I do like the theory that House made a deal with the Chinese.

:wink_smile:

however, they'll expel you from their cities for just having a beer. a republic not allowing a man his beer is not worth to being supported :nono:
so, there'll better be an option to influence their rigid drug policy, or else... :ninja:

No, they expel you from NCR's capitol. We don't know about other cities.

one of the basic ideas of a republic is enforcing equal law in every part of it

so wait, all those NCR troopers staggering around Vegas and throwing up ... they are now expelled from major NCR cities? Bet THAT is a morale breaker....

Moral breaker? Maybe.
Free armor? Definitely.

Where do you get your info? :facepalm: Vault City does not allow booze in their city not NCR. NCR just wants you to keep your weapons away. They don't check you for drugs and booze like Vault City.

What about the Bazaar outside the capitol that allows those things? Plus, isn't there a bar in the city anyway? Maybe they just don't want unruly drunk behavior and outside alcohol. Also, we don't know if individual cities still get to decide stuff for their own or not. It hasn't really been said whether or not the capitols strict laws apply to absolutely everywhere in their territory.

no, you're expelled when caught with alcohol in one of their cities. new vegas isn't part of the ncr yet...
same goes for drugs, gambling and prostitution. all of that is forbidden in the ncr, and all of that is being offered in new vegas. stark contrast, eh? :hubbahubba:

I would not be supprised to find some NCR troops or political types wanting to branch off and make their own state. In an interview it was said that NCR has become to big for it's own good. It's having trouble keeping things in check. With the Mojave NCR being cut off some might just want to become their own power.

That would be a good inner conflict quest... Perhaps the president might want you to kill a general who is trying to start a coup, and the general would offer his side of the story and ask you to assassinate the president for him?

Vault City has the problem with drugs and booze not NCR! at the time of FO2 Vault City was not apart of NCR. So Vault City was free to have those crazy rules. NCR is ok with booze they tax it.

NCR's capitol does not allow drunk people or druggies. They don't check you, but it says it on their bulletin board outside. Either way, I'm 99% certain it only applies to the capitol.

There is always an ulterior motive... and that goes for all the factions.

from their own prop

* No weapons may be openly carried inside the city limits.
* Persons found under the influence of alcohol or drugs will be arrested.
* Slavery, gambling, and prostitution are not permitted within city limits.
* Ignorance of the law is no excuse. A [censored] will get his/her butt kicked just as fast as a [censored].
* If you can’t live by these laws – then get the hell out cause we don’t want you here!


one could now discuss the actual meaning of "under the influence", but it could put you at the very least in a somehow unpredictable situation when trying to get home from the bar. doubt there will be some sort of taxi waiting :laugh:

I see. They don't want people puking in the streets like they do on the Strip. Still NCR does not kick you out for just having booze only Vault City would do that.

Arrested not kicked out. Arrested when drunk not just for having it.



Agreed we don't know what their idea is of "being under the influence" but I would bet they would just put you in the drunk tank and fine you not kick you out. If they kick you out for being drunk they would lose money. A growing republic needs is tax money and what better way to get cash then to tax vise like drinking and six?

thing is, we just don't have a clue about ncr's general view on new vegas. do they see it as a big economical factor they'd like to capitalize on, or is it more of a sin hole for them, needed to be closed down.
perhaps it's just more a strategical issue, and they just don't like a strong, independent city in the vicinity of such important factors as hoover dam and helios. maybe all of that, we just don't know right now.

That's a very good point, which I for some reason haven't given much thought to. In fact I can't think of a morally justifible reason for the NCR to take over New Vegas by force, unless New Vegas somehow poses a direct physical threat to the citizens of the NCR. Mr. House does have property rights over New Vegas, after all, and any talk about nationalizing private property makes me feel sick to my stomach.

On second thought however, Mr. House might be a war criminal who's sold out his country in exchange for New Vegas being protected from nuclear attacks. That would certainly justify the NCR in taking action against him.

BUMP

Chances are NCR does want to control New Vegas. I doubt they would try to take it by force at least not right away and not while cut off from the rest of NCR back west. They would not shut down New Vegas but they would try to clean it up. Who know's they might be forgiving with the drunks like Mr.House seems to be. New Vegas would be a huge cash cow for NCR.

Reasons why NCR has not gained control of the Strip: Mr.House has his own robot defenses. NCR is cut off for some reason. The bulk of the mojave force spent fighting the BoS and now Ceasers Legion.

Robot defences are easily dealt with, maybe NCR are in some sort of peace treaty with Mr.House.

NCR have House over a barrel. "You can continue your business as long as you give our troops free access and keep us supplied and ignore what we are doing. Failure to do so will result in a can of whoopass coming down on your head". So yeah he as securitrons, but one suspicious move on their part would bring the whole of the NCR into the city in force. Not even House can withstand that (however fragmented, undisciplined, drunken, those forces may be)

It's possible that NCR and Mr.House have a peace treaty or at least of non-aggression pact. From what I have seen Mr.House is not to trusting of NCR but then again who is? As for Robot Defences, he might also have tribals and well armed Mercs. There was something sometime back about Mr.House having "reprogrammed tribals."


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