Todd anounces 5 or 6 different dungeon construction sets : V

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:19 pm

it was nice to hear in the new todd howard interview more details about dungeon variety.

- Can you say a bit about the differences between the caves?

- We stock them still in kit form, and it's something we've done since Terminator: Future Shock. The difference is that we have become better at it. We have been better to make the environment more organic and uses several building blocks. For example, many types of caves in the game. Overgrown moss caves and ice caves are a few of them. We also have a cave inside a glacier and an imperial fort. Altogether there are probably five or six general construction sets, but within them there is much variation.

So what are the 5 or 6 general construction sets?
1. Imperial Fort
2. 'Typical' cave
3. 'Elvish' ruin (I'm not too good with lore)
4. Dwemer ruin
5. Glacier cave
6. ?

what do u guys think?

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:49 am

Personally I can't wait to see the overgrown moss caves.

Nord Tomb.

Totally forgot about those, good call.

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:54 am

6. ?

Nord Tomb.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:31 pm

Nord Tomb.

What about Daedric temple?

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:12 pm

Daedra aren't big in Skyrim, so I don't expect to see Morrowind style ruins. I believe Nordic Temples have been confirmed, so I'd switch them out for Elven ruins (of which we've had no mention) and add Nordic Barrows to the list.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:51 pm

Nord Tomb.

^This. Whatever they are though im just glad that there actually going to have some varietydifferences to them unlike Oblivion.

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:23 am

Ancient Ruin
Nordic Tomb
Cavern
Fortress
Glacial Cave
Dwemer Ruin

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:40 pm

Daedra aren't big in Skyrim, so I don't expect to see Morrowind style ruins. I believe Nordic Temples have been confirmed, so I'd switch them out for Elven ruins (of which we've had no mention) and add Nordic Barrows to the list.

Maybe ""Nord Tomb" might be too specific - could be a larger category that covers a variety of ancient Nord ruins. There are supposed to have been humans there for quite some time.

Ugh, I think we're forggeting everyone's least favorite dungeon type - the sewer.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:38 pm

I think it would be cool if one of them was some sort of ruin or cave containig the graves of other previous Dovakhiin.

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:48 am

So what are the 5 or 6 general construction sets?
1. Imperial Fort
2. 'Typical' cave
3. 'Elvish' ruin (I'm not too good with lore)
4. Dwemer ruin
5. Glacier cave
6. ?

what do u guys think?

Overgrown moss.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:26 pm

Falmer Ruins
Dwemer Ruins
Glacial Cave
Cave
Tomb
Fort

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:04 pm

Construction sets for dungeons = cookie cutter dungeon design again.

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:37 am

Construction sets for dungeons = cookie cutter dungeon design again.

That's pretty much how they've rolled ever since... well... ever.

Yes, even in Morrowind.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:58 pm

Falmer Ruins
Dwemer Ruins
Glacial Cave
Cave
Tomb
Fort

i think i agree. i think glacial cave is a category into itself. and moss cave, ice cave, etc would just fall under your typical 'cave'. while they mey be similar, im hoping that there is enough variety in the story for each cave. believable cave dwellers, interesting and varied stories etc.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:02 pm

"For example, many types of caves in the game. Overgrown moss caves and ice caves are a few of them. We also have a cave inside a glacier and an imperial fort. Altogether there are probably five or six general construction sets, but within them there is much variation."

Hmmmm sounds very interesting and varied compared to Oblivion, 5/6 types of CAVE is very impressive.
Can't wait to find this cave thats inside the old imperial fort :tes:

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:21 am

Cant wait to explore all these caves and forts in Skyrim, it was one of my favorite things to do in Oblivion, despite the fact that they all had similar layouts.

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:10 am

U gotta remember he said each construction set has several different things in each category so anything "nordic" could be in one set itself i.e nordic tomb nordic ruin nordic blah blah

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:02 am

Construction sets for dungeons = cookie cutter dungeon design again.

If a bunch of novices are making the caves then yeah its bad news...buuuut....its bethesda so if anything they've learned from past mistakes mostly...mostly...but unlike other mistakes they've continued to do i am really secure about there cave designs thus time around...(oblivions caves werent that annoying until someone pointed it out)

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:11 pm

He made it sound like there's only one dungeon in a glacier. Like it's a unique dungeon, not a reaccuring one.

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:53 am

Construction sets for dungeons = cookie cutter dungeon design again.

I dont think so, caves in FO3 had variety in structure (not look) for example. They said this time we get six different types and within those six he even said there will be more variety. With the eight dungeon designers they have now I im sure they will be able to make enough variety and it wont feel like a "cookie cutter".

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:17 am

Nord Tomb.

never even heard of these, should be fun.

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:21 am

Construction sets for dungeons = cookie cutter dungeon design again.

There's only so much you can do with graphical resources, but I think you're being overly pessimistic given what Todd actually said.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:56 pm

Nord Tomb.

never even heard of these

TES 3 add-on BloodMoon?

» Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:17 am

I dont think a fort counts, though if it were an abandoned fort or something like what they did for that one mission i oblivion where you ran into the spirits of dead blades and whatnot.

» Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:18 pm

I thought he meant 6 sets for caves only. Not 6 sets total.