6÷2(1+2) : Othor Games

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:18 pm

But....It doesn't.

*searches on google*

Oh. :facepalm:

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:37 am

6 divided by 2 equals 3.

3 times 3 is 9.

Or am I doing something wrong?

You're right.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:22 pm

You're right.

I have no clue what all this controversy is then. Seems like a simple Elementary problem to me.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:50 pm

I saw this debate get drawn out for a VERY long time on another webpage. People on both sides of the issue were claiming to be good at math or math majors..

So, the extremely controversial math equation is: 6÷2(1+2)

I personally think it is 9, and my TI-84 agrees with me. But there were 'experts' strongly defending the idea that the answer was 1. So, what do you guys think?

Ya the ultimate problem is the the parenthetical notation, but between the parenthetical notation and the 6 divided by 2. At that point many follow the PEMDAS rule where they would times the 3 to the 2 = 6 and divide 6 by 6 to equal 1. Others on the other hand are following the 2 step method *think that's it* where they do the Parenthesis problem first then the division problem coming back to it doing the 3x3 = 9.

I can see both sides personally and really I don't know who I would want to side with. Following the PEMDAS rules of the "Whole" problem I would say 1, but if I do the 2 step pass method I would say 9.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:49 am

Divide possum by peas then add sunglasses to possum to get the answer blurple berry. Then multiply this by Chuck Norris which equals a round house kick to the face.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:53 pm

I saw this debate get drawn out for a VERY long time on another webpage. People on both sides of the issue were claiming to be good at math or math majors..

I call BS

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:58 pm

Divide possum by peas then add sunglasses to possum to get the answer blurple berry. Then multiply this by Chuck Norris which equals a round house kick to the face.

And you get 42.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:32 am

I call BS

No smurf.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:48 pm

No [censored].

Shouldn't you say, "No Smurf"?

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:31 pm

And the people who think I am wrong per se are wrong per se. :shrug:

And that's perfectly fine. The fact of the matter is there seems to be quite a division here due to some break down in the educational system. Otherwise everyone would just have said 9 and this wouldn't even be open for debate.

I don't approach lawyers and say things like "perhaps that law was never actually written in the first place and should just be ignored, I mean, can you prove that it was indeed written when they claim it was and that they didn't just add it in because they thought it was fun, huh?" By extension, if people say stuff like this when I am around and consistently don't listen to people who know what they're talking about, expect nothing less of me but to get upset.

lol you'd be surprised that actually happens.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:28 am

Following the PEMDAS rules...

Once again, even PEMDAS states "multiplication and division". I.e., they have the same priority.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:55 pm

Ya the ultimate problem is the the parenthetical notation, but between the parenthetical notation and the 6 divided by 2. At that point many follow the PEMDAS rule where they would times the 3 to the 2 = 6 and divide 6 by 6 to equal 1. Others on the other hand are following the 2 step method *think that's it* where they do the Parenthesis problem first then the division problem coming back to it doing the 3x3 = 9.

I can see both sides personally and really I don't know who I would want to side with. Following the PEMDAS rules of the "Whole" problem I would say 1, but if I do the 2 step pass method I would say 9.

It seems the problem is following PEMDAS/PEDMAS/BEMDAS/BEDMAS religiously and not anolytically thinking. 2(3) is 2*3. You don't just do that part of the problem only because it's next to a parenthesis. That makes it (2(3)) or (2*3) and ignores the fact that multiplication and division are equal in precedence in a problem, meaning you do 6/2 before multiplying by 3. There has to be an extra reason to multiply by 3 first and ignoring the division sign beforehand, and the preceding acronyms do not justify it. I'm not a math wiz at all and I understand this.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:24 pm

Shouldn't you say, "No Smurf"?

You're right. My apologies.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:43 pm

And this is how wars start.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:30 pm

this wouldn't even be open for debate.

Last time I checked, the "laws" of 1st grade arithmetic were still not open for debate

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:19 pm

Ya the ultimate problem is the the parenthetical notation, but between the parenthetical notation and the 6 divided by 2. At that point many follow the PEMDAS rule where they would times the 3 to the 2 = 6 and divide 6 by 6 to equal 1. Others on the other hand are following the 2 step method *think that's it* where they do the Parenthesis problem first then the division problem coming back to it doing the 3x3 = 9.

I can see both sides personally and really I don't know who I would want to side with. Following the PEMDAS rules of the "Whole" problem I would say 1, but if I do the 2 step pass method I would say 9.

Actually, the people getting 1 aren't following PEMDAS correctly, since under PEMDAS multiplication and division should be done left to right, so that when PEMDAS is used correctly you divide 6/2 before you use the 3 from the parenthesis for multiplication.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:21 pm

I hate math. That is all.

Actually, it isn't. Where would an equation like this even be applicable?

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:20 pm

Last time I checked, the "laws" of 1st grade arithmetic were still not open for debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJiYrRcfQo&feature=related

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:19 pm

6÷2(1+2) is either 6/(2(1+2)) or (6/2)(1+2). These equal 1 and 9 respectively. There's no conclusive answer because of the bad syntax in "6÷2(1+2)". Whenever I write out any mathematical equation, I always use parenthesis wherever they're needed to avoid this kind of confusion. Especially on the Internet.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:27 am

Let me just interject and say if this reaches the post limit I'm going to laugh my [censored] ass off.

If you svck at math that bad, use a calculator. If you use a calculator, the answer is 9.

Parethesis
Exponents
Multipcation and Division - done left to right
Addition and Subtraction - done left to right

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:26 pm

Let me just interject and say if this reaches the post limit I'm going to laugh my [censored] ass off.

If you svck at math that bad, use a calculator. If you use a calculator, the answer is...

Imma let you finish, but... 1 is the greatest number of all time!!

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:54 am

6÷2(1+2) is either 6/(2(1+2)) or (6/2)(1+2). These equal 1 and 9 respectively. There's no conclusive answer because of the bad syntax in "6÷2(1+2)". Whenever I write out any mathematical equation, I always use parenthesis wherever they're needed to avoid this kind of confusion. Especially on the Internet.

It's not bad syntax, it's proper syntax. Redundant parenthesis are not proper. There is only one way to properly interpret the given computation, and adding any more parenthesis would either change the meaning, or be redundant.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:52 pm

If you svck at math that bad, use a calculator. If you use a calculator, the answer is 9.

My casio gives me a 1. :laugh: (yes scientific calculator)

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:40 pm

Last time I checked, the "laws" of 1st grade arithmetic were still not open for debate

lol

Last time I checked, it's being debated right now (and the debate is not limited to the gamesas forums either).

Anyways last reply and I'm going back to lurking. If you say that the answer is 9 that's fine, I can clearly understand why and how it came out to that conclusion. If others say 1, I can understand that as well.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:26 pm

Let me just interject and say if this reaches the post limit I'm going to laugh my [censored] ass off.

I'm going to weep my smurf off for future of our civilization