It's time to make a statement Bethesda...

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:33 pm

I'll keep this short and to the point. The literal majority of customer comments now revolve on how a series of patches have broken the game.


...majority, or the forum posters? - the majority are too busy playing Skyrim to post anything ;)
User avatar
Annika Marziniak
 
Posts: 3416
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:22 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:05 pm

Bethesda going out of its way to fix something for free, ends up screwing things up, and all it gets is venomous spite and constant complaining from users, despite it only being out for one day.

Classy.

Seriously? You think they should sell their "patches" to us? Or perhaps not even make them at all?

Do you realize just how absurd that is? The very least they could do is acknowledge the problem. The very least.
User avatar
Bloomer
 
Posts: 3435
Joined: Sun May 27, 2007 9:23 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:16 pm

Bethesda going out of its way to fix something for free, ends up screwing things up, and all it gets is venomous spite and constant complaining from users, despite it only being out for one day.

Classy.

With current gaming standards, I would say the consumers who purchased this game are owed a resolution to some of these issues. They are not a charity. They are a profitable gaming company.
User avatar
bimsy
 
Posts: 3541
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:04 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:39 am

“We’ll start hitting on everything after vacation,” Howard said. “We’ll take a break [after the game launches], see what consumers think of the game, then see which direction we want to go.”

Oh, that explains a lot.


/Paying to Beta - Classic response
User avatar
Phillip Hamilton
 
Posts: 3457
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:07 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:22 am

...majority, or the forum posters? - the majority are too busy playing Skyrim to post anything ;)


Don't bother, the complainers are convinced that anything that was changed is terrible, and that everybody has crippling bugs.
User avatar
Chris Jones
 
Posts: 3435
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 3:11 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:58 pm

I dont think people are denying that there are problems...it's just the incessant [censored] whining flooding the forums...it gets old. Trust me, they know about the issues by now. They have to eat and sleep and poo just like us.


I think what you are missing here in your anolysis is that it is by any means a foregone conclusion that they will address some of these bugs. Bethesda in fact has a history of leaving some fairly serious bugs in their games.

This is why the silence is so disturbing. It really is the precursor to not addressing a particular bug or problem. Once they make some statement about it, there is some actual degree of accountability. Someone could point to their own admission of an issue and say "when was this fixed?"
User avatar
joseluis perez
 
Posts: 3507
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:51 am

Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:11 am

Seriously? You think they should sell their "patches" to us? Or perhaps not even make them at all?

Do you realize just how absurd that is? The very least they could do is acknowledge the problem. The very least.

Why are you putting words in my mouth.

Not once did I say that Bethesda should sell patches. Bethesda is fixing the game with their own money and time, and the very least you could do is show some degree of patience with them while they sort out this issue, instead of ranting about an issue that's been repeated to death on these forums today.

Sigh. First world problems.
User avatar
Cat Haines
 
Posts: 3385
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:27 am

Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:06 am

Don't bother, the complainers are convinced that anything that was changed is terrible, and that everybody has crippling bugs.

If you are not complaining, then why are you not playing the game? Hmmm
User avatar
mimi_lys
 
Posts: 3514
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:17 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:11 pm

Don't bother, the complainers are convinced that anything that was changed is terrible, and that everybody has crippling bugs.

.. and the people who are defending Bethesda are convinced Todd Howard and them can do no wrong and are working diligently to fix the small amount of problems the minority of us are dealing with.

Yeah, I'd rather be an [censored] and see results than a blind, ignorant follower.
User avatar
brian adkins
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:51 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:39 am

Bethesda is awesome cause of fallout and ES

Cheers
User avatar
C.L.U.T.C.H
 
Posts: 3385
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:23 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:35 pm

Is there an ignore button on this forum?
User avatar
Da Missz
 
Posts: 3438
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:42 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:49 pm

I understood it perfectly. They probably wont fix everything....but with the giant amount of whining I'm sure some things will get worked on. I personally hope all your complaints get fixed dudes....I really do...but it seems like there are a bunch of sodding lunatics on here throwing [censored] at the wall trying to make bethesda look bad for such a small thing, and to boot alot of assumptions (like the fact that they dont care). They woulndt have made a [censored] video game for us if they didnt care.
User avatar
Taylor Tifany
 
Posts: 3555
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:22 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:38 pm

Can you explain then, that why I, and many, many, many, many others can't do the quest Blood on the ice?

Can you explain then, why after you escape the mine in markarth, The guards may or may not still be stuck in the shrine of talos, causing them to go into a never ending loop because they can't send you back to a jail, Because said jail is a one time, non-repeatable quest? Can you explain to me how I am Thane of markarth, have a fully decked out dwelling, tons of nice gear stored and because of aforementioned bug...I can no longer even go near that area..Unless I want to cheat?

Those are not game-breaking... Do you know what game-breaking is? These PS3 players that are getting un-tolerably low FPS problems, they can consider it "game-breaking" because it prevents them from playing the game (for the most part).

For example, my copy of Dragon Age 2 was very, very bugged. I could not complete my preferred romance option, and some quests were glitched. I could still play the game to its full (mostly) extent, so it wasn't game-breaking.

I'm not saying that those problems are OKAY to have, but claiming that, because of them, the game is broken, is just ridiculous.


If you are not complaining, then why are you not playing the game? Hmmm

Are you serious? If someone enjoys the game they should be doing nothing but playing it 24/7? What?
User avatar
Eve(G)
 
Posts: 3546
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:45 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:36 pm

I think what you are missing here in your anolysis is that it is by any means a foregone conclusion that they will address some of these bugs. Bethesda in fact has a history of leaving some fairly serious bugs in their games.


I think what you are missing is that you had this knowledge before buying the game but still chose to buy it, which in effect removes your logical right to complain about it to no end. Lest you intentionally want to look dumb, in which case dont let me stop you.
User avatar
Robert DeLarosa
 
Posts: 3415
Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:43 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:16 pm

Today has to be the funniest day on this forum in a long time. You're like politicians condemning the Taliban or something with these complaint threads.

Yeah it was funny at first, now it's just sad.
User avatar
x a million...
 
Posts: 3464
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:59 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:55 am

Why are you putting words in my mouth.

Not once did I say that Bethesda should sell patches. Bethesda is fixing the game with their own money and time, and the very least you could do is show some degree of patience with them while they sort out this issue, instead of ranting about an issue that's been repeated to death on these forums today.

Sigh. First world problems.


True enough. But if they'd spent a little more money and time *before* releasing the game, they wouldn't have so much negative feedback from the public.

And before you go touting all the votes for 'I would' in the would you buy another Bethesda game post, add up all the rest and realize that those are the majority saying that the game needed more work before it was released.
User avatar
Alex Blacke
 
Posts: 3460
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:46 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:13 pm

I think what you are missing is that you had this knowledge before buying the game but still chose to buy it, which in effect removes your logical right to complain about it to no end. Lest you intentionally want to look dumb, in which case dont let me stop you.


Exactly...nobody put a gun to your heads and made you buy Skyrim.
User avatar
Jade Payton
 
Posts: 3417
Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:01 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:15 am

Why are you putting words in my mouth.

Where would you rather I put them?

Bethesda is fixing the game with their own money and time

That's because it's their responsibility to their consumers. They have that money because we're buying their products. If their products aren't working as they should, they're obligated to fix them.

Automakers can't sell cars that don't work properly. Why would you expect something different of video game developers?
User avatar
Greg Cavaliere
 
Posts: 3514
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:31 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:33 pm

I understood it perfectly. They probably wont fix everything....but with the giant amount of whining I'm sure some things will get worked on. I personally hope all your complaints get fixed dudes....I really do...but it seems like there are a bunch of sodding lunatics on here throwing [censored] at the wall trying to make bethesda look bad for such a small thing, and to boot alot of assumptions (like the fact that they dont care). They woulndt have made a [censored] video game for us if they didnt care.


You see, many of us have been thru this since the very beginning. and no, not the beginning of TES:Skyrim. We aren't making Beth look bad in this stage of it's life, They, Themselves are.
User avatar
Sarah Kim
 
Posts: 3407
Joined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:24 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:11 pm

Don't bother, the complainers are convinced that anything that was changed is terrible, and that everybody has crippling bugs.


I'll be playing if I could, but yea my game just froze for the 3rd time in a hour. I also had to delete my 12MB save because the 4+ minute loading times were starting to spread to my other characters.
Yup no bugs at all...oh wait...
User avatar
J.P loves
 
Posts: 3487
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:03 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:57 pm

If you are not complaining, then why are you not playing the game? Hmmm


...because I've been playing skyrim like 6 hours straight, and gonna go to bed now. So thought I'd poke my head in the forum and see if theres any important news like CS or new mods... not everyone uses the forum as a soapbox
User avatar
Mark Hepworth
 
Posts: 3490
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:51 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:10 pm

True enough. But if they'd spent a little more money and time *before* releasing the game, they wouldn't have so much negative feedback from the public.

And before you go touting all the votes for 'I would' in the would you buy another Bethesda game post, add up all the rest and realize that those are the majority saying that the game needed more work before it was released.

Yeah, I won't argue that. I'm sure Bethesda could have spent more time fixing things before releasing it, and that would have saved all this from happening. But the fact that they're trying to fix a lot of bugs (and have fixed the lag bug for PS3) shows that they aren't ignoring users' complaints. I remember how buggy Bethesda left Oblivion. To be honest, it seems like they're trying harder and putting more effort this time around.
User avatar
Victoria Bartel
 
Posts: 3325
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:20 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:24 pm

Seems "they" have been investigating since yesterday, just haven't bothered to tell everybody:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1295737-game-no-longer-recognizes-my-magic-resistance-after-patch/page__st__20__p__19526329#entry19526329

I still think they could/should/better be making an official statement to clear the air and be upfront to their customers.
User avatar
GLOW...
 
Posts: 3472
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:40 am

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:30 am

Don't bother, the complainers are convinced that anything that was changed is terrible, and that everybody has crippling bugs.


Of course, everyone everywhere. We all can no longer play our game. Are you playing now? No, I didn't think so, your reading a forum post, that means your game is BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR.

What, you like this game? Did you understand Broken beyond repair? Are you arguing? Your an idiot for arguing.

You know what? I think the creation kit wont come out until after the 23rd DLC, strictly because Todd Howard hates PC gamers now. Modders? God those guys are tools. Todd and crew are purposely holding back the the tools to allow us to fix the game? You know why? Sushi. They want to pay for Sushi, so what they will do is SELL The fixes to the game. Why? Their bond villains every one of them.

Also, while PC gamers think that the issue is with them, it's really ONLY a discrimination against PS3 gamers.

Honestly, Bethesda really just hates all gamers everywhere. They must be paying game reviewers off too. It's a massive conspiracy... I blame the free masons. I'll ask the one I work with... but you know what? He'll deny it, like they always do...

I need to make another hat, where is the aluminum foil?
User avatar
Emzy Baby!
 
Posts: 3416
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:02 pm

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:40 am

If you are not complaining, then why are you not playing the game? Hmmm

Because I am?

I browse the forums during loading screens. I'm playing the game while I'm talking, albeit with the pause menu up so a Draugr doesn't eat me.

.. and the people who are defending Bethesda are convinced Todd Howard and them can do no wrong and are working diligently to fix the small amount of problems the minority of us are dealing with.

Yeah, I'd rather be an [censored] and see results than a blind, ignorant follower.

Did I ever say that?

Personally, I've never run into ANY bugs or crashes, and only a few graphical glitches. My friends say the same.

If thinking that a game I didn't get over-hyped for, and expected bugs from, and then LOVING it more than Morrowind is a good thing, then I guess I'm a 'blind, ignorant follower'.
User avatar
Je suis
 
Posts: 3350
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:44 pm

PreviousNext

Return to V - Skyrim