Thoughts and speculations on the NCR

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:46 pm

(spoilers)

House wants NCR delt with, and has some sort of feud with the Legion. That aside, who knows? He wants business as usual, possible. No idea if it is more nefarious than than.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:09 pm

I see, I'm completed stumped as to who I will be siding with now. I'm leading towards House because I can't take the risk of following a corrupt course only to find later that I've been a pawn for wasteland destruction.
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Emily Martell
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:32 pm

I already know that I will go it alone and try take down the legion and NCR.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:49 pm

I already know that I will go it alone and try take down the legion and NCR.

Good idea, what about house though ?
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Claire
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:52 pm

Good idea, what about house though ?


Judging by the video footage I will go against him too.
Reminded me of calvert from point lookout..
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:16 pm

Judging by the video footage I will go against him too.
Reminded me of calvert from point lookout..

Yeah, me too - doubt our plan will be possible though :shrug:
They'll have to be at least one power group remaining, unless this can be the courier... :(
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:35 pm

it possibly goes like this:

NCR want control of the Strip and the Hoover Dam. Water/power obvious targets for their expansion plans.
Legion couldn't care less about the Strip or the Dam (being desert tribals) Maybe destroying it is their primary aim.
House wants neither the NCR to control the dam, or the tribals to destroy it. It fuels his business.

The war is between NCR and the Legion. House is just stuck in the middle. Maybe even a smaller player than he's been hyped up to be. You take out House and... who knows? Maybe you just get his business. Maybe he is at the root of something much deeper, and taking him out could unbalance the whole war. Maybe in the Legions favour. Maybe the NCRs. Maybe no-ones.

Play it by ear.. see how events unfold as you play it. I wouldn't go in with a "I'm siding with the NCR" or "I will fight for House" attitude - just wait and see.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:42 pm

Yeah, me too - doubt our plan will be possible though :shrug:
They'll have to be at least one power group remaining, unless this can be the courier... :(


I hear that you can use disguises to stir things up between factions.
If thats the case ,I will try to stir it up and sit back to see what happens..
im not going to be like rambo and kill whole armies..
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:32 am

Good idea, what about house though ?


I'm very curious to find out if he's only motivated by greed – by fleecing the people at his casinos – or whether he has any particular ideology. I could see him as a sort of libertarian Andrew Ryan type of character, but since that's been done already, it's a bit unlikely. He's certainly a man of questionable morality though, as he lets criminal organisations run his casinos.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:37 am

I don't think he's motivated by greed, personally. I mean, he wants the NCR out of the way, yet the majority of the customers in the strip (from what I've seen) are NCR troops spending their hard-earned leave and their hard-earned caps there. So it would be shooting himself in the wallet (assuming the whole House/NCR thing is true and not just a red-herring)
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:12 pm

''He lives in the Lucky 38 and is in charge of the securitrons that roam Vegas. At some point after emerging he won Vault 21 in a bet and has since converted it into a casino/hotel.''

An assault on the strip seems inevitable, I can see a quest with the opinion to overthrow house, maybe an extreme quest were the securitrons take your weapons upon entering a casino, maybe lucky 38 and then him activating them, leaving you vulnerable.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:10 am

Mr. House certainly seems like an individualist, and he's based on the eccentric industrialist Howard Hughes. Based on this, and by his looks, I think he'd fit nicely into an Ayn Rand novel. Perhaps he's a 'ruthless egoist' who's concerned with protecting his private property from a government which wants to nationalize it. I could easily see him burn New Vegas to the ground rather than handing it over to the NCR. If so, the character I'll make when supporting Mr. House might just be named Howard Roark.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:25 am

I was interested in the possibility of "reforming" the NCR by eliminating internal corruption and what not. I wonder if it will be possible to "reform" any of the 3 factions. Maybe you can convince the NCR politicians and leaders not to be corrupt and power-hungry OR convince Caesar to abolish slavery OR ... well... I do not know enough about Mr. House to say anything.

The chance to "reform" a faction would make for some great role-playing, I think.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:11 pm

Reformation would be definitely good thing to have in the game. Feed into my idealist nature quite nicely.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:22 pm

Come to think of it... House could end up being as little as Alistair Tenpenny.

1) Both own a stronghold
2) Both have an influential quest that nets a player home/suite

But to quote the wiki ''plays a big part in why New Vegas was not directly hit by the nuclear devastation.''
Maybe im over/under anolysing things
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:11 am

Come to think of it... House could end up being as little as Alistair Tenpenny.

1) Both own a stronghold
2) Both have an influential quest that nets a player home/suite

But to quote the wiki ''plays a big part in why New Vegas was not directly hit by the nuclear devastation.''
Maybe im over/under anolysing things


Nope, it has been confirmed that House has a very big role, if that's what you're saying. He has a series of main quests if you side with him.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:13 pm

Nope, it has been confirmed that House has a very big role, if that's what you're saying. He has a series of main quests if you side with him.

I see, however:

''Mr. House was born and lived before the Great War. Before the Great War commenced, he was somewhat of an expert in the field of cryogenic science and robotics. He supposedly froze himself and waited in stasis for a long amount of time (which is the reason he's over 200 years old) until he was woken up and emerged into a city that was falling apart. He is an elusive man, and also plays a big part in why New Vegas was not directly hit by the nuclear devastation.''

How could he have played a big part in why New Vegas was not directly hit by the nuclear devastation if he was frozen/inactive whilst pre and post the bombs dropping? hmm..
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:00 pm

How could he have played a big part in why New Vegas was not directly hit by the nuclear devastation if he was frozen/inactive whilst pre and post the bombs dropping? hmm..


If you're a skilled student of political and economic developments, it's relatively easy to predict events such as this. As an example, numerous Jews left Germany, and moved all their capital out of there, years before World War 2 started. Mr. House was likely able to see the road ahead, and took the necessary precautions, using his great wealth and cryogenic technology.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:06 pm

I see, however:

''Mr. House was born and lived before the Great War. Before the Great War commenced, he was somewhat of an expert in the field of cryogenic science and robotics. He supposedly froze himself and waited in stasis for a long amount of time (which is the reason he's over 200 years old) until he was woken up and emerged into a city that was falling apart. He is an elusive man, and also plays a big part in why New Vegas was not directly hit by the nuclear devastation.''

How could he have played a big part in why New Vegas was not directly hit by the nuclear devastation if he was frozen/inactive whilst pre and post the bombs dropping? hmm..


Well, it can be assumed that whatever he did to stop nukes from hitting Vegas directly happened before he froze himself. He most likely froze himself so he could reemerge when the nuclear Fallout and the initial rioting and looting started to cool down.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:46 pm

maybe he struck up a deal with the Chinese, he would cryogenically freeze a Chinese division in his under-Vegas vault, as long as they left him in charge and didn't bomb Vegas. or somesuch. They would then bust out, post war, and take over Hoover Dam for the imminent arrival of the rest of the Chinese forces. But something went wrong, and the cryogenic seals broke, leading to a whole division of Chinese Ghouls under Vegas, waiting to bust out at a moments notice. So the reason House keeps the Securitrons around is to stop people discovering his dark secret, and more specifically, from opening the door and letting the ghoulies out.

Or somesuch. Made more sense before I typed it out lol
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:34 pm

They're all communists in my perspective. My only option is to side with Ceasar who is bringing law and order to the wasteland, if your too weak to survive, oh well.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:42 pm

They're all communists in my perspective. My only option is to side with Ceasar who is bringing law and order to the wasteland, if your too weak to survive, oh well.

WOW! WHAT?

NCR are the ones bringing law and order, Caesar is just a powerless genocidal maniac who is in over his head.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:24 am

now now.. save it for the Mojave...
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:15 pm

now now.. save it for the Mojave...

Sorry Missus. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:28 am

lol! Since when does anyone pay attention to what I say...
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