[RaeAnne]

The [censored]....

Immortal is right. That was the attempted vampire RP....

[Cameron Wood]

They have a couple of SoS threads on there too.

[Kristina Campbell]

http://www.gamesas.com/byzance-t44697.html

What the hell is this? I wrote up this RP a long time ago. Someone just took it and put it on here or is this some sort of archive forum?


Edit: I'm confused...

http://www.gamesas.com/immortalblood-timeline-t11093.html

It's a fake forum that copies posts from the BSGF and posts it under randomly created accounts using similar avatars and random names to pass off as a real forum. It used to be called GameFallout.com. From what I've heard, they won't let anyone real register on that forum.

There was a thread about this website not long ago in CD, they do it so that they get as many hits as possible to their website by using content from other forum sites that hit high results on google, it's basically a lazy form of search engine optimisation in which you do no work but reap all results. I believe gamesas have sent several cease and desist notices to said websites owners but they keep re-appearing under new domain names.

although, that RP would have been badass. I demand a remake.

[Laura Simmonds]

We could make something like that but also have a bit more of a non vampire plot to go along with it since I know some people detest vampires. Even so it could be in its original format and people should realize that vampirism isn't something you HAVE to have in order to participate.

[Gen Daley]

Ok question for y'all:

Where in lore does it say Sentinel has gunpowder, or has used cannons? I know I've read it somewhere but I can't find it on the UESP or TIL. Help please?

[lisa nuttall]

Ok question for y'all:

Where in lore does it say Sentinel has gunpowder, or has used cannons? I know I've read it somewhere but I can't find it on the UESP or TIL. Help please?

'Tis mentioned in a Daggerfall joke book and you can also see them in the game Redguard.

[Jessica Raven]

We could make something like that but also have a bit more of a non vampire plot to go along with it since I know some people detest vampires. Even so it could be in its original format and people should realize that vampirism isn't something you HAVE to have in order to participate.

Likewise many people hate just about everything else. We could mold it up a bit and create a non-vampire plot revolving...eh, whatever the hell else you people do. Maybe some human politics or something. And then a vampire plot for those who enjoy it.

[Trent Theriot]

'Tis mentioned in a Daggerfall joke book and you can also see them in the game Redguard.

Thank you.

[leni]

We could make something like that but also have a bit more of a non vampire plot to go along with it since I know some people detest vampires. Even so it could be in its original format and people should realize that vampirism isn't something you HAVE to have in order to participate.

No. I will kill all teh humanz. If my current RP goes down the toilet, I'll be making a VTM:B inspired RP, with my own self created vampire clans with my own views on vampire geneology and evolution throughout the world of TES, not that crappy in game vampire malark.

[LuBiE LoU]

No. I will kill all teh humanz. If my current RP goes down the toilet, I'll be making a VTM:B inspired RP, with my own self created vampire clans with my own views on vampire geneology and evolution throughout the world of TES, not that crappy in game vampire malark.

Gasp! Blasphemy!

And I thought we can all make a lore-related RP. I just feel a modified roleplay is...eh..not "real".

Can't we just make one relating to the vampires in lore?

[Cccurly]

Gasp! Blasphemy!

And I thought we can all make a lore-related RP. I just feel a modified roleplay is...eh..not "real".

Can't we just make one relating to the vampires in lore?

The problem is, other than the Morrowind vampires, the rest are very murky in terms of organisation, communication, numbers, location, appearance, abilities, feeding habbits etc etc. One of the only sources of information is the Immortal Blood book which is murky at best and Skyrim didn't even stick to their own lore when making skyrim, the Volkihar in game are nothing like described, it's terrible. Vampires are dark, sinister, plotting, charismatic, charming, beautiful, disgusting, reprehensible, violent, elegant, clever, cunnning, beguiling and treacherous.

To me, they are the very epitome of contradiction, masqueraders and actors in the face of society, clever hunters and violent killers behind it's mask, they are supposed to be beautiful and horrific at the same time, gentle and forceful at others. None of this is portrayed in game and rarely in lore either, so I prefer to take my own views and understanding of the nature of vampires and apply it to TES.

For example, in lore very little is stated about the Whet Tooth clan of Argonia, other than the fact that they are reclusive, secrative and rarely seen. So when they featured in my fanfic, I imposed my own imagination of what they are, Argonian vampires who feed on the blood of others, but have evolved to survive on very little and due to the seclusion have naturally evolved a venom that acts as a coma inducing sedative, when they drink blood from their victims they remove the nutrients which are unneeded for a vampire from the blood and it is injected back into the body via their mandible like fangs, which fold out from the roof of their elongated mouths similar to a serpents, this is to keep victims alive for as long as possible between acquisition of more food sources, since their seclusion makes it difficult to obtain regular supplies of blood. Obviously this only applies to the secluded Whet tooth clan, if an Argonian where to be turned by a Cyrodilic vampire it would be very different. The Whet tooth clan also embellish their scales with various precious stones and hardened Hist sap, since their scales don't regenerate as well over time as a normal vampires flesh would, partly due to their stunted nutrition, partly due to their location.

This obviously isn't to every ones tastes, but I like it.

Besides, isn't the timeline just one long modified roleplay?

[Jeff Tingler]

No reason we can't do that sort of thing in our RP. But i mean you do what you want. Just don't think you're being limited here.

[Stacy Hope]

The problem is, other than the Morrowind vampires, the rest are very murky in terms of organisation, communication, numbers, location, appearance, abilities, feeding habbits etc etc. One of the only sources of information is the Immortal Blood book which is murky at best and Skyrim didn't even stick to their own lore when making skyrim, the Volkihar in game are nothing like described, it's terrible. Vampires are dark, sinister, plotting, charismatic, charming, beautiful, disgusting, reprehensible, violent, elegant, clever, cunnning, beguiling and treacherous.

To me, they are the very epitome of contradiction, masqueraders and actors in the face of society, clever hunters and violent killers behind it's mask, they are supposed to be beautiful and horrific at the same time, gentle and forceful at others. None of this is portrayed in game and rarely in lore either, so I prefer to take my own views and understanding of the nature of vampires and apply it to TES.

For example, in lore very little is stated about the Whet Tooth clan of Argonia, other than the fact that they are reclusive, secrative and rarely seen. So when they featured in my fanfic, I imposed my own imagination of what they are, Argonian vampires who feed on the blood of others, but have evolved to survive on very little and due to the seclusion have naturally evolved a venom that acts as a coma inducing sedative, when they drink blood from their victims they remove the nutrients which are unneeded for a vampire from the blood and it is injected back into the body via their mandible like fangs, which fold out from the roof of their elongated mouths similar to a serpents, this is to keep victims alive for as long as possible between acquisition of more food sources, since their seclusion makes it difficult to obtain regular supplies of blood. Obviously this only applies to the secluded Whet tooth clan, if an Argonian where to be turned by a Cyrodilic vampire it would be very different. The Whet tooth clan also embellish their scales with various precious stones and hardened Hist sap, since their scales don't regenerate as well over time as a normal vampires flesh would, partly due to their stunted nutrition, partly due to their location.

This obviously isn't to every ones tastes, but I like it.

Besides, isn't the timeline just one long modified roleplay?

Correction: Whet-Fang.

And I agree with everything you said. Though remember, the vampires of Morrowind are different. The Quarra are barbaric and actually have been known to lop a man's arm off and to destroy villages. Berne and Aundae are more subtle, but nevertheless barbaric. Vampires of Cyrodiil are practically political manipulators and scheming politics trying to fit in society while deceiving the masses. They fit the bill of charismatic, cunning, deceitful, charming and power-hungry. As well as efficient.

"To me, they are the very epitome of contradiction, masqueraders and actors in the face of society, clever hunters and violent killers behind it's mask, they are supposed to be beautiful and horrific at the same time, gentle and forceful at others. None of this is portrayed in game and rarely in lore either."

Read Manifesto Cyrodiil Vampyrum. It's the only organized vampire clan we have read about in lore. And we have enough information to speculate that these vampires simply go from province to province and take over. Since in the book they claimed Cyrodiil was their stronghold in the Third Era, which means it was never theirs initially. And Immortal Blood reinforces this by saying they "Ousted all other competitors."

The Whet-Fang are a crazy bunch indeed. All we know is that they keep slaves catatonic and that the Cyrodiilic vampires find them enlightened, but nevertheless a threat to be destroyed. Even in Deepscorn hollow the sleeping prisoner fits the description of one of these cattle.

I think we can set an RP about a vampire rivalry. Perhaps in Skyrim or something in the Fourth Era, since the Thalmor took over Cyrodiil, I am sure the vampires there migrated to Skyrim.(Volkihar my ass. Volkihar CANNOT blend in. It's not possible. The only vampires that can blend in are the Cyrodiilic ones and they are damn good at it. Plus the reverse feeding only strengthens my belief that the vampires in the game, Skyrim, are not the Volkihar. Bethesda just slapped the name on the highest NPC's because they want an excuse to abide by lore.

No reason we can't do that sort of thing in our RP. But i mean you do what you want. Just don't think you're being limited here.

Well, how well will it do? It doesn't really deal with a big steaming desert with smelly black dudes and slobbering camels and pirates ships, am I right?

I think it['s fairly limited. We have to slap in a human faction or two to appease the other folks.

[Joanne]

I have read most of the vampire lore books, including the one you stated, but It's been a while and really it mostly just slipped my mind. But in the 200 intervening years between Oblivion and Skyrim there has yet to be any real expanded lore of real substance regarding the Cyrodilic strain, we know nothing of the hierarchy and only that they can blend in with other humans/Mer, what we know about their abilities and physical appearance is gleaned from a pretty lore inaccurate game. I really think the Sanguine Vampyris strain in skyrim has more in common to what I imagined the Cyrodilic clan to be like, their strength and speed in oblivion didn't really fit with the politically motivated and savvy profile of the clan, while the sanguines abilities do (in my opinion)

It isn't really the Cyrodilic or Morrowind vampires that originally needed to be built upon, but one could argue that since the Thalmor invasion and the Red Year or Morrowind, that the four aforementioned clans possibly underwent great changes in either physical attributes/appearance of organisation. I wouldn't be surprised if the Morrowind clans put aside differences and amalgamated into one group merely for survival, similar to the houses of Morrowind after the red year and the sacking of Morrowind by the argonians (Unless confirmed otherwise, I haven't read any new lore regarding Morrowind's political state since the Red year)

In regards to the Sanguine Vampyris, could it also be theorised that they are the next step in evolution from the Cyrodilic strain, it could be possible that Morvath, who was turned by a Cyrodilic Vampire (immortal blood) and moved in on the skyrim territories (Can be found in game in skyrim for a quest if any of you haven't come across him) this could explain the distinctive absence of the Volkihar, since the Cyrodilic and perhaps by extension, the sanguinis strains have a reputation for encroaching and dominating foreign territory.

This would make the Sanguinis strain a lot more bearable in my eyes.

[Ebou Suso]

Yes, the whole Movarth issue is one of the reasons why I believe the strain evolved over the two century gap. Though Sybille Stentor, also a vampire, considers the rest to be uncivilzed barbarics living in caves. She sends you out to kill them. She hangs around the highest political center in Skyrim and also feeds on prisoners, as the Pale Lady does in Oblivion. Not to mention she uses her title as wizard to excuse her youth and cover her vampirism. Similar to Janus Hassildor, no doubt a vampire of the Cyrodiilic clan.

Since we have most things speculated/narrowed down, all we need is a good plot to set things in motion. Any ideas on what you are to write?

[Jaylene Brower]

Well before we get too far ahead....does anyone still have interest in this Taneth Siege thing?

[Laura Richards]

Well before we get too far ahead....does anyone still have interest in this Taneth Siege thing?

I do. Can't speak for the others.

[celebrity]

I am interested.

[james reed]

No. Not interested.

[Veronica Flores]

Can't say I'm particularly interested in the Taneth thing. I'm about ready to move on from the entire KSS situation.

The vampire RP sounds fun. The cool thing about vampires is that you can find some to fit everyone's taste; you have the schemers that W&V seems fond of, the crazy swamp ones that Solidor likes, and then the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Locked_Room that I prefer.

[Francesca]

So what will we do?

[abi]

Have the Cyrodiil RP while the siege is still going on perhaps?

[Inol Wakhid]

I'll give it a few days and see what others say too before we go on.

[Ice Fire]

Hey, whats going on!

[Stryke Force]

Just popping in to say that no, not really interested in the Taneth siege thing. I'd probably take a minor role if the mini-Cyrodiil political Elder Council thingamajig were to go ahead, but that's about it from me.