There's two posts right here dealing with the issue, one by a Steam user, and the thread that I linked. Are you such a sycophant that you can't even conceive the possibility that Steam could screw up on their installer? It's quite obvious that something is wrong so that it kicks into download mode rather than looking for the disc. Maybe you should build yourself a shrine to the gods of Steam who can obviously do no wrong in your eyes. I really don't understand why so many Steam supporters approach any issues regarding the company with such fanaticism. It's really quite pathetic frankly, and turns me off of using the service even more.

Good luck playing New Vegas, then. I'm sure the moderators here don't exactly tolerate piracy, though.
In any case, I will admit that I skimmed over the posts after yours - but I still think there's more than this to just "Steam can't install off a DVD properly", considering how I've found it to work fine myself on various occasions. I guess we'll see when I get my copy, if it ever arrives!

I considered making myself a "shrine to the gods of Steam", but considering what they do to the prices over here in Australia...

Either do I. If I decide that using Steam simply isn't worth it then I just won't play the game. At any rate I won't be playing it until the GOTY edition comes out. I'm reading far too many reports of various bugs. I'll wait and see how things are when the game's complete and all the issues have been dealt with.



Well in all fairness it seems to be happening very rarely, most people have no issues in that regard. So you may have just been lucky, or they've made some changes in their installers recently. Which is most likely the case I suspect.

Same plan here. Will be returning to modding when that time comes and maybe port a thing or two over.
In the mean time, with the great amount of work that is still to come, I doubt the Captal Wasteland will lose any of its charm.

A couple of my longtime favorites would be FWE, MMM, WMK, Powered Power Armor, Impervious Power Armor, IMCN, Ambient Temperature, HelmetPOV.
And probably any realism mod that adds depth and blends in seemlessly to the gameplay.

I've gotta through my thanks out there to all the modders and "teachers" as well :hugs: , you have helped in my journey into modding......the pleasure and pain of it all

I have found some of the best peeps in the world here at my home away from home.


much love
bigcrazewolf

Not leaving till NV till it's patched up to a reasonable level (probably December)

Just wanted to thank all the modders for their amazing work. I've been playing with mods since they came out for Morrowind, and they just keep getting better.

Wish there was a place to support the modders with donations ... like Wikipedia

I gotta go with BCW here.

This is my home, and I just go to Vegas for vacations

Doesn't everyone though?? :shrug:
:P



Thanks guys

Yeah, cheers to everyone on the Fallout 3 mod scene. :foodndrink:

Wanted to upload the list of my currently modded Fallout 3 and say a big thanks to the creators, who made Fallout 3 one of the best games, maybe the best, i've ever played.
Special thanks to FWE creators and the people who helped compiling it, MMM creators and RTS creators.

Wanted also to mention that i played NV and found it so linear, i went to replaying FO3 for a 6th or so time. Mostly cause of these mods


Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
CALIBR.esm
xCALIBR.esm
CRAFT.esm
xCALIBRuniverse.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
CrossModData.esm
Animy_prostitution.esm
sc_lovers_resource.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
RTS NW.esm
EVE.esm
SeducingWomen.esm
TheInstitute.esm
Destruction.esm
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
EnhancedChildren.esm
AliciasCuteShop.esm
Shojo Race.esm
EWE Energy Weapons Enhanced.esm
Mothership Crew.esm
AgeBasedBodys.esm
Malos_Arena_DV.esm
Malos_Arena_EV.esm
Apocalypse Armory.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp
xCALIBRuniverse.esp
xCALIBRuniverse_lite.esp
DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
UPP - Pack 1.esp
UPP - Pack 2.esp
UPP - Original Perks.esp
UPP - Experience Perks.esp
UPP - Quest Perks.esp
UPP - Beverage Perks.esp
Overhead3PCamera.esp
UndergroundHideout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
RTS NW - Volume 1st.esp
RTS NW - Volume 2nd.esp
RTS NW - Volume 3rd.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
WeaponModKits.esp
Playthings.esp
WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
EVE.esp
KillableChildren.esp
KillableChildren - MMM.esp
SeducedDLC03.esp
YearlingsGlasses.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
R18BodyPack.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
ACE2-1b.esp
Destruction - Main - Statics.esp
MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp
MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp
GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp
GalaxyNewsRadio20[M].esp
GalaxyNewsRadio40[M].esp
GalaxyNewsRadio60[M].esp
GalaxyNewsRadio80[M].esp
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp
Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp
Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
Fellout-Full.esp
Fellout-Anchorage.esp
Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp
Fellout-pipboylight.esp
BA_InventorySorterVanilla.esp
Fellout-PointLookout.esp
Fellout-Zeta.esp
BA_InventorySorterBrokenSteel.esp
BA_InventorySorterAnchorage.esp
BA_InventorySorterThePitt.esp
BA_InventorySorterZeta.esp
BA_InventorySorterPointLookout.esp
BA_InventorySorterGOTY.esp
Bottle That Water Alternative - Option B.esp
BossMonsterAddonV3.esp
AliciasCuteShopDoorOverride.esp
Childhood Beginning.esp
Shojo NPC.esp
The Prisoners.esp
TenPennyTowersCasino01.esp
Dree Perks.esp
Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp
Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp
Dree Perks Anchorage.esp
Dree Perks Pitts.esp
Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp
Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp
MiniHideout.esp
WattzLasers.esp
EWE DLC Addon.esp
Cyber-Enhancements.esp
DeadlierExplosiveTraps.esp
NightmareRealm.esp
APReanimated.esp
BC Cloths.esp
A6WastelandBosses1.esp
LJD_ENCLAVE ENABLED MOIRA BROWN.esp
TUPAM.esp
TUPAM - Anchorage Addon.esp
TUPAM - Broken Steel Addon.esp
TUPAM - The Pitt Addon.esp
Forgotten Vault.esp
Apocalypse Armory + EVE.esp
Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp
Apocalypse Armory - xCALIBR.esp
Apocalypse Armory - Optional Historical Names.esp
Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp
Lil_Critters.esp
Lil_Critters_NG.esp
MERGED PATCH.esp

I too am back after FNV i played it once and found it ok i guess . But diddnt want to play it all again to finish all ending . Instead i just went off a save i had made before the Main quest choices were needed. And finished them all that way. And back playing FO3 its a much better game IMO

maybe because NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...> F3?

In a lot of ways I feel that FNV is a superior game, yet at the same time I do find myself yearning for bits of FO3 at times, for a variety of reasons.

That having been said, I suspect that a fair bit of my desire to go back to FO3 is due to a couple of years worth of mods and DLC all tacked on --- because in fairness my mind isn't comparing FNV to FO3... it is comparing 95% vanilla FNV to 95% modded FO3.

I do miss the Capital Wasteland though... it felt much more varied and interesting.

maybe that's a personal, subjective, opinion?


I'm thinking it might be the mountains in NV, they seem to convey a form of claustrophobia -not to mention impracticalities at creating any exterior structures with all the mad verticals everywhere.. it might also be the fact that they put Vegas in the middle, which only allows exploration in circles around the town, which makes you feel like you're walking.. in circles?
-the amount of explorable territory north of Vegas was appallingly little, just a measly strip of land and a house or two.

/2cts

Wow, you can definitely notice it got a lot more quiet on these forums.

True but the faithful are still here :fallout: I will go back and make a mod for FO3....I need to learn scripting :whisper:

bigcrazewolf

True. If you listen closely enough you can hear your own echo. I am however still checking in from time to time, but for the most part the FO3 mods section has turned into a ghost town.

I have not played Vegas myself, Skipped Oblivion, was playing Morrowind while all else was focused there, and would STILL be playing it if it weren't for VATS. Somehow I'm endlessly fascinated with when the bullet or object strikes and the combat sequence takes place. I'm not just popping at figures in a distance, watching them fall, I'm participating in its narrative sequences as well.

It would be well if VATS could come to Morrowind, or Vegas gameplay features can come to FO3 but regrettably, once a game is released, companies have a tendency to move on. The only companies that do not follow this rule and improve the interface and other aspects is with board game classics like Monopoly or something.

All else is left to the modders. Even ONE mod can change the way F03 plays and it becomes another game. I find it incredulous that Seremoth is running all those mods without a CTD slum.

A hearty Thank You Bethesda for allowing a game to be so easily changed!!!

Definitely, but there will still be the faithful left as crazywolf said!!

I'm sure there'll be people who return too after a while. I imagine the Morrowind modding forums would've been pretty quiet in the first weeks after Oblivion's release too.

Thats exactly what I felt too. While I really liked New Vegas and some of the advancements they made, my heart is still with Fallout 3.