After re-playing SI, re-reading some topics here, and books etc. I came back to one old question I always had.

How does time work in Oblivion? I mean for simplicity, let's skip SI and the whole crackpot of theories behind it and concentrate on "real" (again, let's not argue this) Daedric Realms.

My personal view on things is, admittedly based solely on one creation myth, that time is USED by the Princes, but not enforced on them per-se. To elaborate, I think that the Princes as was stated "found that they can realize themselves easier with linear time".

I think they more or less make the illussion of time for the sake of simplicity. It's easier for them, also because (not admittedly but IMHO) they revolve around all things Nirn. It's so much simpler to keep up with the "times" by emulating the flow if you get my meaning

So to make it clear, time doesn't "exist" in Oblivion per-se, but it can be emulated by the Princes, and most probably do it. They cannot time-travel in Nirn however IMHO (they are bound by laws in Nirn like anyone else).

What do you think?

well im no lore buff but if there was no time, then why the hell does Akatosh exsist?

We know that Akatosh is the God of Time, Pelinal was from the future as confirmed by MK, Dragonbreaks mess up the space-time continuum, and one in-game minute is about 2 real-life seconds.

The Princes NEED time. Without it, they can't exist. Nothing really can. Akatosh was weakened by the creation of Mundus, as such time is now lienar for the Daedra too. Still, any Daedra stupid enough to purposely remove itself from time would find its identity non-existent, which is something the Daedra don't want.




These facts all seem false to me. I think you need to check them out.

What does Haskill say about time? There are pressing matters that require your attention, and somehow you can still cruise Cyrodiil as if you have forever in the world?

I prefer to think about 'Time' in the way that Dyus and Jygglegorath (Shiggles just before going poof in a shower of rainbow sparklies!) think about time.

An arbitrary system based on the arbitrary idea that events must come in a sequential order, and that this is not the way it really is at all.

EG-- Time is "Flat" to Gods.

Uh...sorry to but in but..

Pelinal was from the future?!?

Yup.... He is the "Star-made knight"


;)

He's like "The terminator" with a few screws loose, and a bee's nest inside his head!

:blink:

Brain= :nuke:

He even had a plasma gun and everything!!!


(Well, MK said it was 'killing light' in his left hand--- but it sure sounds like a plasma gun to me!)

Pelinal must really be the TES terminator, seeming that his severed head decided to start talking one day...

I'm actually pretty sure he's an alien.

I heard hologram like in Star Trek. Except the safety protocols don't exist.

You really derailed it for me

Yes Pelinal was from future, supposedly a terminator kind of person with bad genocidal tendencies, can we skip that already please?

We're running out of TIME here!

Even Akatosh is imprisoned by the binding powers of dracochrysalis. Pelinal, however, shrugs off the puny laws of fGlobalTimeScale.

Why, then, is Akatosh bound and Pelinal not?

I think this is pretty accurate. Most sources seem to agree that time is just something artificial.



Apparently the ordering of events and thus time is also up to the individual god and Mara seems to have taken a slice out the relative future when she brought in Pelinal his armor.

For some odd reason, this however doesn't mean the future is set in stone. Jyg and Dyus for example didn't predict that Sheogorath's Champion would defeat him.

A concept like destruction may require time. First there must be an object, then there must be the absence of that object. For mortals to relate, a frame of reference is needed for the concept, and Daedra want mortal worship. A pain in the ass, no doubt.