Thrown into the Wastes.

Post » Tue May 04, 2010 3:02 am

The one thing bothers me - how would I accept a fact that I'm living in the game world? I'll be extremely curious to learn more about how it had become possible to teleport into fallout universe.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 7:29 pm

The one thing bothers me - how would I accept a fact that I'm living in the game world? I'll be extremely curious to learn more about how it had become possible to teleport into fallout universe.



It's a whimsical hypothetical...just go with it

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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 7:59 pm

I think Ray Mears would struggle to stay alive longer then a week & I'm assuming we enter the game world as we are in the real world......

3 things we might easily overlook:

Radiation. The wastelanders are hardened to harsh environemnts and that includes radiation. They have grown up from children surrounded by it so I would assume they are naturally resistant to some degree. You and me however live radiation free lifestyles, entering fallout world would be deadly from just a radioactive perspective. Our rad limits would be lower and I dare say the impact of radiation would be worse and more likley to affect to us. Perhaps we would become victims of ghoulification!

To kill or not to kill. I doubt people will be naturally evil enough to commit cold blooded murder to obtain items from day 1 (as time progresses I expect we will become less sensitive to killing and death and dead bodies and so on). Even if I had to kill someone in self defence I'm not sure I could go near the body let alone loot it.

Transferable skills from real world to game world. What do I know that would actually help a post atomic world? Game world tech levels are higher than what we have today (honestly US marines in the gulf do not wear power armor and do not use plasma riffles!). Would my skills be worth anything to anyone, I think there are a lot more qualified wastelanders to take jobs or start bsuinesses compared to real world you and me.

The only thing I think we all could do to survive without feeling too bad about ourselves would be to steal, to start with for survival but as we become desensitised to stealing and become better at it I suspect we would go on to stealing items not just for survival but to make caps.... From this position we could consider some of the career paths already mentioned.

I just hope I'm the first one to the chinese stealth armor! :P
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 3:31 pm

I'd join the Enclave purely out of the selfish desire to survive and be part of a strong community.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 6:02 pm

" You and me however live radiation free lifestyles,"

That's incorrect Ant, we live in a world where there's background radiation from the sun, and from all things on earth, natural background radiation, then you have X-Ray Radiation too.

However, we just wouldn't be used to the same amount of radiation the Wasteland is used to, however, the one thing that is not shown in game, is how people must use Rad-X's and Rad Away's alot, as otherwise the Radiation would just build up and ghoulify or kill them.

The chances of survival for most of us is slim, however, if your saying we wake up outside Vault 101 or in Springvale, its not that far to megaton, so you may just survive long enough to get there :P

and from there, you'd just try to make ends meet and survive.

The reason why the "Fallout" universe seems so technologically advanced is the alternate reality split in the 50's, mean't that the "science" went into military aspects, and that's how things are discovered, as more money is funnelled into it as the countries want "one up" above another country, especially in times of war, so whilst the US did Vaults, Power Armor, Vertibirds, the Chinese went a different route, and had "Stealth Fields", so skills you would bring from our world, albeit would not compete on the same scale, but would still be valuable, as our "technology" went more the "peaceful" route, so we have internet, proper TV's, entertainment systems, whilst they have Nuclear fission power and advanced armor and weaponry, they only had what looks like basic TV's, and Jukeboxes, so we'd bring a totally different perspective on things, and with all the saluaging that goes on, I suppose with someone like Moira's help, you'd at least be able to try and create things from our "world", to certain extent's at least.
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 7:12 am

It's a whimsical hypothetical...just go with it

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I suppose, Fallout universe is a sum of thoughtforms, one common eidos. If we believe that our thoughts are material and all our ideas, emotions, psyhical energies can create objects on the other levels of reality, existence of the Fallout world is explainable. The same principle magic uses.
But it's just a theory... And how can it be practicaly used? I mean gadgets for teleportation and exploration of such "subreal" worlds. Everything there is artificially created by peoples minds in our world. So all people in Fallout universe (FU) are not exactly real - they are just thoughtforms :mellow: Will I fight one thoughtforms to protect other ones? Do I love a man who has no soul or has unhuman nature? If FU was created in our world starting from the moment of the nuclear war, what can be said about all the previous history of the FU, ages before - were that people somehow real, did they existed or the FU appeared from nowhere??

Or maybe I just died and got into Paradise? It is said in Gospel, that "God has many abodes"(approximate quotation). Isn't it ok for a gamer to get into favorite game? Will I meet there other gamers I know hrom the previous life or it's my "personal" world?

Situation raises many philosophical issues.................
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 4:57 pm

It amazes me how many people would that easily go up to a person and shoot them and rob them. I don't know about you but if I was actually there and it was realistic I wouldn't have the heart to just walk up and kill and unarmed women and steal her money but maybe that's just me. You guys must be doing that all the time. :nuke:

Agreed. It really takes a whole lot of a person to kill another one, and if a murder takes place the odds are that the murderer will never recover from the shock.
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 5:00 am

" You and me however live radiation free lifestyles,"

That's incorrect Ant, we live in a world where there's background radiation from the sun, and from all things on earth, natural background radiation, then you have X-Ray Radiation too.

However, we just wouldn't be used to the same amount of radiation the Wasteland is used to, however, the one thing that is not shown in game, is how people must use Rad-X's and Rad Away's alot, as otherwise the Radiation would just build up and ghoulify or kill them.

The chances of survival for most of us is slim, however, if your saying we wake up outside Vault 101 or in Springvale, its not that far to megaton, so you may just survive long enough to get there :P

and from there, you'd just try to make ends meet and survive.

The reason why the "Fallout" universe seems so technologically advanced is the alternate reality split in the 50's, mean't that the "science" went into military aspects, and that's how things are discovered, as more money is funnelled into it as the countries want "one up" above another country, especially in times of war, so whilst the US did Vaults, Power Armor, Vertibirds, the Chinese went a different route, and had "Stealth Fields", so skills you would bring from our world, albeit would not compete on the same scale, but would still be valuable, as our "technology" went more the "peaceful" route, so we have internet, proper TV's, entertainment systems, whilst they have Nuclear fission power and advanced armor and weaponry, they only had what looks like basic TV's, and Jukeboxes, so we'd bring a totally different perspective on things, and with all the saluaging that goes on, I suppose with someone like Moira's help, you'd at least be able to try and create things from our "world", to certain extent's at least.



ok ok the ghoulification comment was a bit too much :)

Interesting & viable perspective on rads and tech sparkles, I hope we never find out what would really happen!
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 5:17 am

I suppose, Fallout universe is a sum of thoughtforms, one common eidos. If we believe that our thoughts are material and all our ideas, emotions, psyhical energies can create objects on the other levels of reality, existence of the Fallout world is explainable. The same principle magic uses.
But it's just a theory... And how can it be practicaly used? I mean gadgets for teleportation and exploration of such "subreal" worlds. Everything there is artificially created by peoples minds in our world. So all people in Fallout universe (FU) are not exactly real - they are just thoughtforms :mellow: Will I fight one thoughtforms to protect other ones? Do I love a man who has no soul or has unhuman nature? If FU was created in our world starting from the moment of the nuclear war, what can be said about all the previous history of the FU, ages before - were that people somehow real, did they existed or the FU appeared from nowhere??

Or maybe I just died and got into Paradise? It is said in Gospel, that "God has many abodes"(approximate quotation). Isn't it ok for a gamer to get into favorite game? Will I meet there other gamers I know hrom the previous life or it's my "personal" world?

Situation raises many philosophical issues.................



Wow Korella...you've taken this topic onto a completely different philosophical tangent lol. This thread was just a diversion to question how people would interact with the FU as it's known to us....just for kicks. You're going deep into the metaphysical aspects of how, what and why. Definitely interesting thoughts though.

Speaking of which.....I can't wait till Fallout XVIII comes out....you know the one where we'll actually be able to jack into the Fallout universe and experience this all firsthand.....just don't want to know what a CTD would be like in that situation....probably won't be smart to mod that game.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 9:28 pm

A bullet to the head. I couldn't exist in a world like that.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 5:32 pm

I don't think that most of the folks saying they'd just go kill an innocent person and take their stuff would actually be able to do it. It's not easy to mentally take that step.


I agree none of these people here would kill Silver or any other innocent if they were real living breathing humans, unless they were Godless, completely devoid of morals, and would kill someone on the street today for 400 dollars. It's not a situation of life and death; you could easily survive and make money without killing Silver -heck you could just ask her for caps saying you're Moriarty's thug. I believe in Karma/God so I would only be able to kill someone who was a threat to myself or others; considering I eventually crawled out of the dumpster of course.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 9:06 pm

Alright, this is purely theoretical, but..
Say you all of a sudden woke up one day, and instead of being in your bed, you wake up on the ground right outside the gate to Vault 101.
All you have is the clothes on your back (most probably PJs), a Pip-Boy on your wrist, obviously the knowledge you've gained from playtime, and lets throw in a 10mm Pistol with 2 clips.
Now, you don't have to find your father or anything, there are no quests. Just picture yourself to be there, Its hot, barren, dangerous, and unfamiliar.
You stand up, and take a good look of your surroundings. What would you do from this point onwards?

Edit: Suicide is frowned upon ( But if that really is what you would do, Im not gonna stop you. :P ).. Oh and, don't hesitate to incorporate any skills you might have in real life.

Eg: Good at Science? Head over to Rivet City, and ask Doctor Li to be your mentor.
Enjoy working as a mechanic? Tag along with Tinker Joe, to wherever he goes.
Stuff like that.

I would go to Megaton, try to make as many close friends as possible, then try to convince some people to travel to rivet city with me, then we would live happily ever after !
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 3:30 am

Go to megaton, offer my services to Lucas Simms for a place to stay and live.
Tell him that Moriarty has no idea who I am and go undercover in Moriarty's Saloon.
After Working with Moriarty for a while and after gaining his trust tell him that I heard that Simms was going to get some of the Megatonians and kill Moriarty because they think he's evil
Then tell Simms that he should get some of the Megatonians to attack Moriarty because he's been planning with some raiders to take over Megaton
Watch Simms vs Moriarty in the saloon then kill the victor, then I would shoot myself in the arm and tell the Megatonians that Moriarty killed Simms and I killed Moriarty but I got wounded in the process
Take over Megaton as the sheriff and make it into a thriving city and give Gob Moriarty's Saloon
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 11:44 pm

Screw the 10mm, I would go hide in the hollowed-out rock and kill myself with the sniper. :celebration:
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 9:44 pm

I'd get up, find my way over to Megaton, probably take the atomic bomb contract (I love to tinker with things in real life, and I'm pretty smart) collect my caps and make a life for myself. Maybe running with the caravans living life as a nomad, or settle down in Megaton or Rivet City, or possible start my own town at some bunker, maybe turn Super Duper Mart into a thriving trading outpost. Then, when if 101 calls me back because of a problem I'd simply put a bullet in each one of their heads, except for Gomez, he was a nice fella'. More than likely, I'll be a mechanic or tinker with guns or be a mercenary.

Okay I've got it (sit back and relax):I will first make my way to Megaton, I will complete Lucas Simms's contract and collect my hefty amount of caps and live on that for awhile in my new house, once I run low on money I'll become a mercenary gaurd for the Megaton, when I retire (age 40 or so) ill work a Moira's for awhile tinker with weapons for her, then I'll venture to Super Duper Mart to discover it's filled with supplies, I'll grab a couple of my mercenary friends and clear out the raiders and start a settlement that starts a traders outpost and turns into a thriving community. I will have a large shack on top of of the Mart, it will be fortified with sand bags on the outer edges of the building with miniguns set up around it. Then, I will grow old and die a happy man!

Haha all done!
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 1:11 am

I'd go to Megaton and stay there. Sure it might be better to live in Rivet City, but if everything is the same as it is in the game there's no way I'm going to risk my life walking that far. Eventually I'd gather up the balls to travel with a trader to Rivet City, where I shall remain.
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 5:23 am

I'd go to Megaton and stay there. Sure it might be better to live in Rivet City, but if everything is the same as it is in the game there's no way I'm going to risk my life walking that far. Eventually I'd gather up the balls to travel with a trader to Rivet City, where I shall remain.


Edit: Ok first i would probably have a massive breakdown at that tunnel entrance and the wasteland, sit there for a few hours and gather myself. Muster up the courage to run for megaton and thank god i put 200 hours into learning about the Capital Wasteland.

I agree with your post though, i would work in megaton for a while making enough caps to get a decent hunting rifle and supplies and make my way there when the next caravan comes through. I must say it would probably be a terrifying journey. Raiders, metros, ghouls, super mutants are some of the things you will most likely be encountering. I find it best to follow the river in DC there are some wandering raiders, and raider hideout at that bridge near the BoS outpost but it is a "safe" trip for the most part.

It would be just crap living in a place like that though. I would want to get out of DC actually and head inland or just find something that is less of a burned out hole in the ground.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 9:19 pm

[censored], I'd go grab Charon first, then hustle up some damn-good weapons.

But realistically?

I'd prolly lose my mind for a few minutes, then recollect, and try to stray out carefully, give a lil' prayer to God and hope that no Raiders will raid my spot, nor Super Mutants putting my limbs in to a bloody stew. I'd try heading for that wee-little broken structure erect in the sky without being savagely attacked by the mutated wildlife, and find a way around the irradiated mote surrounding DC. If I would be overrun by Super Mutants, Raiders, or...Radscorpions, I'd run for the hills without having to waste bullets.

And if I survive without having my limbs shot, or die of a poisoning, I'd get to the Museum of Natural History, hide with the Ghoulies for a lil' while, kill Greta and get Chare's contract, then head on out with a little more confidence and a stronger gun, and scrounge for anything to survive.

More or less...or just die XD
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 5:36 am

You're going deep into the metaphysical aspects of how, what and why.

But that's exactly what I'd feel if I got into given situation. My first idea will be "isn't it a hallucination?" Even if everything will be ok and I won't be eaten by supermutants, and will manage to join Enclave, and BoS will be defeated and the future will seem to be optimistic, I'll start pestering local scientists with my questions.

I can't wait till Fallout XVIII comes out....you know the one where we'll actually be able to jack into the Fallout universe and experience this all firsthand.....just don't want to know what a CTD would be like in that situation....probably won't be smart to mod that game.

This is my dream too) Hope there won't be upsetting restrictions, so no mods will be needed.
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 12:35 am

But that's exactly what I'd feel if I got into given situation. My first idea will be "isn't it a hallucination?" Even if everything will be ok and I won't be eaten by supermutants, and will manage to join Enclave, and BoS will be defeated and the future will seem to be optimistic.


You're right, first thing most people would do is doubt the fact that it's even real.

Im pretty sure Enclave won't take you in though, they'll think you're contamintated and no longer human or something.
The only reason they took Anna Holt and the other scientist dude in, is because they were useful. Now granted that you may
be somewhat of use, with your in-game experience, they won't have a reason to trust you. But, say they did eventually trust you
because you have a high Speech skill, what is the guarantee they won't kill you when they're done?

They're Video Game baddies, and that's how they roll. Even if you manage to survive them, who's gonna stop "Lone Wanderer"?
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 6:14 pm

Im pretty sure Enclave won't take you in though, they'll think you're contamintated and no longer human or something.

In game they seemed to have special tests proving the "purity" of a human, no? And I'm a pure human as I was born in non-radioactive environment.

they won't have a reason to trust you

In my first reply I explained how I plan to convince them in my use. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1091712-thrown-into-the-wastes/page__view__findpost__p__15934732
They're Video Game baddies, and that's how they roll. Even if you manage to survive them, who's gonna stop "Lone Wanderer"?

The image of "baddies" is imposed by game makers. To stop Lone Wanderer - that will be my aim.
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 6:51 am

I would requisition plenty of weapons, ammo, armor, and people who can use them. Then I would make a living as a mercenary leader. Think Blackwater, only with ethics.
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 12:26 am

First I'd Go To Megaton, Do Some Odd Jobs Around town For A While, Make Enough Caps For Say... An Assault Rifle And Some Spare Clips, And Enough For An Bodyguard, I'd Make My Way Too Big town With the help of my bodyguard, then loot and pillage the entire village, as they have close too no defenses, head back to megaton, and pawn of the stuff I Got. At this point i probably have around maybe 1500 caps. I'd go looting abandoned buildings, and killing wastelanders as I see fit, to earn a living. After i have enough money, i would go back to megaton, and Discretely gather a small gang, maybe 5-6 people. I'd Use my money to arm them and buy them armor, We would then travel to Rivet City, and take out the outside guard, then quickly move in and secure the market. loot the stalls and steal all we can, killing civilians as i see fit. We would make a run with all the stuff we had. I estimate from all the store inventories, we have roughly 10k more caps.

I would then proceed to start a small settlement for my gang and I, We would go back over to big town, and set up appropriate defenses we would buy from various vendors, such as turrets or turrets.
we would pillage and loot the surrounding area, letting others join out cause, letting them become rich and infamous. we would then have a very big organization, far too big for big town. Now that we are more than 50 people strong, with more than 100,000 caps between us all, we would go and invade rivet city. killing anyone who would not surrender and leave. We would take over the ship and use it as or HQ, we would buy computers and other electronics from select people, and fortify our new HQ with security, robots, and turrets.

At this point... I've got nothing left to live for, i've taken over a majority of the wasteland, i've seen so much bloodshed just trying to make a life for myself. I would leave in the middle of the night, leave a holodisk for my second in command, Giving him my last orders, and for him too take over once i'm gone... I Make my way to the town i've known almost all my fallout life, Megaton, the people that once treated me as one of their own, have shunned me for trying to make my own life, jealous at how successful I Had become. I'd walk into the town, gleaming in my one of a kind power armour, blood red paint streaks cover it, the eye's glow a vibrant red, Bandoleers and grenade belts hanging from it, I'd walk into the town using sure force, blowing apart anyone who stood in my way... I'd Approach the bomb... look over it... and remember the keep sake i'd taken from the town... as i left, i saw simm's shoot and kill and man in a white suit and brown hat... I'd taken from his corpse an item of sorts, as a keep sake, I Had only recently realized what it was... I took it out of the pouch on the side of my armor, placed in on the side of the bomb and set the timer for 30 minutes. I walked away back up the hill... bullets flying... "Pinging" off my armor as though they were nothing.

But... Instead of leaving...i turned left... made my way towards simm's house... I Broke down the door, I Saw his Son... The fear in his eyes... He ran out the door... I Didnt try to stop him... after all what person in his right mind... would harm a child... i made my way over too the Trap Door In the ceiling... and heard footsteps behind me coming from outside... I Climbed up the trap door, and closed it behind me, I Blocked it with a board... Then i threw my helmet over the side of the railing...and punched the wall... i couldnt believe what i'd done... all the people i've killed... all the wrong doings i've committed... I slowly reached for my pistol... a drew it and raised it towards my head... just then the trap door broke open... and they climbed up... just into time too see what i was about too do...

*Bang*

Meh... Not Bad, Took Me 6 Minutes to Write... The ending Kind Of turned Into A Story Of Sorts... But I'm Fine How It Turned Out
And Yes... Before anyone asks, Yes... That Is Probably What I Would do, Except For The Last Two Paragraphs, I Put Them In Too Make It Touching =P
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 7:17 pm

Get Myself A Bible And a trench coat and a Pair of sunglasses And start making the world a better place with that 10mm. :gun:
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 3:24 am

But that's exactly what I'd feel if I got into given situation. My first idea will be "isn't it a hallucination?" Even if everything will be ok and I won't be eaten by supermutants, and will manage to join Enclave, and BoS will be defeated and the future will seem to be optimistic, I'll start pestering local scientists with my questions.



Of course the first instinct would be to question what is going on....hallucination?....insanity?....powerful dream?

But after a while, regardless of what the truth was, you'd have to accept it as your reality.
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