6÷2(1+2) : Othor Games

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:36 pm

This is starting to remind me of a war where people who believed in a different answer to things would kill each other over a minor error or misunderstanding forgotten long ago. The zealots who believed their way was the only true and right way and those who thought differently and wanted a different answer opposed them.

In the end its not whose answer was right but the fact that people couldn't get along with one another who had different outcomes. It led to destruction and bigotry that would continue for ages leading to even more conflicts.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:45 pm

Actually, the people getting 1 aren't following PEMDAS correctly, since under PEMDAS multiplication and division should be done left to right, so that when PEMDAS is used correctly you divide 6/2 before you use the 3 from the parenthesis for multiplication.

But if you weigh multiplication by juxtaposition higher than regular multiplication (which can and has been done), then you do get 1. The problem is in the equation having more than one way of looking at it.

In the case of ambiguity I would personally say it's 9, but the people who are saying that it's 1 are not entirely wrong either, unless someone can show me concrete proof that putting multiplication by juxtaposition higher in the order of operations is wrong. (By that I mean an actual proof, not "It's wrong because my teacher told me so").

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:38 pm

Imma let you finish, but... 1 is the greatest number of all time!!

Correction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiKcd7yPLdU

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:46 pm

It's not bad syntax, it's proper syntax. Redundant parenthesis are not proper. There is only one way to properly interpret the given computation, and adding any more parenthesis would either change the meaning, or be redundant.

Whenever the equation is written in such a way that one can't see where an operator begins and ends, I'd say it's bad.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:57 pm

Last time I checked, it's being debated right now (and the debate is not limited to the gamesas forums either).

Oh really? Is this debate lead by actual mathematicians and, if it is, would you mind pointing me to the source of your information? I have a university degree in mathematics and I have never heard of such a debate.

edit:

Whenever the equation is written in such a way that one can't see where an operator begins and ends, I'd say it's bad.

If an expression (or an equation) is written properly (which this one is) and one can't see where an operator begins and ends, I'd say that the one svcks at maths.

edit 2:

In the case of ambiguity I would personally say it's 9, but the people who are saying that it's 1 are not entirely wrong either, unless someone can show me concrete proof that putting multiplication by juxtaposition higher in the order of operations is wrong. (By that I mean an actual proof, not "It's wrong because my teacher told me so").

It's wrong because the rules of mathematics clearly state that multiplication and division have the same priority and if they're both encountered on the same parenthesis-level they're to be done left-to-right.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:14 pm

But if you weigh multiplication by juxtaposition higher than regular multiplication (which can and has been done), then you do get 1. The problem is in the equation having more than one way of looking at it.

In the case of ambiguity I would personally say it's 9, but the people who are saying that it's 1 are not entirely wrong either, unless someone can show me concrete proof that putting multiplication by juxtaposition higher in the order of operations is wrong. (By that I mean an actual proof, not "It's wrong because my teacher told me so").

VEENO, I CHOOSE YOU! *Throws Veeno poke-ball

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:44 pm

people who are saying that it's 1 are not entirely wrong either, unless someone can show me concrete proof

holy jeebus have you read any of the previous pages?

the proof is use your troubled eyes to see which operation is left most. that's where you start multiplication and division operations (left to right)

first - inside parentheses: 1 + 2
second - leftmost mulitplication/division operation: 6 / 2
last: subsequent multiplication/division operation: 3 * 3

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:53 pm

If you follow order of operations correctly, you should always get 9.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:47 am

It's 9, order of ops says so.

Also iGuess said it's 9, sooooo..... Yeah.

Actually, I take that back. 6/2(1+2)=MLP (My Little Pony).

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:56 pm

This?...a carrot stalker perhaps? :blink:

*cough cough* 9. If I'm not wrong: the (1+2) comes first so it's actually 6 : 2 x 3. Then what comes first is done first, so it's 3 x 3, which is 9.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:38 am

VEENO, I CHOOSE YOU! *Throws Veeno poke-ball

Already done.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:13 pm

6÷2(1+2) is either 6/(2(1+2)) or (6/2)(1+2). These equal 1 and 9 respectively.

This is correct. It all comes down to the ( )s :yes:

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:40 pm

I got 9 using BEDMAS...

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:46 am

This is correct. It all comes down to the ( )s :yes:

Here we go again. Looks frantically to the horizon for the vast and hateful shape known as Veeno.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:21 am

Here we go again. Looks frantically to the horizon for the vast and hateful shape known as Veeno.

Nah.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:32 pm

I dont know how PEMDAS
Please
Excuse
My
Dumb
Ass
Sister

can solve problems but it does :thumbsup:

~~and i change my answer to 1.~~
i keed

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:45 pm

Some of you throw parentheses around like they mean nothing. :verymad:

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:01 pm

Some of you throw parentheses around like they mean nothing. :verymad:

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:16 pm

Some of you throw parentheses around like they mean nothing. :verymad:

So true it had to be said twice. See? I used math.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:57 pm

holy jeebus have you read any of the previous pages?

the proof is use your troubled eyes to see which operation is left most. that's where you start multiplication and division operations (left to right)

first - inside parentheses: 1 + 2
second - leftmost mulitplication/division operation: 6 / 2
last: subsequent multiplication/division operation: 3 * 3

I have, but multiplication by juxtaposition as in 3(2) versus 3*2 has been valued differently in the order of operations in my experience. With the former being higher than the latter, and the latter being on par with division and read left to right (obviously).

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:34 pm

actually, if you put the equation into google, it comes out as 9.
google tells no lies :bowdown:

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:17 pm

Here we go again. Looks ~~frantically~~ hopefully to the horizon for the ~~vast and hateful~~ shape known as Veeno.

Fixed.

Veeno is now officially my hero.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:02 pm

Fixed.

Veeno is now officially my hero.

Why didn't you strike out "vast" instead of "hateful"? :stare:

:P

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:54 am

Fixed.

Veeno is now officially my hero.

I do not view Veeno as a evil force but a force not to be reckoned with. Or else everything in its path will be layed to waste if it does not find it suitable.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:58 pm

I do not view Veeno as a evil force but a force not to be reckoned with. Or else everything in its path will be layed to waste if it does not find it suitable.

Oh great. Now I'm an "it".

Is that you, Shale?