I prefer to think of it as "naturally grouchy."



"I'm glad you changed your last name, you son of a..."



"They've killed Fritz!! Those lousy stinking yellow fairies!! Those horrible atrocity-filled vermin!!"

:cough: Okay, I'm better now.

Better than what, I don't know...

I voted guns. It just wouldn't be the Elder Scrolls with guns. Save game erasure on death is tied with it.

Save game erasure [censored] angband pissed me off

I voted guns as well. Sure, guns would be fun as a mod when you're bored, so you can run around Skyrim shooting dragons with an M4A1 or something, but having any sort of guns in the vanilla game, even a blunderbuss, just makes it un-TES for me. I hope the Industrial Revolution never comes to Nirn.

Guns would be part of the game - save erasure would be optional. So, /vote Guns

I've been thinking the same thing. I usually play TES games together with a friend, as it's so much more fun for us to explore the world together, solve puzzles and try to find quest items. As it is now, only one can play while the other can only watch and comment. I think it would be really cool to have some kind of co-op mode. Sure, I absolutely agree that a TES MMO would be a nightmare, but seriously, what would be wrong with that kind of co-op that allows two people to join forces? That would also allow for some interesting teams, for example a warrior and a mage. I'd like that very much, personally.

What I would definitely NOT like is save game erasure on death. What a terrible thought! No more jumping down Dive Rock for fun! :tongue:

Multi-player. Because guns could rather easily be modded out. Multi-player wouldn't.

Oh my... just to even hear of some of these ideas makes me cringe...
But from worse idea to worst I'd place that at...


10.Save Points
9.1:1 Timescale
8.Starting as a Child
7.Multi-Player
6.3D
5.Guns
4.Save Game Erasure on Death
3.Simulated Bodily Functions
2.Motion Control
1.Game Has an Ending

Dragon mounts. I've been worried ever since the trailer was released about this. I like TES because it's unique, but they set Oblivion in middle earth and now there might be dragons hiding around every corner. Why don't we just introduce dwarves (proper dwarves with beards and hammers, not interesting extinct giants with a clockwork fetish) in the next game and have done with it.

Multiplayer like Fable 3 would be great and I'd quite like save game erasure on death. I often play to that rule anyway.

Gah! I cant chose! Propably guns or the game having an ending. Or maybe dragon mounts.. Eww... Or maybe something else... :/

Despite how bad many of the ideas listed are, I had to vote for the greatest sacrilege of all - the mere utterance of which sends a shiver of the dread mortality of linearity down one's spine-

The game has an ending.

For me it is a tie between Guns and No saves death. Guns would ruin atmosphere and I usually die a lot from just jumping around. :facepalm:

Well that would skew the results and defeat the purpose of building a TOP TEN based on how the community feels.

Wow, guns are just murdering everything else.

Well I've seen far worse ideas on these forum. Like going to the bathroom, or that you should wash yourself to avoid smelling bad. Those are probably the worst ideas I heard here, but an ending game, guns and having children are also a terrible ideas.

Simulated bodily functions=going to the bathroom

3. Dragon Mounts
2. Guns
1. Multiplayer

:D

Saying "No to 3D" is like saying "No to color" or "No to Antialliasing". If really it hurts you that much, don't activate the 3D mode and leave it for the people that got the material to make good use of it

-1 Game Has an Ending
-2 1:1 Timescale
-3 Starting as a Child
-4 Save Points
-5 Save Game Erasure on Death
-6 Simulated Bodily Functions
-7 Multi-Player
-8 Guns
-9 3D
-10 Motion Control

#1: Save Game Erasure on Death
This would be way too annoying and there's so many reasons why this would only make the game worse.

#2: Motion Control
Why would I want to wave my arms all over the place when a keyboard is perfectly fine? No thanks.

#3: Simulated Bodily Functions
Why would I want to watch my character take a crap? It's just one of those things you don't need to see happen on screen. You know it's going on - that's enough. Just imagine that's what your PC does when you use the wait function.
I wouldn't exactly protest if it was in the game -- but I certainly wouldn't think "Wow, that's exactly what this game needed. Poop." (without being sarcastic)

#3: Dragon Mounts
About as ridiculous as the poop -- maybe even more so. They're not mounts -- they're not even domesticated !

#4: Stereoscopic 3D
As it is now, it only detracts from the gaming experience for me. The lower graphics quality certainly wouldn't be appreciated. Ask me again in five years -- maybe the tech is good enough then to have in a TES game.

#5: Save Points
A bit annoying, but not as annoying as #1. What if you're caught in a glitch and it's been a long time since the last Save Point? What if you wanna smack that ugly Argonian in the face, just to see what happens -- only for experimentation -- but you'd have to replay the last 30 minutes afterwards? I'd rather save whenever I want to -- then I can do whatever I want whenever -- which is a lot of the fun in TES for me.

#6: Having Children
If the possibility was there, I wouldn't use it. The NPC children probably wouldn't be implemented any better than any other NPC, so not good enough, and I wouldn't feel a personal connection to them. Besides, I've got better things to do than taking care of kids.

#7: Multi-Player
Don't really want it -- and would only accept it if it was like a Co-op mode where the extra character would have to be created for that 'world' only -- you couldn't bring any character from one game to another, or item or whatever for that sake. There'd be the main character and his side-kick, and they'd have to share the world, quests, kills, items, everything.

#8: Game Has an Ending
Would kinda svck, but not as much as the points above. You could just avoid finishing the main quest. Only way it would be further up on my list would be if there was like a time limit on finishing the MQ -- so if you didn't save the world within 100 days, it's game over. That would svck.

#9: Guns
No way I want this -- but didn't put it further up because -- like, if there's only one dwemer blunderbuss with like 5 bullets, that wouldn't ruin the game -- but if guns were made a major part of gameplay.... that's not how I want my Elder Scrolls.

#10: Starting As a Child
Well, it worked for Fallout, so I don't see how it couldn't work for TES also. It's not exactly on the wish list though, and I'd rather just start in prison as usual.

#11: 1:1 Timscale
This wouldn't be bad at all, actually. I often play with timescale set to 1:1 and like it that way. Would be much worse if it stayed at 1:30.


edit: oh, there's two 1s in 11?

1-10 spears

What?? I dont like an elder scroll with an ending!

Start like a children maybe be good if you have to do some important desitions on the game (like biography on Daggerfall). Maybe they can do it better if that desition are reflected in all the game.

Some of these things sound OK, to be honest:

1:1 timescale is better than 1:30. I like about 1:6, so that you can experience a full game day in about an evening's playing, but see no reason for time to move faster than that.

Save game deletion upon death would be cool as an OPTION, and there's no way this would ever be forced upon everyone, so that's a non-issue.

Primitive guns (with very slow reload) could make sense 200 years after Oblivion. Maybe magic use has become less widespread for some reason.

3D for those who want it wouldn't hurt... isn't it basically just an extra shader or something? 3D gives me a headache, but sopme people like it.

Simulated bodily functions could be read as 'the need to eat and drink', which I would actually like. I have no desire to be forced to go for a poo in-game, though. But there should be outhouses in Skyrim. I'm guessing constipation must have been a huge issue for people in Cyrodiil, which possibly explains some of the facial expressions.

Dragon mount depends totally on the context. But OK; there are many, many, many ways to do it wrong.

A definite ending is fine by me, it gives more of an oppurtunity to describe huge consequences of your actions. Morrowind, Oblivion and FO3 (post-DLC) all felt a bit flat after completing the main quest, because the world never really changes. Best of all would be continuing after the main quest in a world that is really drastically changed, though...

I'm gonna vote 'save points', can't stand the things. For me, saving is something that happens outside the 'narrative' of the game... it's more like pausing a movie.

Make it a Multiple-Choice... Every option svcked donkey balls.

If by 1:1 time scale you mean that it corresponds to the real time of day the game's being played, then that'd be my most disliked on the list. IF it's 1 sec. : 1 sec. then that's OK, and my substitute is Save Game ersure.

Although the majority of this list appears to be right in saying bad ideas, 3D is a mixed bag. I'm sure many would welcome it.

For me it's guns!