H&H Tools Nail Gun Overpenetration

Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:22 am

Just got a dual-headshot on a couple of Jackal Gang members. One VATS burst, two decapitations. Nice. I'm working on a "La Femme Makita" build, a female assassin that only uses power tools, and I have to say I'm very impressed with this weapon so far. When I get all the associated perks for the build (Professional, Better Criticals, Sniper, Just Lucky I'm Alive, etc.) I expect this thing to be a real powerhouse. Anyone else?
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Pumpkin
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:00 pm

Yup, I cleared McCarran easily with that, and I was playing on Very Hard
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Imy Davies
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:54 pm

On paper it is puny, but in practice it is a headshot factory.
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Antony Holdsworth
 
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:16 am

When I first got the gun, I thought it was a joke, or a homage to the railway rifle. when I used after the end of the DLC, some stupid Legion came up to me thinking it was an assassination of me, instead of a massacre of them. so I used the nail gun and I was surprised to find 2 of the 4 scum pinned to the wall. this gun is very good at stopping deathclaws too.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:07 pm

the only downside is that it requires a skill of 75...to use a nail gun WTH!

Edit: but yeah full auto, 90 round magazine and completely silent with the most easily created ammo in the game
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:12 am

the only downside is that it requires a skill of 75...to use a nail gun WTH!

Edit: but yeah full auto, 90 round magazine and completely silent with the most easily created ammo in the game
Skill of 75 to use as a weapon, not to nail boards together.

OT: what other tools are you going to use? Plasma caster? What else?

-Gunny
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:24 am

OT: what other tools are you going to use? Plasma caster? What else?

-Gunny
Honestly I just said "other power tools" to clarify the lame "La Femme Makita" joke. I guess I could use a Chainsaw, but it wouldn't be especially stealthy.

Fake Edit and further Clarification: "La Femme Nikita" being a french film about a female assassin and Makita being a powertool manufacturer.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:23 pm

Skill of 75 to use as a weapon, not to nail boards together.

OT: what other tools are you going to use? Plasma caster? What else?

-Gunny
Thermic lance is a metal cutting tool, don't forget.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Wait, NAIL GUNS PIN PEOPLE TO WALLS!?!?!??!?!?!

This is my new favorite weapon. :fallout: <<<
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:39 am

Wait, NAIL GUNS PIN PEOPLE TO WALLS!?!?!??!?!?!

This is my new favorite weapon. :fallout: <<<
This. I didnt care abot it, seemed crap. But after this I dont care.


Other weapons could be the industrial hand, arc welder and demo charges.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:58 am

This. I didnt care abot it, seemed crap. But after this I dont care.


Other weapons could be the industrial hand, arc welder and demo charges.
Yup, arc welder. Chain saw too, what about a ripper? Were those designed as weapons or meat cutting tools? And did you know that if you toggle tgm, throw demo charges on the ground, pick them back up, they enter your inventory as frag mines?

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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:19 pm

Yup, arc welder. Chain saw too, what about a ripper? Were those designed as weapons or meat cutting tools? And did you know that if you toggle tgm, throw demo charges on the ground, pick them back up, they enter your inventory as frag mines?

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They do that without TGM too.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:16 am

Arc Welder
Nail Gun
Industrial Hand
Compliance Regulator
Dynamite
Long-Fuse Dynamite
C-4
Demolition Charge
Chainsaw
Ripper
Sledgehammer

Are all what I consider industrial weapons. I used the weapon list btw.

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Compliance Regulator because it is used to make people comply. It paralyzes and does such things, so I guess it could be used for construction.

Dynamite(s) because they were used to blow up rocks in the Mojave.

Sledgehammerbecause, well, it's a sledgehammer.
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And industrial character seems very cool....... :shocking:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:26 am

Honestly I just said "other power tools" to clarify the lame "La Femme Makita" joke. I guess I could use a Chainsaw, but it wouldn't be especially stealthy.

Fake Edit and further Clarification: "La Femme Nikita" being a french film about a female assassin and Makita being a powertool manufacturer.
Cattle Prod and Shovel. Technically not power tools, but tools.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:30 am

Cattle Prod and Shovel. Technically not power tools, but tools.
I considered those, but I thought listing the Compliance Regulator was enough of a stretch. :3
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:07 am

It's a shame there's no Auto Axe in Vegas. That could be a fun powertool to use, as well.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:02 pm

It's a shame there's no Auto Axe in Vegas. That could be a fun powertool to use, as well.
I guess that means the normal Fire Axe counts as an industrial weapon? I want to make a list for....extended purposes. I really enjoy the nail gun. I haven't pinned anything to a wall though. It should do more damage though..
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:52 am

It's a shame there's no Auto Axe in Vegas. That could be a fun powertool to use, as well.

Would be nice if they brought back those awesome industrial worker's outfits from The Pitt as well.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:18 am

Would be nice if they brought back those awesome industrial worker's outfits from The Pitt as well.
Well we do have construction hats, and some of the jumpsuits like the lobotomite jumpsuit could look like a manual workers boiler suite.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:19 am

Wait, NAIL GUNS PIN PEOPLE TO WALLS!?!?!??!?!?!

This is my new favorite weapon. :fallout: <<<
It does? Explains why the head I shot off flew a good sistance. :rofl: nothing ever pinned it though...
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:04 am

So, you're saying that the nails pass through people? I can see that they would if they had sufficient velocity, as nails have awesome sectional density (length to weight and diameter).

I'm wondering though, how come stuff like .308 and .50 AP doesn't go through people if nails do? Even basic .50 will go through a few people with ease, and .308 AP should do similar.

Did you perhaps fire two shots instead of one at two people lined up?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 10:31 pm

One burst. Could be there were strays, but it was point blank.

One other thing I love about the nail gun is that the projectiles have - 5 DT.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:18 pm

So, you're saying that the nails pass through people? I can see that they would if they had sufficient velocity, as nails have awesome sectional density (length to weight and diameter).

I'm wondering though, how come stuff like .308 and .50 AP doesn't go through people if nails do? Even basic .50 will go through a few people with ease, and .308 AP should do similar.

Did you perhaps fire two shots instead of one at two people lined up?
That is possible, but the nailgun seems to just punch through. It does have the highest rate of fire for a 1 handed gun, however, and combined with the minor armor peircing effect, high Critical multiplier and cheap cost and ease of acquireing the ammmo, make the nailgun a horrifically powerful little sidearm.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:53 pm

And bonus limb damage! I love this gun!
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 10:32 pm

I have mixed feelings about the nailgun. It's tremendously powerful, yes. Kind of obscenely powerful considering that it's an unmodified improvised weapon that needs no external power source of any kind to propel a storm of nails at deadly speeds. Silently, no less! You'd think if old-world weapons had these kind of infinite batteries in them, the militaries would never fool around with weapons that eat bulky complex cartridges or power cells.

But the DLC doesn't really give me a chance to apply it. The marked men are far better off taken down with sniper rifles given how often they have sniper rifles of their own, or incinerators, or high end melee weapons. And the deathclaws and tunnelers had such a stupid amount of hitpoints that the only thing that really put any dent in them was my machine gun (tunnelers) or shotgun (deathclaws). Where the nail gun is most effective is, as with most SMGs, at short range on lightly armored enemies. If you take this weapon into some place like NCRCF or the Fiend vault it is scary-effective.

So. Implausibly good weapon for what it's supposed to be, and mostly the wrong choice for the tactical situations encountered in LR.
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