Alright guys...

Let's calm this down a bit, huh?

Hyperbole and the like don't make for convincing discussion.

Some people would like to have seen female characters in the game. I think there's a number of rather obvious reasons why that may have been difficult to implement, or why it might have been something of an oversight during the design phase. (The fact is that only Splash Damage know the real reasons - and regardless of how much credence any one gives their statements on this matter, the reality is that anything else is just pure speculation as well.) I also can see why this option would be in high demand. (Especially given the emphasis this game has put on character customization.)

Adding any element into a game is always a matter of balancing resources. It's simply a matter of taste whether or not you'd prefer to have more other content, or another gender to be able to play as.

Tastes will vary. Obviously, if you don't intend to ever need to play as a female character - you're probably not going to care (or even would want SD to be concentrating on other content instead.) That said - there's some compelling arguments for including females in the game (whether or not this would be possible or "worthwhile" isn't necessarily the most important thing, here. I don't think most of us are industry experts in the first place - it's our job as consumers to say what we want, and the Devs' job to figure out how to best accomplish that.)

Learn to respect others' opinions, everyone. It's really not so terribly hard...

This topic has been over discussed, I would greatly enjoy it if a mod stickied one of the many threads and promptly warned anyone who posted a new topic on the subject.

how does this have 6 pages when this post is so obviously unnecessary, ill informed, and insulting

There has already been numerous Moderator interventions in this thread informing members to not be insulting - and especially to be helpful and welcoming, and to avoid posting if you're not interested in contributing to a discussion. I'm losing patience, now. Seriously.

Even if a topic has "been answered" doesn't mean people can't talk about it. There has been many threads on this subject, but we allow new threads if the previous one has stagnated and fallen more than three or so pages back.

Be constructive, polite, and respectful, or stay out of the discussion. Further failure to read the stickied thread explaining all of this (not to mention the numerous Mod posts in this very thread) will result in warning increases and possible suspensions.

Becase the moderators feel that there is not an active topic regarding this subject (the previous ones have all been buried, thankfully) so they are leaving this one open for the delight of everyone. Better to allow new posters to falsely accuse SD of being sixist and idiotic than to simply lock it I guess.

LOL! xD This makes it so much more fun to watch anyways

For the love of humanity! I never said that SD was sixist! Read it again!

Yeah, those

I reread what you wrote and you did indeed imply that the lack of female characters in Brink was sixist.

Let me quote it for you again:


So what does 'this' refer to in your statement? Based on what you wrote the only logical conclusion is the lack of female character models. "In a way" is a prepositional phrase which can be removed entirely. So we are left with you stating that "this is sixist" or more specifically that the lack of female character models in games is sixist. As SD did not include female characters in Brink then that makes them sixist by your own statement. So yes, you did call them sixist in your post. Better to slander a company without saying it though, right?

Personally I love that you use Gears as an advocate for female characters in games since neither 1 nor 2 had them and 3 is not even out yet.

EDIT: It would be just like me commenting to a post where there, their or they're is used incorrectly and I state that anyone that does not know how to use the correct form of a word is an idiot. Technically I never said that the person who made the mistake was an idiot but I certainly implied it.

Nicely said! Just to note, I never intended to have people believe that I thought SD was sixist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flea6p0zTAU

0:30 - 0:43

Because I don't feel like going back 6 pages and reading if someone else has mentioned the point I'm about to add, as well as the fact that I at 1st intended to stay away from this thread like the black plague...I'll make my statement short and simple.

The reason why females characters aren't in the game is technical. That is the one and ONLY reason why. It's not because SD is sixist. It takes more resources to create a female game mode then a male, because the female anatomy has more parts that would need to be "rendered". It's the reason why you can only have 4 females in the ring at once in the Smackdown Vs. Raw series of games...because the female models require more memory then the males, so to compensate, they made it so that only for can be used. Adding female into Brink would have taken at the very least another 6=7 months of development, and that obviously wasn't going to happen, hence they omitted the idea as has been stated NUMEROUS time in interviews and statements made by SD devs on the subject. Why this topic continues to press on is beyond me, as the info on why there aren't females on the game as been said already, repeated, repeated again, then again...you get the idea. Maybe it's ignorance that keep on driving the question to be asked over and over again. People's blind faith in thinking if they ask the question in their own words they might elicit an answer other then the one already stated, but it's not happening. There aren't females in the game because on the technical side of developing it...they couldn't fit female game models into the framework of the gameplay. Deal with it and put this to pasture already. :facepalm:

When I say "This" it is merely in reference to "a group of joined professionals collaborating on issues pertaining to whether they should implement a female playable character or not." This is just an the american way of applying slang to an overly large focus point in our language. I really am sorry for any misunderstanding. This was not geared towards them.

Lol Buhahahaha, Oh man! That was awesome! My wife was enjoying that! That is what I needed.

You're welcome

Can I make a link to this in my Signature?

I don't know how I missed that.

P.S. You made my day. I honestly can't stop laughing.

Lol Thanks, it actually made me laugh after reading it. Oh well.

There are many women in both Security & Police in the world today.

As far as the Resistance faction goes. Women have long been involved in resistance efforts and revolutions.

That's reality.

For Brink 2 it would be a great idea. There aren't a lot of diehard female gamers (at least that I have met.) However, I'm sure it would be kind of aggrivating not being able to make your character yer own gender if you were a female player playing Brink. There are also plenty of male players that create female characters. It would be win win for Brink to incorporate them in a sequel as the characters are done in a comic book art style it shouldn't be too offensive. The deaths in Brink aren't overly graphic or gorey.

It is entirely unrealistic and unreasonable to expect the Devs to even consider attempting to add female characters to Brink before a sequel comes out in my opinion though.

Maybe you should try using the search bar! Almost every thread in this forum has been reposted more than once. Besides,who wants to keep posting on an old thread,start a new one and people will respond just like you did.

Other side of the spectrum, why is it such a big deal that they'd have to play a male character? Seems to me it'd be more sixist to include female characters since 90% of them are going to have male players, all dressed as close to bare-bottom as the game itself allows. Furthermore, you'd see no heavy female characters, you have my word on that, they'll all be lights or mediums including the ones played by actual women.

This seems to me like just a feminist craze, an assumption that because they weren't included in the game they were intentionally excluded, which simply isn't true! The developing team would have to adapt a totally different style of characterization or else all female characters, like male characters, would look like abhorrent mingers (huge chins and noses, incredibly narrow faces), and then you'd complain again because it'd be a commentary on how looks are important to women- and if they'd all make them drop-dead gorgeous they'd complain that it's shallow and sixist.

It's. Not. Important.

If even one potential customer cares about this issue then it is important. I agree that for a new IP it may not be ideal but it certainly should have been considered, and it was. Now that the art style of Brink is established I think that it would be more likely to see such an option in any potential sequels.

I'd rather not simply because dividing options leaves less for one side. Hell, they can make a female-only Brink and I won't give a peep. But don't ask me to ditch half of what I was promised so some women can fight their adorable little equality struggle (read: receive advantages just for being female).

Also, I request a moderator changes the poll options because as it stands it's not so much pointing to female characters as simply wanting to bar women from playing Brink no matter what. Which is pretty messed up, and will deter anyone disagreeing with the point of this thread from voting no. Basically the "No (and I say "heil Hitler" all the time)" approach of poll rigging.

If a second game is on the current consoles,I wouldn't bet on it.It still takes too much memory to add a whole other set of characters.

Although I agree that female models are not needed in Brink as most other FPSs do not include them, your statement is pure speculation and you have no proof or facts to support such a claim. Yes, it can be done and with Microsoft adding an extra gig of memory to every disc it would be possible to add as a feature in Brink 2.



Wow, who said anything about removing content that 'you were promised'? Furthermore a game can and does change up until its release and soemtimes even afterwards so you were promised absolutely nothing. The addition of female character models in indeed valid, perhaps not for Brink but certainly for Brink 2. Your claims of promises do not detract from the request of SD adding female character models to Brink. Although I agree that they should not be added in Brink I see no reason to invalidate the potential option for Brink 2.