well, from what i get out of skyrim's story so far, only the dovahkiin, the dragonborn... can kill the dragons, right?

...well, if you have to be dragonborn to be able to slay dragons, why was cyrus from redguard able to kill nafaalilargus?

is there some bit of lore about cyrus that im missing?

or is ANYONE able to kill dragons... thus making the whole meaning behind the dovahkiin in skyrim completely pointless?

im just confused here... if only dragonborns can kill dragons, then i think theres something about cyrus bethesa never told us.

anyone have any thoughts on this at all?

I think anyone can kill a dragon. There are more than one kind of dragon too.

But I think the Dragon Born is specifically prophecized to be the only one to kill Alduin Or maybe not kill, but stop his world eating rampage rather...

If it can bleed, it can die. The dragonborn is only special, in that the person has the soul of a dragon, whether granted from the gods or passed down by family.

Anyone can kill one, but the dragonborn is going to be a person of more power than your average citizen. The nerevarine, agent, hero of battlespire, eternal champion, champion of cyrodiil are all likely be able to slay one too, but it's the DB's story this time. There are stories of warriors battling dragons too. Also, Cyrus was the motha [censored]in' HoonDing!

1) Only a Dragonborn can kill a dragon, absorb its soul, and use the thu'um/speak Draconic
or
2) Cyrus was a Dragonborn

so anyone can kill dragons, then... well, that kinda makes them seem less threatening.

also, im not sure "if it can bleed, it can die" fits all that well in the elder scrolls, considering daedra are immortal, and only physical manifestations in the mortal world are able to be defeated, even then its only temporary.

funny thing about cyrus from what i noticed in redguard... despite him killing a dragon, which was beyond easy... he dies instantly in water, and lava... while all the other heroes, who go nameless and faceless, are capable of swimming and wading through lava.

i'd like to see lore cover these things up. :tongue:

Would you like us to make sure that gets on your tombstone?

I believe that anyone can "kill" a dragon, however, only a Dragonborn can devour it's soul and forever destroy the dragon. I may be wrong however.

There's a story about someone slaying a dragon in a book in Daggerfall as well, IIRC.

And the story behind the Fang artifact. That is, if you consider the flightless dragon of black marsh with lightening blood to be a dragon.

Oh yeah, the Fang of Hyenkhatblarhgwhatever, from Morrowind.
Clearly the creature it came from wasn't the same sort of dragon as the ones featured in Skyrim, though.

Yeah, but the story behind it made it seem like it was an even more horrific monster.

That dagger was the most powerful weapon in the game in terms of sheer damage output. It'd have to have come from a truly epic beast.

Perhaps they're all dragonborn? Perhaps the Elder Scrolls tell prophecies of the dragonborn? Some kinda link to Akatosh, considering he's the main man in Imperial religion?

Just playing with the lore and wild theories, really.

Edit: Wait, scratch that. Only a dragonborn could wear the amulet of kings, amiright? If so, that excludes the CoC, and probably the rest.

I thought one of the theories about Mankar Camoran was that he was able to wear the amulet because he was also Dragon Born?

So far, the affect of being Dovahkiin (having the soul of a dragon) just gants the person a natural talent for the Thu'um and the ability to absorb the sound of other dragons. throghout tamriel, at least during the third era and before, it was not uncommon for nords to have minor abilities with the thu'um, and there was even a school for its use in markarth.

And i believe that the dragon born probably will kill alduin; Aedra can die but they just go through the dreamsleeve and come back. Killing Alduin will cause a dragon break, perhaps explaining the (hopefully) multiple possible endings.

Being Dragonborn has nothing (well, little) to do with being able to use Thu'um or kill dragons. Anyone with enough skill can kill a dragon, and any Nord can use Thu'um. Dragonborn means you are akin to the divine, born with a mythical oversoul, destined to mantle Lorkhan and do great things. Like, say, starting a new world or saving the old from the jaws of Alduin.

Any with enough skill/perseverance/insanity can kill a Dragon; Dovakhiin is just the one that they fear.