My gamer name is a male one. I have played for years with guys who never knew I was a female so...how would you know really in any way that you could make such a judgement?

First summer im sorry for Quoting a post against the rules.
Second on topic: I dont really care If they Put them in But its not gonna be on brink unless they make this into a game with endless dlcs and no like brink 2 in 2-3 years. Also i dont see why the femal characters would need diffrent hit boxes they could easily be the same size. saying other just really means you want the char for looks only.

Wait!
What would the female heavies look like?!

Females are not realistically the same shape as men. I am simply stating that I don't care, that they can add female characters if they can do it without upsetting gameplay. Also. The whole point of adding female characters will be appearance, they will not perform differently in combat.

yea i was just stating something. and since when is brink realistic? your on a floating building island thingy made by man and machine

Clarification: No one wants a female character that looks like a man.... Kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?

Really sixy, yes?

Like http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gamingangels.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Lucy_Lawless.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gamingangels.com/2011/03/lucy-lawless-lends-her-voice-to-hunted-the-demons-forge/&h=1024&w=780&sz=99&tbnid=EvIk9BBFBaMi4M:&tbnh=150&tbnw=114&prev=/search%3Fq%3DLucy%2BLawless%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=Lucy+Lawless&hl=en&usg=__1tKpnaCOax4EzWhwQd3ddeKqssk=&sa=X&ei=LwrYTeD0JILs0gHn1KT8Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQ9QEwBA

or http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.imaginginfo.com/images/article/1138032785001_cover_8_pg10.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.imaginginfo.com/print/Studio-Photography/Timothy-White--Action-Reaction-Motion-Emotion-/3%241434&h=300&w=240&sz=14&tbnid=o74r45MmCxkRYM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=93&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dqueen%2Blatifa%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=queen+latifa&usg=__oKQ1M8_l7KUqZcLBwbSrQuCZx-M=&sa=X&ei=_wvYTZPPHsrp0gGohN38Aw&ved=0CDwQ9QEwCA

LOL! ;D Good one summer xD

Queen Latifa with the gatalung gun (I think that's what it's called...) xD

Now we are talking about balancing the hit box sizes for each body type too. How does a female model compare to the width of the male ones, in particular the Heavy? In Gears they are using the width of the armor to provide a balance between the two models. As not every model uses armor either every female model would need something to seprate them from the male models. I'm with Richard Ham in that the addition of female models would simply be too time intensive to warrant doing well in Brink. Brink 2 would be another story entirely but in that case it seems realistic to expect 3 body types with stat differences between the male and female characters.

Why does it have to be just women in the game? Why not go all out and add children and the elderly?

My question is that does the fact that this game not having women really take away from the enjoyment of it?

I'm guessing that people that are consumed over something that has been addressed by the devs,yet still want something that isn't going to happen,aren't really a fan of the game.

There are no women in this game,so get over it and play the game for what it is.If you want women in Brink,then just name your character Jane and pretend that it's a woman,because that's the best that you are going to be able to get at this point.

Another issue is the "hyper-realism" style. I have a hard time imagining female characters with the artistic style of the game.

Excellent point!

Sure I'd like female characters in the game... but SD made it clear from the outset that they only motion-captured male movement. Adding females would be very costly, so if Brink turns into a hit by the time Brink 2 is considered (if it ever will be), then the extra cost of mocapping female movement might be a consideration.

Hmmm... maybe a civilian expansion would be a cool development, where non-combatants are in the maps and you lose XP if you shoot them by mistake... I'm not expecting it, but it would screw with the guys that shoot anything that moves, hehehe.

"YES (It would be awesome to actually play with women)" - lol. sorry, smutty mind.

i wouldnt mind it in brink to be honest. females were in UT and worked fine. some of the customisations already look like women, the pony tail ones...

Yes, the notion of neglecting a section of your market until they stop caring is ludicrous indeed.



Isn't that why the ladies and their guys are complaining about?

Of course they're fans. Why the heck else would they be here? That's why they are pushing the issue so that it will be addressed in Brink 2 since I'm told a DLC would be too complicated now. So why are you ppl hating on female gamers who want their voices to be heard then? Isn't the reason we are in this situation to begin with is because no one wanted to admit that there's a market for female FPS players? They want to show the devs that there is a market so let them already!

STOP saying "get over it". That is disrespecting another person's right to be heard.

And it pisses me off when someone is as stupid as to try and justify the lack of depth and lazyness a developer has. In a game where "you're not just another character" as they have put it, why wouldnt they allow female players to be female characters? Don't be so obviously uneducated on the topic by blabbing on about how it would have taken way to long to add female character models and that doing so would have taken away from the current customization. This claim is pure ludicrous and you should really listen to how dumb you sound. Too long to take to add female character models? What the hell have they been doing the whole time they were making this game? Obviously not working on making maps, story plot, and graphic enhancements....there is really no excuse as to why this could have been created in budget and on time. No excuse there. Just lack of effort and focus on quality.

As for it taking away from customization...once again that is complete [censored]. Look at games like Gutiar Hero World Tour...which is how many years old yet allow you actually customize your face/body structure entirely along with endless detailed combinations for up to four people on the screen at one time. I fail to see how with a little time and effort...this type of feature could have been added in regards to just clothing in Brink. If this could not be done so as to not adversely affect loading times and gameplay...then the developers need to go back to school and learn how to make an actual game that can compete by today's standards.

And yes...I voted "Yes", but not because I feel SD is sixist...they are not. They just took the easy way out to same money and time...which I fail to see how doing so helped the rest of the game. Don't get me wrong...I greatly enjoy Brink and think it's fun (when you have a good team), but just don't believe the trade-off was worth it or necessary. My opinion.

Not really. The artistic style is much like that of TimeSplitters 2 and other games like Team Fortress. Females look just fine and can be implemented in the style...if you cant see it, then you have no imagination and are probably not very artistic in regards to thought processes. In fact, no females actually takes away from Brink's atmosphere and story greatly. "Guests" should include everyone being surpressed as well as Security which should be comprised of those willing to protect the Ark. Are there no females living on the Ark? Sounds like a pretty big foating sausage fest if you ask me.

There is a third poster with a female on it FYI. She is wearing a white hood, yellow sunglasses and some black neck-band..... totally consistent with Brinks style. Hopefully SD can optimize their code to make room for females in Brink 2. Although I would prefer if they remain a more neutral body type and give them a different benefit from that lack of choice. Prolonged endurance maybe.

I don't understand why Brink is getting this argument when tons of other mainstream shooters don't have women and people just accept it. Also, when it's been clearly stated by the developers that adding female models would limit the amount of customization and be a strain in terms of coding, I don't understand the sixist comments either. The Call of Duty series has never had any female models, Battlefield doesn't, Gears of War just added one, and I could go on. I don't understand why this argument is being raised for Brink. And it's already been addressed by the developers so I don't get why people are saying "Oh Splash Damage are crappy developers who don't care" or "I'll never play this game now" It's honestly your loss because this game is tons of fun. And I respect the fact that females want to be represented in games, but I don't think Brink is the best place. I mean, look at the art style. Could you imagine how females would look? You probably can't. I could continue with this but I won't. The backlash to the lack of female characters is illogical considering the fact that many people who are up in arms about this play CoD often and don't complain there. If you're going to fight about it, be equal with it.
That's all I have to say.

Alright, I couldn't even make it past this post without having to say this.
If your wife wants to play the game, but the only problem is that there's no female character types? Then it sounds like she needs to man up, grow some balls, whatever you want to call it, and just play the game already. There's no point in you, or her, complaining about this, when there's like Mr. Rick said, multiple threads on this topic, and they all lead back to the same thing, "Maybe in a sequel, if it goes that far. If that's her only reason for not playing the game? And if your beef is the fact that you want to play a game with her....Get a different game, or like I said earlier, convince her to play it, it's seriously not that big a deal.

Male gamer, fighting games? I.E. Tekken and the like? I primarily chose the females just for their being faster, but in an FPS? The only people that are going to see your female character, is everyone else, and if they did make female characters, they'd have to make them pretty much physically as able as the males, not more, not less, so it seems like it's all about appearances....Which in a game where you can't even see yourself, seems pretty pointless.

Video games are a form of entertainment, not an outlet for expression. If you'd like to express yourself through video games, become a dev and add female avs. Critizing others for something you are unable/unskilled to do yourself is grandstanding. If you believe games are a form of expression for players, I seriously hope you're wrong given the content and subject matter of games these days.

If you were familiar with this subject then you would be aware that Richard Ham, the Creative Director at SD, was the one that stated that adding female models would be too time intensive and would take away from the customization options offered for the male characters. You are entitled to have you own opinion but we are paraphrasing his words, not making stuff up. If you continue to act in such a hostile manner towards other members of this forum I will have no choice but to report your posts.

Looks nothing like timesplitters... And because i am pointing out issues with the implementation of female characters i have no imagination and OBVIOUSLY think that having females is irrelevant to the attitude of the game. It's not like I said that it would make a lot more sense to have females in an earlier post or anything... oh wait...

You saying they should have female characters and completely disregarding any and all issues with their implementation is ridiculous. I'd also love them to dynamically create maps so that there were no content issues. Just because i want it doesn't make it feasible.

Having a hard time thinking of how the females would look in BRINK? Play on the map Resort, there you can find 3 female pictures - something in the lines of that doesn't look too weird, no?