Get close to enemy, suddenly it becomes a touch spell. The end.

Yeah I like this. Though it's a FPS, its magic works similarly to TES so I'll bring it up: Hexen. In Hexen (an old DOS FPS, one of my favorites ever) the Mage class gets an Ice Shards spell. When you fire from afar it fires a pattern of icy projectiles at your foes (and freezes them if it finishes them). When used at close range there are no projectiles and it does massive damage, the final use instantly freezing the enemy. The Cleric also has a weapon that fires poison shots from afar but steals health from enemies at close range. I could see them doing something like that for Skyrim.

I loved touch spells they just seem really fun and cool, plus spells like drain or charm are more suited to touch from a rp perspective IMO.

I think the idea to have a spell be touch if close enough if good. Kinda like a melée lunge in fps, plus then you could have cool animations for people like grabbing there face and surging 10,000 volt through it, or a gental hand on shoulder for a charm or buff spell. Plus when your a bad ass it would be sweet to sneak up on someone and just place your hand on their shoulder, draining every last inch of life from there body before trapping there soul for eternity in a little gem.
Hand to hand perks that let you use magic punches could be pulled of well or just be incorporated into the touch spell mechanic as finishers or some thing, that would be sweet, staggering your foe with a series of ranged blasts then charge in for the final svcker flame punch of a life time, send your foe reeling, either that or have it as sprint sensative as well as range so in the right sercomestance touch spell range is a epic punch instead of just a touch/push.

Yes it should indeed depend on how close the opponent is, could also add to the "you are in control of the magic"-feeling.

And remember my dear children, never give a mage a handshake. NEVER!

with 85 spells you would wonder what they all are. Unless they are all are basically piddling little improvements over the lower level ones there is a lot of room for different types. Besides you have to touch yourself to cast a healing spell so there is at least one or two touch spells left.

I liked touch spells, everyone can decide for himself what kind of spell he wants to use.

As an Orcish Spellsword I like to get stuck into Melee Combat. By role play I'm not a fan of ranged attacks, so I use touch Magicks. Why shouldn't I be allowed that option?

They have not said they are not in, so I think its safe too assume they are for now.

i always liked the touch spells in morrowind. i liked them because i always play a melee guy, so it's easier to land.
i prefer bolt-like spells though kuz they are easier to use in general.
i don't see why they'd get rid of them, they are just another way to allow players to play how they want to.

the flamethrower spell is basically a touch spell because it is short range

Touch spells are 99% sure to be in. Just because they haven't talked about something yet doesn't mean it's not in anymore.

Touch spells that are offensive this time around should be dealt by a punch on top of it making it actually different than a range type spell. It is as someone above stated.. a ranged spell up close is going to hit like a touch spell so what is the point. Add a little punch in there for damaging spells and make it hurt their fatigue and a tiny bit of health on top of the spell itself. Just an idea.

Also, touch spells don't count as an effect, it's a way of casting it and hasn't counted toward spell effects in the past so I don't think it will count for Skyrim either. There are 85 (or more now) unique spell effects and the delivery of the spell doesn't count as a spell effect.

Fear not, I, like most people, think they're in.

anyone think that instant hit spells should be in? In other words no directing or guiding a projectile of any kind and no touching. Just pick the target and say a chant.

Touch spells weren't redundant. There were three good reasons to use touch spells:

1. Significantly cheaper magicka cost.

2. More accurate. Point blank ranged spells miss more than you think with the way the computer thrashes around.

3. Able to safely use it while fighting with companions/allies, to avoid hitting them on accident.

First you would need a targeting system but also, I don't like the idea of instantaneous spells on the target as the magicka born spell comes from within you and I don't know how it would be instantaneous. Even then, I'm not a fan of homing spells.



This. I prefer touch spells over ranged spells myself and also they feel more visceral being up close and fighting with spells as well. It's going to be great having a touch spell in my left hand and a sword in my right in Skyrim.

Yeah, calling touch spells redundant is like calling a dagger redundant for thieves.

Yeah Homing spells tend to make it too easy and less skillful while casting but maybe as an option that you can tick on and off in the menu system. Or even the spell either costs loads more to cast and create or the spell tends to be weaker or has a high cast rate to pull off? I dunno, just teasing the idea.. not necessarily supporting it.

Touch spells should only be included if they are naturally more powerful than ranged spells.

Exactly this, well stated.

Touch spells sounded interesting...but kinda stupid if you think about it. When an enemy charges at you...who goes, empty handed, right AT THEM?

Who? The person who knows how to use magic well?

Me!