are you guys forgetting the random encounter in fallout 2 where you went back in time and accidentally broke the water chip which started the events in fallout 1? time travel can work if only in a completely hilarious way!! just not to before the war.

This sounds a lot like a crappy DLC that started with A? hmmm... yeah.

I meant, it doesn't exist in the Fallout universe. Happy?

Nay, it'd be stoopid.

Complicated.

Agrred, you've got me out of words.

Thanks. So it only effects the object traveling at light speed.

Btw where did you quote the passage below from?

I can't remember now, it wasn't wikipedia though, you cant trust 100% from there

If the encounter involves a dramatic event in canon, and which in this situation had no previous explanation, is it still a joke?
Who did, in the first place, say that all the special encounters are jokes?

Having a Reference to Star Trek's "The City on the Edge of Forever" Time portal Is an easter egg a joke. Maybe not all are meant to be funny but they are not meant to be part of the game. If you feel that they should then lets have all of the damn easter eggs in the game lets have star trek portals, starship enterprise and Godzilla, why not DR.WHO? People these things were in the games as fun not to be taken as fallout Canon and not to be part of the game.

No, I still don't want Godzilla or Dr. Who in this game. I'm just saying that if you involve one of the biggest events of the game series in an easter egg, would it have any sort of a meaning besides the silly pop culture reference Fallout 2 is way too full of? And again, where does it say that special encounters never "happen" in the games? That telephone booth thingy for one. I don't know where that came from but my character clearly saw that and he did loot the item from where the booth stood.

so what you are saying is that any Special encounter can be added to the game because it was in past games? your only relying on your faith in the game developers not to put crap like Dr.who and Godzilla in the game. You would like to see Star Trek Time Portals? The developers maybe be trusted not to do that crap but their bosses migh do it. "Hey how can we get Star Trek fans to buy Fallout!" "I know a mission where you get beamed aboard the Enterprise and fight the Aliens!" I don't trust them not to do that. If they want the WOW, COOL factor they will. Only thing keeping that from happening is Canon but you seem hell bent on letting any special encounter be canon with only your faith in the game developers not to add that crap.

This is why I am again the Aliens, because you let them in as canon, you have to let in Star Trek Time portals and all the other special encounters!

Not if I can help it! :flamethrower:

Look, I don't give a rat's ass about Star Trek. And I definately don't want Star Trek or Dr. Who being canon in Fallout. Mostly because they are different franchises and they IMO svck.

I'm just asking, if apparent events in the game, where our characters can even loot items to fight the bad guys with, actually happen in the world. I don't think that Star Trek events and items are involved in Fallout world. Same for Dr. Who, but the Fallout 1/2 events where those references are involved: Do they happen? If I picked that item up when the phone booth disappeared. Does my character have that item in reality, or is he imagining it all. References like the Gojira footprint, sure they clearly didn't "happen" because those are one-time, "isolated" events. But the time-travel encounter for example: You go and start the whole Fallout 1 story with it. Would it be different if the time travel, say, involved just visiting Vault 13, not sabotaging it? Then the event would have no actual connections to the storyline, and then it definately would be counted as "never happened".

And I didn't let Aliens be Fallout canon. In case you didn't notice, I'm not a Bethesda employee and thus I had no authority to decide what is going to be included in Fallout 3. But Aliens are there and our characters can interact with them. That makes them "real" and that makes them canon. It's a scientific fact. Before MZ the alien crash site could have been seen as an easter egg as it has no effect on overall gameplay or our characters whatsoever.

Any Encounter where something is left behind or you get to fight someone, to me is an added bonus. Nothing more. Easter Eggs meant to be fun. I know you (Pistolero) alone where not the one that let aliens in as canon. Sorry if I came off as blaming you and you alone. I never thought you did work for them.

I don't like the idea of changing the past by time traveling. If it tured out it was all a dream and nothing was really changed then I would be happy with that. It would have to have a good story behind the "dream time travel" as well.

Regardless of what we think, my question remains open: Did the special encounters happen.

But then again, that means we would have to ask the developers. So we can drop this topic, eh?


However, I would still not like time travel in Fallouts especially if it takes us into pre-war time. Simulations like O:A are good, though, and such a sim should appear in NV

yea we are getting off topic and I think we agree on keeping time travel and godzilla and anything star trek from becoming canon.

Did the encounters happen like were they a mirage a figment of the imagination? Was the item that is picked up just sitting in the wasteland and the wanderer's mind came up with what ever was in the encounter to explain why he/she has it?
if that was what you were trying to tell me in the first place. then yeah that is a great mind trip question. If you ever have the chance to ask a fallout developer one from FO1/2 that would be a great question.

They are still just special encounters and should not be canon.

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wow i only mentioned blue box as random encounter as dr.who franchise is from the 1950s which is coincidently the same era of pre-war fallout universe
as the franchise is remade and popular in today's generation i know it is very unlikely to being an easter egg ,but this topic was about time travel maybe i should said
muscline guy name harkness 9.0210 ask are you joan connar attempts to kill you if you say yes
a brahmin vs deloreant hit and run incident leaving x 10 meat ,
of oceanic 6 arguing about which direction to the foot of the statue is
primeval portal appears pc steps in to a modern warehouse to be chased out by a t-rex from the 21st century which follows pc back into NV
alexander hartdegen throws a unique hat with strong stats at you and say hats look silly dont they her have this ol boy it looks better on you before zapping away in his time contraption

but with all that nonsense aside i think maybe g,e,c,k pre-war simulation will at least play a role in new vegas as an arcade attraction at least

In the mod I am making right now (unrelated to this topic) you actually do find guys frozen in a cryo lab, and you unfreeze them and break the news that its been 200 years and the world was practically destroyed. It is quite the thrilling tale.

And by time travel do you suppose the player could somehow prevent the world from being destroyed in a nuclear holocaust? Time travel is fantasy, unless you are a sub-atomic particle or you appeal to paralell realities, and both options are too lame to be put in a videogame... :shakehead:

I'd love to see all of that. Great imagination. I would like a least a random encounter with a time travel event.

I think the poll speaks for itself.
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If you wanted to time travel.

I think it's a good idea, but not in this game. Maybe as a whole other game, by itself, no expansions and whatnot. A new game where you play as a person during the attacks.

Fallout: Orgins

Like a prequel to the whole series. That would be cool. But not time travel.

Sorry but its not, take it from an old timer (me) who watched the first Dr Who episode on British TV on 23 November 1963, the day after Kennedy was killed.

I was 10 years old at the time and both events are stamped in my mind.