there are a lot of good players in RAW i can tell u that we use double melee only only against who does and D4rK is not a bad clan they are very very talented mainly danmay wavykid conan and of course enesrko and even if he is with them he dosn't glitch(he don't need to cause he s talented)
i want really that RAW play against D4rk

f*u*c*k I'm a player xbox 360 and I saw the video of danmay and tinanux and for me is better danmay

bravooo smart kid

I don't double melee. I was double meleed by a RAW.

I am sure it started out that way - only melee glitching those that do it to you* first. I've seen players go down that road and it is a very slippery slope. At first, it's just glitching those that glitch you. But what's this? They're still faster than you*? Must practice the melee glitch to become faster so you can beat them! But you can't just practice melee glitch on them, they're too fast! You* can go into a private match with friends, but where's the fun in that? No... you* go practice on the newbs! Then you* get faster with glitch. Then you* play against originals who melee glitched you! But now you* can't stop because it's muscle memory now.

It is dangerous.

*Not you personally, RAW guy. Just a generalization.

Jade i'm no longer part of dark, so i can't participate on the match. As far for the battle between dark and mad the outcome is more than clear, dark is going to win there's no doubt in that, to be honest i don't think the battle will ever happen. Fishbowie your comment is very true, raw has some players that do glitch without reason at all, but you need to learn how to overcome it. Yes i was part of dark, but during my stay i was probably the only member not using double melee. I have faced some raw players that do their little glitch out of desperation, but still pathetically fail to beat me. If you don't believe me ask enersko, he was getting pissed at the dude because that was all he was doing. Raw has some good and respectable players, but the time to face dark is not the time. After what i saw conan do to a clan the other night............ that was some crazy stuff. Yes he might of been using glitch melee but to beat almost a full clan and get 40+ kills well what more can i say. Dark has become the biggest monopoly in the ps3 community, many will disagree all they want, and post as many replies to my msg stating otherwise with in depth explanations, but down inside their little swollen hearts they know is true.

I played against enesrko123 few days ago and he is definitely the best player of Crysis 2 that I've faced. Never use melee glitch and is always shooting accurately. I felt extremely unable to defeat him even with him playing fairly.

About RAW vs D4rK, I've never played a clan battle but I still think D4rK is at a higher level, but it would be interesting to test our skills.

You're absolutely right, riche. I don't play nearly as much as I used to and with the next crysis right around the corner I don't see the point of adapting around something that will be absent from the next release, but you're right about changing playstyles to accomodate. Dark does seem to have a monopoly in this game but I can't say that it will remain that way in crysis 3.

This might just be me but I find it very hard to respect someone's skill in this game if they use the melee glitch in public lobbies. If they want to do a private match or even get a group of 12 together and go crazy with the glitch in a public match, good on them. It doesn't affect anyone but them, they're choosing to stay in the game with the glitchers. Everyone else... well what can I say? It's frustrating. I respect those that can get 40+ kills without the glitch.

Enesrko123, flywheelem3, richestrawart616, A3rdson, Brethrenpro. Those are the top players.. IMO. Mainly because that dont need double melee to beat someone and still score high.

I completely agree fish, but the lag the game suffers is pretty pathetic. I got to play against mad today, but trying to kill someone who is teleporting everywhere in the map is really hard. One thing that i really enjoy from the 360 version is that the lobbies stay local, unlike the ps3 which get people from all sort of places and creates a big laggy match which makes it unplayable. Leon, enesrko is a very aggressive player, when facing people like him you have to be very patient and wait for them to make the first move. Second of all, dark and raw had some practice matches where dark won every single game. Raw is a good team but you all need to be like the rest of the clans like iso, dark, mad, etc where all of them play as a group and learn how to be one. Patience is the primary skill you need to master for this game, but unfortunately many decide to give up, and start accusing good players of hacking, and throwing a fit like a small child. Phattoni thank you for the mention, i really appreciate it.

Guys why flywheelem? He wasn't even that good... And WHY THE **** IS ENES D4rK? --'

Guys why flywheelem? He wasn't even that good... And WHY THE **** IS ENES D4rK? --'better than you and Im D4rK you motherlover

Well.. This thread ended up being friendly lol..

friendly ? never...

LoL!

I think its very funny that people call my clan "glitchers" when only one or two people in my clan use it. Likewise, there is other clans that have twice as more glitching players than me, and depend on that to win. Legit right?

Riche: I understand about the lag problems. Hopefully this is something they have taken into consideration for this third installment. Tired of the red bars, tired of the teleporting, tired of the migration.

Manstee: It would be 100xs better if no one in your clan (or any clan for that matter) glitches. Though you have been practising your aim and probably rarely use it anymore as long as crysis 2 is still active dark will be known for its glitches. At least to those who choose not to use it. I'm sorry about that, it must be frustrating. Better luck in Crysis3.

MAD and o.O are worst than D4rK for sure, like manstee said they depend on it to win. Truthfully melee and explosive kills are the easiest way to kill. Melee has always been overpowered even before the glitch. Two quick punches to kill versus 20 or more bullets. Its pretty ridiculous, same with people getting saved by standing next to a wall and not being able to get punched. XD

Bananas are naturally slightly radioactive.

If you must hate, then don't hate clans, hate individuals. Generalizing is how racism started, you know.

I never cared about clans, and I probably never will.
You need to always play well to keep your rep up, and anybody who sees your tag will make assumptions that may not even be true.
Just like how when any player sees D4rK, they assume that player will use a feline and double melee. At least that's the impression they've made on me. Cause we never see you guys playing at less than 100%. You're always "Look, red dot on the corner of the map! go! kills!"

How people only use the most powerful and glitched guns all day is shocking. I mean, are they even having fun?

I used to play to win, and honestly, I was never more on-edge in my entire life. You know that moment when you're so into the game that you're dodging the bullets in real life too? That was me, and if I died more than once, I'd get frustrated. If the same guy killed me twice? MOVE AWAY FROM THE SCREEN MOM, SH*T JUST GOT SERIOUS.

But it was serious. It was serious all the time, and that's why I didn't have much fun. If you clan members enjoy playing seriously all the time, then great. You're lucky.

As for me, taking it seriously just isn't fun. So take your high K/D's and killstreaks somewhere else. Competition isn't my thing.

If you must hate, then don't hate clans, hate individuals. Generalizing is how racism started, you know.all weapon is powerfull

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It only takes three hornets to completely wipe out a colony of three thousand bees.

1-manstee don't say that only 2 or 3 of yours clan members glitch i know all of them they all glitch and for me it s not a problem i like playing against who are more talented than me and to tell you the truth it's thanks to D4rk that i become a good player and concerning RAwvs D4rk it will good for us to test our skills if we play against u guys
2- flywheelem stop glitching i thought that you didin't use it
3- enesrko bro never care about all what they tell you are talented bro
4- richestewart what did conan do last time ?
5-LeonAugusto23 conserning D4rk they are better than us but we can win don't make D4rk as invisible
be sure guys the next crysis gonna be 10x time better than crysis 2

Jade_r01, in my opinion the best way to test our skills is more playing time together, we have many members and I think I do not know all, many are new. I always try to do that and play with my teammates.

I also think that we should not act like the other clans and go around using melee glitch. Sometimes I used it against some clans but honestly, after all I thought was a waste of time and stopped this. We can show that we are good without the use of it, otherwise we will have no respect for anyone.

My top 5.

1. DanMay16
2. enesrko123
3. Plushies2
4. SdA_BlackDevil / xXFurY_DeviLXx [MAD]
5. manstee

My Top 5:

D4rK enesrko123
HAKR Plushies 2
ISO BrethrenPro
APEX SOLIDER-ELITE
OUCH Ollygixxer