Training with dummies?

Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:12 pm

I'm sure everyone has noticed in those dummies and targets in Oblivion where NPC practice melee, marksmanship and spells on.
And I'm sure everyone has secretly wished they could gain skill level by practicing with the dummies ;)
I can see by allowing training with dummies might cause balancing issue, when some nerd who does'nt have a life just spends hundreds of hours hitting dummies to get his sword skill to 100.
But still, for some skills that are very hard to get usage with the enemies (such as spells), it would be helpful to get some skill points first with the dummies.

How about this, allow the user use the dummies to train a certain skill up to a certain point, for example skill level 20, after which hitting dummies will not reward skill experience. Or, make it an exponential growth so that higher the skill level less experience you get from the dummies.

I think it'll help when we have a low skill level with, say, marksman at 5, and we want to start using bows and arrows. We can just go to dummies or targets and hit them for 100 times before going out and try to shoot the bad guys.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:48 pm

Yes please. The new DR mod for Oblivion (hasn't been released yet) has this so why not? Just give us a capped level, I would say 25 because that is when you get your first skill related bonus.
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Post » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:18 am

I can see by allowing training with dummies might cause balancing issue, when some nerd who does'nt have a life just spends hundreds of hours hitting dummies to get his sword skill to 100.

It wouldn't take hundreds of ho- I mean, yah... Those nerds!
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:40 pm

It wouldn't take hundreds of ho- I mean, yah... Those nerds!

Shame on nerds! pstt......10050 seconds...
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:51 pm

I'm sure everyone has noticed in those dummies and targets in Oblivion where NPC practice melee, marksmanship and spells on.
And I'm sure everyone has secretly wished they could gain skill level by practicing with the dummies ;)
I can see by allowing training with dummies might cause balancing issue, when some nerd who does'nt have a life just spends hundreds of hours hitting dummies to get his sword skill to 100.
But still, for some skills that are very hard to get usage with the enemies (such as spells), it would be helpful to get some skill points first with the dummies.

How about this, allow the user use the dummies to train a certain skill up to a certain point, for example skill level 20, after which hitting dummies will not reward skill experience. Or, make it an exponential growth so that higher the skill level less experience you get from the dummies.

I think it'll help when we have a low skill level with, say, marksman at 5, and we want to start using bows and arrows. We can just go to dummies or targets and hit them for 100 times before going out and try to shoot the bad guys.

Or just make them give a fraction of the xp.
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Post » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:29 am

I hope it's not too complicated to add this feature within the next 10 months... I really want to see this in skyrim lol
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:13 pm

Or just make them give a fraction of the xp.

even if it's only a fraction of xp it can still be exploited. a cap will be good. also, if you are able to jump and run to increase atheletics and acrobatics skill, you should be able to raise other skills through repetition...
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:23 pm

I can see by allowing training with dummies might cause balancing issue, when some nerd who does'nt have a life just spends hundreds of hours hitting dummies to get his sword skill to 100.

I actually tend to pickpocket the zero damage sparring dagger and mace from the orc trainer that comes with the Battlehorn Castle DLC and attack a Frostcrag atronach until I get my desired skill level.

I am a bit of a nerd though. I don't concentrate on it. I watch TV on another input or concentrate on my computer.

Anyway...
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:19 pm

Let's see... Oblivion added fully respawning dungeons, more extensive level scaling...and you can hit anything with 5 in a weapons skill or school of magic. I doubt these next-gen features will be removed, so just go back to any previously cleared dungeon a few times. Plenty of moving practice dummies.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:39 pm

If they let you train on dummies, the level limit should be 25.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:41 pm

Let's see... Oblivion added fully respawning dungeons, more extensive level scaling...and you can hit anything with 5 in a weapons skill or school of magic. I doubt these next-gen features will be removed, so just go back to any previously cleared dungeon a few times. Plenty of moving practice dummies.

well I know I can kill goblins for practice, but when you see those dummies in the game yet you can't utilize them, doesn't it bother you?
you should have a choice as whether you want to practice with either. it's also part of role play.
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Post » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:04 am

I guess you could have called this topic "Training for Dummies" and that would make a great name for a skill book. :toughninja:

I do like the idea of training dummies but something tells me it won't make it into the game. Way to easy to abuse the system. However, the modders will mod it for sure.
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Post » Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:07 am

yes for training on dummies cos it adds immersion.

I train on them in vanilla oblivion.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:49 pm

"Boards don't hit back."

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Post » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:48 am

even if it's only a fraction of xp it can still be exploited. a cap will be good. also, if you are able to jump and run to increase atheletics and acrobatics skill, you should be able to raise other skills through repetition...

I'd rather see it decrease exponentially
it would be more realistic as you quickly run out of things you could possibly learn from a training dummy
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Post » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:03 am

I have always wanted to use them in Oblivion and hope that this is an opinion in Skyrim but i wont hold my breath.
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