My statement: the patch has no negative effects on my game so far, furthermore, I have very few (2) quest bugs and my Xbox has frozen on me twice. For a Beth game, that is simply amazing, thank you Beth.

bethesda seems to have a very serious problem when it comes to public statements.

their ardent refusal to say anything is extremely frustrating and ultimately forces us to believe or expect the worst from them.

this!!
worst community managing i′ve ever seen in gaming industry... Gstaff should work a few weeks for CCP or Bioware (com man assist ofc) to get the hang of public relations....
i mean it′s not actually hard to write something like "hey guys our dev′s are working their butts off to fix bugs/issues" - just freakin talk to your customers even if it′s just about the game

I think you are confusing the difference between someone doing something terrible to you, and someone failing to do something wonderful for you. Running over someone's dog is a terrible thing to do, and it's done with no reason.

Giving you a video game that doesn't work properly compares in no way to that. The video game is a toy, something for you to enjoy, it's a luxury. Not having it work properly for a little while is nothing even close to an injustice. This is the most common weakness in some of the complaints on this board, people tend to view Skyrim as something to which they are entitled.

For one thing, it's a luxury. Yes, you paid for it, but if you used your life savings on Skyrim you are either a little kid, or an idiot. Skyrim is something you buy with extra money, not with your grocery money. It's a toy, a luxury, not something you are going to need at any point in your life.

Secondly, you don't really have any rights in it to begin with. I'm not saying I agree with this, because I don't. I'm saying it's true. If you read the EULA and you read the copyright cases and the laws associated with this stuff, you'd see that video games are licensed, not sold. You don't own it. You don't own the box, the manual, the cd, the game, nothing. No law anywhere (in the USA) supports this idea that you have some vested right in the game. You never have, not even Morrowind. Look at my signature. It's a travesty, but it's true.

So while I understand a lot of people complaining about things that go wrong, I cannot understand at all why they take this so seriously. It's a game. A toy. When a toy breaks it's not the end of the world, it's just a toy. It's for fun, casual, spare time.

If fewer people would get so bent out of shape over this, and quit acting like Bethesda just insulted their grandmother, these boards would be a lot more peaceful.

This. Most people don't have any issues with their game at all. There's only a tiny fraction that do (and even most of those are just people trolling).

You're very sure of your assumption. Also, arrogant and insulting, to boot.

It's one thing to say that YOU aren't having any problems, but it's quite another to say that everyone else is lying.

and even most of those are just people trolling.

even most of those

even most

Go read the Beth Blog.

no offense but are you serious?

if 1 of my cars wou?dn′t work after i bought it i would just get my money back - same here, skyrims buggy [censored]hell - and the game looks like crap on ultra settings with forced aa X16 you need so many HD tex mods that it doesn′t look like console [censored] from year 2006.... well they made it for consoles nothing more to say...

You're very sure of your assumption. Also, arrogant and insulting, to boot.

It's one thing to say that YOU aren't having any problems, but it's quite another to say that everyone else is lying.

MOST

I take it that you don't understand the definition of the word "assumption"

Point is that you have absolutely no way of knowing what any, much less most players are experiencing. You'd have much more credibility if you kept your commentary limited to what you know to be true, rather than what your cynicism dictates.

He is right when he says that not everyone (Let's think about it, there are more than 5.000.000 players) is experiencing big bugs (I for example). But I agree that there's no way to know a exact percentage, be it bad or good.

I take it that you don't understand the definition of the word "assumption"

Point is that you have absolutely no way of knowing what any, much less most players are experiencing. You'd have much more credibility if you kept your commentary limited to what you know to be true, rather than what your cynicism dictates.

Of course it isn't everyone that's having problems, but that isn't really the point.

what really pisses me off are [censored] fan-boys defending beth... as customers that paid for a product we can demand and not only want a working product... game industry svcks nowadays... except for ea bf3 was patched very fast and is working properly on most rigs (overlooking old crap hardware from <2007)

what really pisses me off are [censored] fan-boys defending beth... as customers that paid for a product we can demand and not only want a working product... game industry svcks nowadays... except for ea bf3 was patched very fast and is working properly on most rigs (overlooking old crap hardware from <2007)

nope they dont pay. their daddy pays.

theese fan boys really piss me of too. if u dare critisie something you are the idiot. srsly? not sure if mayority here is troll or just very stupid. and they don't really want the complexoty morro had to offer, they want shiny feature like graphics, physics flyeing dragons, cool armor etc instead of useing your brain a little in the game. and since they are the 3.2 million who bougtg it first day, beth gonna do it this way

(just why do you think advanture games died while crap like modern warfare thrives?)

I think that it's the point when the discussion is about "Bethesda made a broke game! Let's put fire on their HQ!" because it demonstrates that some people do not are affected by the so-called "Big Broken Game!". But here? No, it's not the point.

Wow, for once I'm glad I never bother to pull the ethernet cord across the apartment to my 360 It does svck a little bit having to set the Xbox-clock every time but this makes up for it.