Well, you're welcome to that opinion. I was trying to make a point using the .45 to illustrate it, but I guess I failed. I was wondering, though. Since this is obviously a favorite weapon of yours, how were you introduced to it and what are your experiences with it? Have you had a chance to shoot one? Have you been able to shoot other related weapons? I'm interested in why a lot of people insist that this precise weapon is the one in the game. I don't mean this to sound trite. I'm actually interested.

chill. point taken...

Well it's not one of mine, but every gun has a fan boy, personally I like the P90, haven't ever shot 1 in rl, but from what I understand about it it's got a obscene rate of fire, manageable recoil, and the biggest adv is that you can see how many rounds you got left, thanks to the opaque top mount gravity mag.

As for the ak. Well I am a little mad at China right now for manipulating currency - that's completely unrelated I suppose lol...

I dont know, I would prefer a Russian made gun over a Chinese made 1 anyway.

I voted Yes, the AK-47 is a very reliable and durable gun, it can fire when soaked in water, I have even seena show where they cram mud into all the holes and it still fired just fine. I am sure it could survive a nuclear holocaust. :vaultboy:

And there are a lot of them, so even if only half of the supply survived, there'd still be plenty.

As for favorite weapon, I do love the AK, but I'm pretty much speaking for a friend of mine who is very very into AK-47s

the chineese assault rife was not a Kalashnikov. i love ak-47's. the chineese assault rifle sounded like a [censored] gun.. the ak47 sounds mean as hell. ak's arent CHINEESE for one, they are russian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 <---- here read up.

Speaking seriously, try them out. Go to the range with him and shoot one (if you haven't) and shoot other rifles if possible. All this assuming you know AND understand all the basic rules of handling and operating a firearm safely.

I never really liked the AK47, and given the opportunity to shoot one at the range I'm a member at, it confirmed my suspicions. I was not impressed by it at all. Aside from the massive bolt flying back and forth, I despised the sights. Very short sight radius, and the blade sights were just about useless to me. My outdoor range is only 25 yards, so yea you're going to hit what you're aiming for most of the times anyway with that gun. I usually don't form spoken opinions unless if I own or have shot the gun of the topic, which is why I'm usually not budging into all the Desert Eagle debate. If you ask me what shotgun I prefer, I'd say a Mossberg 500 because I own two of them and love 'em. Ask me about a Remington 870, and I can't tell you anything but pure speculation on my part.


Remaining on topic: Since there is an M4 or M4 style rifle in the game, I will use that regardless if any AK type rifle is in the game. I rarely even used the Chinese Assault Rifle in F3.

that is true there is no way to compare the awsomeness of the AK to a chinese assualt rifle anyway there was a future ak in one of the fallouts i cant remember which one. the [censored]y chinese rifle uses 5.56mm while ak uses 7.62x39mm which is a MASSIVE shift in damage AK FTW! :gun: :ninja: :drool:

As for all of the comments above my eyes have been opened to new versions of the ak. As for the AKM.. i personally love russian anything. (except cars) one of my favorite things about the ak is its ymbolistic nature. im not a communist by any means but i am a bit into revolution. i personally dont know much about an ak but i still love the gun.. call me arrogant. i dont care. im just throwing out my opinion.. and throwing this out there... the m14 is a crazy good rifle. hella accurate and very reliable. but the ak's symbolism sets its self higher in my opinion.

This is said friend

Considering EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE uses the AK-47, and the fact that the better-produced models (not those used by those ****ty 'freedom fighting' terrorrists) are nearly indestructable, the AK-47 absolutely needs to be in FO.

The whole ammo situation would svck, though. No other gun I know of uses the same caliber round. This could, however, make using the AK a rare thing of beauty, as every round you fire could be considered a treat in itself.

I also really like the idea of having AK 100-series guns, which could be kind of like cheap assault rifles that get the job done early on. But having one unique AK-47 in the game as an artifact. Find it, use it, be feared for it.

The AK may not be on top of everybody's Top Ten list 'O guns, but it is in their and it's one of the only modern guns that still fit the Fallout Canon. I would love to have a P90, but that a'int happenin'. The M1911, the M14, the Browning Hi-Power.

The M1911 fits because it was first adopted in 1911. The Browning Hi-Power fit's because it was first adopted in 1935. The M14 may fit, because it was firrst adopted in 1957. The M14 my not fit to well though.

AK 47 is over rated, no respectable army uses it today. The Russians moved onto the AK74 a long time ago in case you don`t know. The Chinese have thier own crazy modded version. The only places you can find them being used by a combat force are in 3rd world countries.
But then again with Americas hard on for the gun, finding it wouldn`t be hard.

i would love to see all those guns in NV great post :tops: and yes the ak is on my favourite top ten gun but it would be awsome to have ak in NV even if it was call russian assualt rifle :goodjob:

You must remember that this game doesn't understand terminal ballistics. I could go into geck right now and change the Chinese rifles ammo to 10mm and make the damage over 9000! The only reason it shoots 5.56 in the game is because the developers wanted to keep the ammo simple. It has no effect on the weapons damage, as that is controlled by a separate variable. On a side note, I wouldn't consider the 7.62 a MASSIVE shift in damage over the 5.56. I think you've been watching the military channel too much. ^_^

Actually its not and exact copy, for some unknow reason the chinese made the sight fully enclosed why with the russian guns they sights arn't. The sights in the game are from the russian rifle
Performance wise in real life i dont think anyone bar a gunsmith could propbably see the difference, of course ignoring things like the sights etc, and awful lot of the first chinese type 56's actually came with a kinda switch bayonet attached but it looked more like a needle than a real bayonet.

On another note on the matter of ammo, of my simple civillian understanding didnt the larger AK47 just leave blast holes, wile the smaller M16 rounds actually more often left shrapnel inside the target, which is actually more deadly. Or have i been watching too much history channel?

If the AK-112 is considered outdated even before the war in 2077, then the AK-47 would be considered ancient! Maybe you could find one in a museum of old weapons (dunno if there are any museums in Vegas) or it's the weapon of a mafia bos or some other powerful dude, who you gotta kill, pickpocket or do work for to obtain it... But I'd rather see that for a tommy gun.

This is a wiki answer that explained better then I can...



So basically if they put this gun (m16) in the bullets should do lot's of damage, because it it a "early model" m16.

As for the Ak rounds, yes bigger holes, not a whole lot bigger, but bigger.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080728001644/fallout/images/9/99/FO1_Vault_Dwellers.jpg

if you want to get technical the AK was in FO3 as the chinese AR, it wasnt entirley replicated but the CAR was definantley based off it the two are very similar

i never rally like AK's though, i quite happy to see an M4 or what loks like one in screens now all we need is an MP5 and an R700

It's not hard to tell where an AK is from. Even if you knew nothing about guns, you can usually identify its origins based on the markings. For instance, I know my SKS is from china because it has Chinese writing on it. As for the bayonets, they are spike bayonets. They put them on later models of their SKS's too. I'm not sure why they switched from the blade type, but I'm guessing it was because its cheaper and/or easier to manufacturer. They have a chisel like tip though, and probably penetrate just as well as the blade type too.

any AK would be great in fallout and the unique verison could be gold plated

And a gold Deagle too. And an RPD. And an Uzi.