...majority, or the forum posters? - the majority are too busy playing Skyrim to post anything

Seriously? You think they should sell their "patches" to us? Or perhaps not even make them at all?

Do you realize just how absurd that is? The very least they could do is acknowledge the problem. The very least.

With current gaming standards, I would say the consumers who purchased this game are owed a resolution to some of these issues. They are not a charity. They are a profitable gaming company.

/Paying to Beta - Classic response

Don't bother, the complainers are convinced that anything that was changed is terrible, and that everybody has crippling bugs.

I think what you are missing here in your anolysis is that it is by any means a foregone conclusion that they will address some of these bugs. Bethesda in fact has a history of leaving some fairly serious bugs in their games.

This is why the silence is so disturbing. It really is the precursor to not addressing a particular bug or problem. Once they make some statement about it, there is some actual degree of accountability. Someone could point to their own admission of an issue and say "when was this fixed?"

Why are you putting words in my mouth.

Not once did I say that Bethesda should sell patches. Bethesda is fixing the game with their own money and time, and the very least you could do is show some degree of patience with them while they sort out this issue, instead of ranting about an issue that's been repeated to death on these forums today.

Sigh. First world problems.

If you are not complaining, then why are you not playing the game? Hmmm

.. and the people who are defending Bethesda are convinced Todd Howard and them can do no wrong and are working diligently to fix the small amount of problems the minority of us are dealing with.

Yeah, I'd rather be an [censored] and see results than a blind, ignorant follower.

Bethesda is awesome cause of fallout and ES

Cheers

Is there an ignore button on this forum?

I understood it perfectly. They probably wont fix everything....but with the giant amount of whining I'm sure some things will get worked on. I personally hope all your complaints get fixed dudes....I really do...but it seems like there are a bunch of sodding lunatics on here throwing [censored] at the wall trying to make bethesda look bad for such a small thing, and to boot alot of assumptions (like the fact that they dont care). They woulndt have made a [censored] video game for us if they didnt care.

Those are not game-breaking... Do you know what game-breaking is? These PS3 players that are getting un-tolerably low FPS problems, they can consider it "game-breaking" because it prevents them from playing the game (for the most part).

For example, my copy of Dragon Age 2 was very, very bugged. I could not complete my preferred romance option, and some quests were glitched. I could still play the game to its full (mostly) extent, so it wasn't game-breaking.

I'm not saying that those problems are OKAY to have, but claiming that, because of them, the game is broken, is just ridiculous.



Are you serious? If someone enjoys the game they should be doing nothing but playing it 24/7? What?

I think what you are missing is that you had this knowledge before buying the game but still chose to buy it, which in effect removes your logical right to complain about it to no end. Lest you intentionally want to look dumb, in which case dont let me stop you.

Yeah it was funny at first, now it's just sad.

True enough. But if they'd spent a little more money and time *before* releasing the game, they wouldn't have so much negative feedback from the public.

And before you go touting all the votes for 'I would' in the would you buy another Bethesda game post, add up all the rest and realize that those are the majority saying that the game needed more work before it was released.

Exactly...nobody put a gun to your heads and made you buy Skyrim.

Where would you rather I put them?


That's because it's their responsibility to their consumers. They have that money because we're buying their products. If their products aren't working as they should, they're obligated to fix them.

Automakers can't sell cars that don't work properly. Why would you expect something different of video game developers?

You see, many of us have been thru this since the very beginning. and no, not the beginning of TES:Skyrim. We aren't making Beth look bad in this stage of it's life, They, Themselves are.

I'll be playing if I could, but yea my game just froze for the 3rd time in a hour. I also had to delete my 12MB save because the 4+ minute loading times were starting to spread to my other characters.
Yup no bugs at all...oh wait...

...because I've been playing skyrim like 6 hours straight, and gonna go to bed now. So thought I'd poke my head in the forum and see if theres any important news like CS or new mods... not everyone uses the forum as a soapbox

Yeah, I won't argue that. I'm sure Bethesda could have spent more time fixing things before releasing it, and that would have saved all this from happening. But the fact that they're trying to fix a lot of bugs (and have fixed the lag bug for PS3) shows that they aren't ignoring users' complaints. I remember how buggy Bethesda left Oblivion. To be honest, it seems like they're trying harder and putting more effort this time around.

Seems "they" have been investigating since yesterday, just haven't bothered to tell everybody:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1295737-game-no-longer-recognizes-my-magic-resistance-after-patch/page__st__20__p__19526329#entry19526329

I still think they could/should/better be making an official statement to clear the air and be upfront to their customers.

Of course, everyone everywhere. We all can no longer play our game. Are you playing now? No, I didn't think so, your reading a forum post, that means your game is BROKEN BEYOND REPAIR.

What, you like this game? Did you understand Broken beyond repair? Are you arguing? Your an idiot for arguing.

You know what? I think the creation kit wont come out until after the 23rd DLC, strictly because Todd Howard hates PC gamers now. Modders? God those guys are tools. Todd and crew are purposely holding back the the tools to allow us to fix the game? You know why? Sushi. They want to pay for Sushi, so what they will do is SELL The fixes to the game. Why? Their bond villains every one of them.

Also, while PC gamers think that the issue is with them, it's really ONLY a discrimination against PS3 gamers.

Honestly, Bethesda really just hates all gamers everywhere. They must be paying game reviewers off too. It's a massive conspiracy... I blame the free masons. I'll ask the one I work with... but you know what? He'll deny it, like they always do...

I need to make another hat, where is the aluminum foil?

Because I am?

I browse the forums during loading screens. I'm playing the game while I'm talking, albeit with the pause menu up so a Draugr doesn't eat me.


Did I ever say that?

Personally, I've never run into ANY bugs or crashes, and only a few graphical glitches. My friends say the same.

If thinking that a game I didn't get over-hyped for, and expected bugs from, and then LOVING it more than Morrowind is a good thing, then I guess I'm a 'blind, ignorant follower'.