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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:30 pm

It sounds a bit like english, but I can also hear the similarities between the "Dragon Tongue" and the words that are sung in the chants. Especially near the end, around 1:10 in the video. Whenever they chant "Dovahkiin", read "dovahkiin, fah hin, kogaan mu draal. " and tell me that it doesn't fit. The end sounds exactly like " Kogaan mu draal-YA!"
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:29 am

:facepalm:

Troll thread is trolly. We all thought thats what it said. Todd said that was the point, to make it sound english but it isn't. We were all fooled. Its in the dragon language. Why would we have to translate it if the language is fake?


Can you please post the source that says Todd stated that? I've never seen it.

Also I really don't think you understand the definition of what trolling means as this thread has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:50 pm

so what if it sounds like English the translation is totally different than what it is in English, just look at the song on youtube the lyrics are way different that if you listen to it with English in mind
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:55 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoSV1CERCr0
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:16 am

Can you please post the source that says Todd stated that? I've never seen it.

Also I really don't think you understand the definition of what trolling means as this thread has nothing to do with it whatsoever.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure I do. If you were really following Skyrim, you would know that when the trailer was released everyone thought the lyrics were in English. This has already been taken care of. Its in the Dragon language.

From the video above "..that we want to have sing this made up language"
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:26 pm

Nah, it's the dragon language. They sing fast, so it's tough to hear each of the words.
IF it's English, why did they lie about it? Or did they make a big mistake?
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:11 am

what swarley said
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:59 pm

Its the mind playing tricks on you. For instances

Eevn tohguh I'm tpynig lkie tihs, I bet msot of you can slitl raed it. It's bcesaue the mnid wroks in scuh a way.

The snouds of the wrod ocucr in scuh a way taht if you're lientsing for the wrods up terhe, you wlil haer tehm. Heveowr, tehy are rlaely sginnig in dagorn lnaaguge. Isn't the hmuan mnid azamnig?
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:01 am

Its the mind playing tricks on you. For instances

Eevn tohguh I'm tpynig lkie tihs, I bet msot of you can slitl raed it. It's bcesaue the mnid wroks in scuh a way.

The snouds of the wrod ocucr in scuh a way taht if you're lientsing for the wrods up terhe, you wlil haer tehm. Heveowr, tehy are rlaely sginnig in dagorn lnaaguge. Isn't the hmuan mnid azamnig?

ihneded
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:26 am

That translation is wrong because there is nothing to translate.. they are singing in English....

And yeah I agree it does sound more like Dovahkiin, the first two lines that is

You made me work. Are you glad then? :glare:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/01/06/translating-the-cover.aspx

Paragraph from the article reads:
"During the trailer, you probably noticed some mysterious language being sung. What you might not have known is that the words are in the tongue of the dragons, an entirely new language crafted by Bethesda for use in the upcoming game. This complete language plays an integral role in the story and gameplay of the upcoming epic, and introduces an intriguing new facet to the Elder Scrolls mythology.
Translate the text on GI's back cover and in the trailer, and you'll have the first clues to the storyline of the new game, including the name of Skyrim's chief villain.

We could just tell you about what the translation says, but what fun is that? Instead, you can now delve into the mysterious language and translate the ancient text yourself."


Then, they even proceed to give us clues that are to help us with the task at hand:

"Clues:
1. Dragon is not a 26-letter alphabet. Several vowel sounds translate from a single rune into two Roman alphabet letters.
2. You'll need to use the runes and the translation key in tandem to solve the puzzle.
3. Listen closely to the teaser trailer for additional clues."


And if you scroll down to the comments, you will find full translation:


"DOVahKiiN DOVahKiiN
NaaL OK ZIN LOS VahRiiN
Wah DeiN VOKUL MahFAERaaK ahST VaaL
ahRK FIN NOROK PaaL GRaaN
FOD NUST HON ZINDRO ZaaN
DOVahKiiN Fah HIN KOGaaN MU DRaaL

ahRK FIN KEL LOST PODRah
DO VED ViiNG KO FIN KRah
TOL FOD ZeyMah WIN KeiN MeyZ FUNDeiN
ALDUIN FeyN DO JUN
KRUZiiD VOKUN STaaDNAU
VOTH aaN BahLOK Wah DiiVON FIN LeiN


Dragonborn Dragonborn
By his honor is sworn
To keep evil forever at bay
And the fiercest foes rout
When they hear triumph’s shout
Dragonborn for your blessing we pray

And the scrolls have fortold
Of black wings in the cold
That when brothers wage war come unfurled
Alduin, bane of kings
Ancient shadow unbound
With a hunger to swallow the world"


And if that's not enough, you can find that in one of the other articles from that issue, the head sound guy/someone else (I forgot the name silly me) talks about how hard is it to write lyrics that rhyme both in good ol' english as in Dragon Language. There's also this other article dedicated to the process of creating the language itself, for which purpose even an internal wiki has been created.
Search 'em under the link folks.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:40 pm

Can you please post the source that says Todd stated that? I've never seen it.

Also I really don't think you understand the definition of what trolling means as this thread has nothing to do with it whatsoever.

Not to rain on your parade, but I can confirm that you’re just hearing what you want to hear. There’s no English singing happening—just the Dragon language lyrics from the GameInformer cover. I’ve listened to just the choir parts by themselves enough times to know for sure. ;)
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:33 am

I'm talking about this trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGMOMkACtn4


At 0:55 they start singing and I remember a developer stating somewhere that they are singing in dragon language but yeah.. they aren't

It's just English with a distortion effect, they are singing the following

Dovahkiin

Dovahkiin

For? the sake of Skyrim!

For our life, for our home

For Hrothgar's blood

For the Nords and for the Gods,

For the sole single son

Dovahkiin, our king, who'll dawn with fire!



Why did the dev say they were singing dragon language when they clearly aren't?


Just listened to it, it clearly sounds it you listen English, you can tell, he si right.

BUt if you are nto really focusing it sounds distorted. And then appers to eb Draconic.
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:35 am

Its the Dragon Language.
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:54 am

Not to rain on your parade, but I can confirm that you’re just hearing what you want to hear. There’s no English singing happening—just the Dragon language lyrics from the GameInformer cover. I’ve listened to just the choir parts by themselves enough times to know for sure. ;)

What this guy, a developer, mind you, said.

It's clearly the dragon-tongue:

Dovahkiin Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
Fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin Fah hin kogaan mu draal
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:57 am

Not to rain on your parade, but I can confirm that you’re just hearing what you want to hear. There’s no English singing happening—just the Dragon language lyrics from the GameInformer cover. I’ve listened to just the choir parts by themselves enough times to know for sure. ;)

well there you have it even one of there own says your wrong
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:36 am

What this guy, a developer, mind you, said.

It's clearly the dragon-tongue:

Dovahkiin Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
Fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin Fah hin kogaan mu draal


Dovahkiin Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal

This part sounds exactly like the english translation. The mahfaeaal part, is nothing like what it sounds like.

The last part it could go either way. It really does sound english.
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:18 am

Tbh it sounds like a Viking-ish english. Something a Viking would sing if he where to learn english. Sounds absolutely like there's a definite touch of old Norwegian.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:12 pm

I remember Todd or some other developers saying, in one of GI updates, that it was their intention to make a song and language so that, while it is sang in Dragon Language, it creates an illusion of something else being sang in English.
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:25 am

Dovahkiin Dovahkiin
Naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal

This part sounds exactly like the english translation. The mahfaeaal part, is nothing like what it sounds like.

The last part it could go either way. It really does sound english.

mahfaeraak ahst vaal

muh-far-ek-assed-vawl

It does sound like it in the trailer.
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:06 am

If those lyrics really are in English, they doesn't make any sense.

Also the song is in English the same way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:49 am

He just got developer'd
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:37 am

Just listened to it, it clearly sounds it you listen English, you can tell, he si right.

BUt if you are nto really focusing it sounds distorted. And then appers to eb Draconic.

oooh bet you wish you'd waited a few more minutes to post!
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:40 am

He just got developer'd


Yep. With strands of sizzling, arcing electricity surging from his fingertips the blue-skinned developer sat at his keyboard and unleashed his furious might into this thread; smiting it and leaving it to die a slow and painful death.

Killmoms for the win. :laugh:
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:09 am

You can do this with pretty much any choir-based song, really. My favorite is the “Saw Some Wookies” version of Carl Orff’s “Carmina Burana.”

http://wookiessong.ytmnd.com/
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Post » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:36 am

You can do this with pretty much any choir-based song, really. My favorite is the “Saw Some Wookies” version of Carl Orff’s “Carmina Burana.”

http://wookiessong.ytmnd.com/


Lol :D

The "worst" thing about this Skyrim theme though is that ... because we really thought we had the right lyrics before in English, now, despite we know they are in dragon-language, we still "want" to hear the lyrics as we did at first.
My head says one thing, but my ears say another thing...
But it could also be because it's an entirely different language and that we rather relate to something we know (English).

Heh.. just some psychological theories I have concerning this subject :P
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