Time travel? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:13 pm

Wouldn't it be cool if they had a quest where you could time travel to like 2070 or sometime before the Great War. Then you can walk around a chunk of vegas before the bombs hit it. Everything in prestine condition, people grumbling about. Maybe it would have to be earlier, since the plague was messing everything up. But would this be cool? I think it would.

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:33 pm

Nothing against time travel itself but before the war is a thing we will likely never see in this game. That's the point. Our characters live in post-nuclear world and all that is left from the previous one is skeletons, ruins and items. And the Enclave.

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:30 pm

The Fallout universe itself has established a post-apoc culture and atmosphere and it really doesn't seem it wants to show us how things were before the war. Not that it would be bad, just that its specific is already pretty clear. And I voted NO, I don't want more complications just because of time travel.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:32 am

The only acceptable form of time travel are simulations like Operation: Anchorage. Everything else doesn't fit the setting.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:49 am

Fallout is a great stand alone game we don't need to add time Travel to it. Having time travel will change the game just like aliens would. We don't need it.

I agree with Mikael Grizzly, only if it is a simulation.

Not some terminator crap were you try to stop the great war or some bs.

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:48 pm

It would be neat to see the pre-war US just before the bombs hit, and afterward in a SIDE QUEST. But, that is about it. Maybe somebody from the past comes to the future, or a more futuristic person comes to modern times (modern as in when your character is alive).

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:20 pm

Wouldn't it be cool if they had a quest where you could time travel to like 2070 or sometime before the Great War. Then you can walk around a chunk of vegas before the bombs hit it. Everything in prestine condition, people grumbling about. Maybe it would have to be earlier, since the plague was messing everything up. But would this be cool? I think it would.

Maybe not traveling BACK before the war, but maybe if someone from 2077 time traveled to the post-war world and maybe got trapped there. If there was a time travel machine it seems like the whole point of Fallout would be eventually ruined/ reversed by warning/stopping the nuclear war.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:32 am

Maybe not traveling BACK before the war, but maybe if someone from 2077 time traveled to the post-war world and maybe got trapped there. If there was a time travel machine it seems like the whole point of Fallout would be eventually ruined/ reversed by warning/stopping the nuclear war.

That's exactly the same as a cryogenically frozen person emerging into a post nuclear world.

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:13 pm

Time travel doesn't exist and it would be pretty dumb.

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:12 pm

Only if it was simply a flashback. Time travel might serve as some sort of Easter egg, but would otherwise detract from the theme. Let's refine what we have, not add more decorations.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:21 am

3rd answer

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:43 am

That's exactly the same as a cryogenically frozen person emerging into a post nuclear world.

I can see that happening, it happened in fallout 2.

Spoiler

Sierra Army Depot has a man named private Dobbs in cryogenic suspension. You can get him out but he runs into a force field and dies."

I can see people still in cryogenic suspension somewhere. They can be revived and be able to tell you about the world before the war. That is not time travel but a cool idea.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:50 am

Time travel doesn't exist and it would be pretty dumb.

Really? What are you doing now, and it's theoretically sound to travel forward in time physics prove it, it's just physicists can't work out how we could go back......at the moment. Sorry just had to say that I found your statement slightly narrow minded

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:29 pm

I can see that happening, it happened in fallout 2.

Spoiler

Sierra Army Depot has a man named private Dobbs in cryogenic suspension. You can get him out but he runs into a force field and dies."

I can see people still in cryogenic suspension somewhere. They can be revived and be able to tell you about the world before the war. That is not time travel but a cool idea.

There was also a special random encounter with The Guardian, which was a portal taken from an episode of Star Trek.

Spoiler

Which when stepped through deposited you in Vault 13 just before the water chip broke to start Fallout 1, and to get out again you had to break the water chip

, this involved a set piece of time travel.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:10 am

Time travel doesn't exist and it would be pretty dumb.

Neither do SuperMutants, Giant Ants, FEV, ect.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:41 am

There was also a special random encounter with The Guardian, which was a portal taken from an episode of Star Trek.

Spoiler

Which when stepped through deposited you in Vault 13 just before the water chip broke to start Fallout 1, and to get out again you had to break the water chip

, this involved a set piece of time travel.

special encounters are not canon please don't get into that

they are meant to be jokes for fun nothing more not to have them added to and built on as a working part of the game.

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:12 pm

There was also a special random encounter with The Guardian, which was a portal taken from an episode of Star Trek.

Spoiler

Which when stepped through deposited you in Vault 13 just before the water chip broke to start Fallout 1, and to get out again you had to break the water chip

, this involved a set piece of time travel.

hah! That's quite funny and clever, but I don't think we should see anything to do with time travel it just doesn't fit with the game. I am up for little easter eggs though

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:29 am

Really? What are you doing now, and it's theoretically sound to travel forward in time physics prove it, it's just physicists can't work out how we could go back......at the moment. Sorry just had to say that I found your statement slightly narrow minded

can you elaborate more?i think i saw something on the discovery channel about this a couple years ago

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:25 pm

I voted no. Not because the idea in itself is bad, but it just feels like it's been done already with the world simulator quest in Fallout 3.

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:46 pm

It would be fun to find a Cryo-Lab. :'O

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:41 am

can you elaborate more?i think i saw something on the discovery channel about this a couple years ago

I'll be honest im no scientist and only have very basic understanding about it, there was something about moving a ship near to the speed of light(note near) and it having something to do with time dilation where time passes slower for the person travelling at relativistic speeds or another theory is you can sit on the edge of a blackhole and time will warp around you somthinbg to do with gravity and frames of reference blah blah blah

Time isn't constant
Most people believe that everyone experiences time in exactly the same way, regardless of the physical circumstances present. The truth is that this isn't the case. Einstein, in his theories of relativity, postulated that the measured time interval between two events, would depend on how fast the observer would be moving. This hypothesis has been proven by various methods. The problem is that on Earth, the amount of speed needed to alter the time effect, just isn't applicable to us, in an everyday sense. Tests have shown that travel by plane, increases a second by a few nanoseconds. In the laboratory, subatomic particles called muons, have been propelled at light speed in atomic generators, and have shown that their rate of decay slows dramatically in respect to their higher velocities. The author cites that cosmic rays, from outer space, can reach us on earth, because the resulting speed of these rays reduces their rate of decay, allowing them to reach us and be seen by us. Dramatic time warps start occurring near the speed of light. Mr. Davies gives an example of this phenomenon, by stating that if twins are born at the same time, and one travels at the speed of light for a year before returning to earth, the traveling twin would be one year old, while the earthbound twin could have aged 10 earth years. The paradox here is that, although they are twins, they would have different ages at this point.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:39 am

Time travel just don't sound good to me. One thing is though is that some day in are world it might become real or not even become real.

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:50 am

would be call to make a return of that blue police box as a random encounter ,taking you to the past for a mini quest to get knocked out and returned to the present by its owner you kno Who i mean !

» Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:40 pm

If people couldn't do pre-war, how could someone do it post-war?

» Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:40 am

Ok then.. I guess it would be stupid then. I just thought maybe if you get sent back in time for like a minute it would be awsome to see the city before it was destroyed. :/