Something other than a vague, one-dimensional thread that says "there's too much Fallout in Skyrim" without explaining what exactly that means, justifying the claim with examples of which features are migrating to the series, explaining how that's a bad thing, etc.

There's pretty much nothing Fallout in Skyrim as far as we've been shown. Fallout is post-apocalypse retro-futurism heavily laced with black humor, with a traditional quest/kill-reward XP system, skills boosted by choice on level up, player-set attributes at startup, completely different approach to character interaction from Elder Scrolls, etc. How exactly is there any Fallout in Skyrim? Perks, maybe? The perks that don't work in the same way as Fallout 3 and are tied directly to skills and set up in trees instead of just being free-floating with prerequisites tied most prominently to character level? That's really the only assumption I can make, and to say that's "too much Fallout" is, well... dumb.

Such as?

Before they confirmed that the perks wasn't like Fallouts I was a bit worried, but after they explained it that worry went away.
Also, as many have mentioned, FO3 was TES-ified so I don't really think they can add to much Fallout as lond as they don't make it a tactical game like FO1 and FO2.

One of the other threads on this forum? Ones wondering about what skills will be included, how encumbrance/speed etc. will work now that attributes are out, what kind of dragons you think we'll see? Lots of those topics are discussed repeatedly, but usually with new things being said. I've seen this exact thread title several times now, with the same vapid first post that says absolutely nothing. Seriously, if you're going to talk about something, give other people something to talk about. The reason the other threads died is because they were uninteresting. Just like this one.

It's all this comparing that worries me more than whatever they may nick from FO. They can nick whatever they want as far as I'm concerned and hopefully they'll come up with some game elements that are new and defining to Skyrim, rather than implementing - and some of you wanting them to - something because it's FOish and/or it did work in FO. Please no FO with swords and dragons, although this may be a bit too extremely put. I have a feeling this will cause somehow SK to be less RPGish, as if having training wheels on.

"We aren't making a Fallout game".

Good thing the thread started dared to voice it out. This forum sometimes sound like a dictatorship.

Considering that a lot of the ideas and mechanics in Fallout 3 made their way over from Oblivion....... (in other words, the gamesas developers learned lessons going from Oblivion to Fallout. They are learning further lessons going from Fallout to Skyrim. Evolution, development, etc.)

I feel that they added the things from fallout that were good, like the level scaling being better.

FO4 would be better with dragons and swords. Heck it would be better with magic too!

Well, we already have deathclaws and bladed melee weapons. Although my sarcasm meter nearly exploded for a moment while I read that. Sorry. xD

Nope I like the fact that Skyrim is similar in game design to what Fallout 3 was.

As far as I am concerned, they can take the OB/FO3 open world template they are improving for Skyrim, and make FO4, TES VI, a ninja game, a pirate game, and reboot Call of Cthulhu with it. Oh, and a Syndicate-alike, I would buy them all if they had the same time and effort lavished on them.

How many threads now...

But anyways, OTHER WAY AROUND. THERE WAS TO MUCH OBLIVION IN FALLOUT (still and awesome game though)

Most of fallout's ideas were developed from existing ideas in Oblivion and Morrowind. They evolved to suit the format of gameplay and the setting. Now that they are done with fallout for now, they can take those ideas a step further and let them evolve into something more. Something to suit Skyrim. I say bring on the fallout influence.

I am eagerly awaiting (well, not really) the upcoming "There's too much Skyrim in my Fallout 4!" threads. :whistling:

I never played any of the Fall Out games. Whenever I see someone mention Fall Out in a discussion I typically just hit the back button on my browser and look at a different thread. Although I'm tempted to play Fallout one of these days if I can ever find the complete series. hate watching the fourth season of a show if I missed the third, or watching episodes out of order and then going back and watching them in reverse same thing with games.
I've found most 360 games (my primary game console) are useless to buy after the first month as most of the achievements are not possible unless everyone on your friendslist plays it online, one of my major problems with the games these days like if you pick up an old school game you can play through it and do everything, modern game most of the stuff is locked off if you didn't get it right away so I just skip out buying them completely and spend the cash on something else.

Well would you look at that, irony. :laugh:

@Bethesda, seriously though, keep your damn Elder Scrolls out of Fallout 4. :stare:

You won't miss anything by not having played Fallouts 1 and 2. Fallout 3 is completely different from them kinda like how Oblivion was different from Morrowind although both games have similar gameplay unlike Fallout 3 which is completely different gameplay wise from Fallouts 1 and 2.

Well there were already too much Elder Scrolls in Fallout 3 so...

naw beth keeps learning from the previous games you will likely see some Skyrim in Fallout 4 seeing as Oblivion influenced Fallout 3 in a way. and in return Fallout 3 influenced Skyrim. itll be like leap frog :biggrin:

Actually I don't think there was enough Elder Scrolls in FO3. The Skill system was not well designed and even worse when Beth destroyed what ever balance that game had when they released Broken Steel.

I agree I dont want Fallout in my TES games.

Yeah, we should have guns in Skyrim. Not just things like drewmer guns, but fully automatic weapons, missile launchers, plasma rifles, EMP grenades and .50 AM-SRs. I want to run through the game "hunting" dragons with a 5mm minigun.

I wouldnt go that far
TES is my sword and bow rpg
Fallout is my guns and grenades rpg