be attributed to death pallor and the fact that he probably hasn't seen the sun for a millennium.

Neither has Fyr... :whistle:
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:42 pm

Neither has Fyr... :whistle:


But Fyr is a Dunmer in his apperence and I dont think their skin changes as other races as they were "cursed" to look like that.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:57 pm

Neither has Fyr... :whistle:


http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/return_fellow_scholar.shtml
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:56 pm

Sotha Sil's leglessness in that tapestry in interesting. You need them to traverse the Walking Ways.


Well he was a powerful mage..maybe he just..summoned some?

Was there ever a point in any piece of literature in which he was depicted as walking? I'm curious and don't remember so well...
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:17 pm

Sotha always looked like a Chimer to me... His grey flesh tone, I think, can be attributed to death pallor and the fact that he probably hasn't seen the sun for a millennium.


If you assume he does have Dunmer skin we have a patern. Almalexia, female, Chimer, Vivec, male and female, both Chi- and Dunmer, Sotha Sil, male, Dunmer.

And Dagoth Ur, male, Dunmer.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:40 pm

I don't know if that can be called a pattern definitively. After all, there are only four examples. The sample space is rather small, and the evidence is rather anecdotal. Still, it's nice to ponder.

Well he was a powerful mage..maybe he just..summoned some?


Maybe he was like http://www.rbcorner.com/images/megabyte.jpg, and kept different sets of legs for various occasions.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:02 pm

I've another depiction of http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2326194803_9961bfdf06_o.jpg. I beleive.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:03 am

Hovering half legless as usual..I detect a pattern.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:22 am

Sotha Sil doesn't strike me as someone who thought much of gravity.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:36 pm

gravity.


It's overused but...lies from a previous age. :P
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:46 pm

Well he was a powerful mage..maybe he just..summoned some?

Was there ever a point in any piece of literature in which he was depicted as walking? I'm curious and don't remember so well...


I dont think so.

I recall what he was doing when he said the famous quote; "If you must be stupid, at least be amusing"... He was teaching levitation.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:29 pm

I've another depiction of http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2326194803_9961bfdf06_o.jpg. I beleive.

You might want to take a look at a shrine to Nerevar some time.

Also that image is more similar to Vivec in the lotus position, sword in one hand buckler in the other.
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