( i didnt feel like reading it all since i read alot of topics today)

on topic:if you notice the setting is 2277 i think...but any way its like a future 50's theme
there wasnt any arabs or middle easter people back then not many
anyway if any thing chinesse people and african americans
lets not forget the style of billboards and ect. if it make you feel better may i offer you a :cookie:

The only time they went out of the box on this was with Moriarty. An Irishman in America. Back then. With an Irish accent.

Maybe he's just from Boston. Who's to say that in the Fallout universe there aren't large communities of Americans of Irish descent who speak with a noticeable accent.

I can call myself 25% Lebanese, but unfortunately it barely shows. I'm just Whitey McWhiteface. My mom looks kind of middle eastern.

Enclave only wants to rebuild the USA, why would they travel across oceans? BoS would not waste time travelling across Oceans. Also how would they? Vertibirds? Not going to happen, flying across an Ocean in a Vertibird would be crazy and a waste of power cells. It's just a pipe dream to think they would. Desmond came to America before the great war before not after. Yeah there could be middle-eastern descendants but you think after 200 years they would have breed with other races and adopted names more common to American culture.

Only example of Ocean travel is the Tanker in FO2 and it left America and has yet to return. Fallout Extreme was to have people go to Asia but that was by land. Land travel is the only way I can see people travelling to America. So only those land masses that are connected to north america would have peoples travelling between them.

Remember nuclear war wiped out most life on earth sending us back to the stone age (but worce). People did not cross oceans back then now did they.. It took a very long time for them to even travel by land. People only travelled by land following animal herds.

It's not too unusual. I've got light skin, hazel eyes, and brownish-black hair. My grandfather has light, blue eyes, and had blonde hair before it turned white. Both of us are at the 100% Lebanese mark. I know of Jordanians and Syrians who are also white, and in the case of Jordanians, sometimes also blonde with blue eyes. I even know of people as deep into Asia as Afghans who have lighter features. I look Greek, perhaps even Italian, but on the lighter side.

I'll give Beth credit for at least having HIspanics in the game which was surprising to me......

Yeah, but its been 200 years. Adding to the years which the Irish families actually settled in America... It doesn't take that long to pick up an accent everyone around you speaks in. But who knows.

I thought something like, he heard holotapes as a child of Irishmen speaking and picked it up from there. :shrug:

Well, Im one of the darker skinned ones. I actually do look it. Atleast thats what everyone else thinks. :shrug:

There IS global travel.

Dashwood's Terminal says he wasn't surprised when Moriarty got his own bar. He's been trying to get rich since he 'ended up in this country, as a baby.'

A Fallout 3 loading screen says that 'Allistair Tenpenny came from England to make his fortune" or something along those lines.

Then there's Dukov and his accent. As for Desmond he was probably spying in America when the war hit.

I think you are forgetting Dukov.

This Country, after the bombs fell America could be divided into many countries. Republic of Dev ring any bells?



Not sure about that, but England could be New England.



Dukov could have come from an area with alot of Russian pre-war people settled. Desmond came before the Great War not after.


People can have foreign accents but having never come from there. There's a man in FO1 with an English accent and he got that from the way people read a Robin Hood book to him guessing he learned that women love foreign accents.

Like any city there are areas like "China Town", "Greek Town" and so on. Accents from pre-war communities could have just stuck. I am sure the Shi in Fallout Two would have had chinese accents but they came just after the bombs fell because their sub was busted.

There are even medical cases where people suffered head injury and started speaking in a foreign accent.

My point is World wide travel would be rare at best. If someone came from another nation after the great war, I want to hear a kick-ass story not just speculation. People do lie you know.

Then they would have said that.

And I believe I read somewhere that a dev said he was put in there to give you an idea of how messed up Europe is at that point. Because if he came to the wasteland seeking his fortune you know England must be awful.

I think a bunch of the Tribals in Point Lookout may be Native American/Some Middle Eastern. Not just saying that because of steryotype, but if you look at the skin color and the eye color.. And the face builds add on to it, too.

Really? Then why did they come up with Names like Ronto and not just Toronto? Or that other city that sounds like Atlanta? Names change after a nuclear war.



If so they messed up big time. They had the chance to tell us one hell of a tail. How he got here, who he came with, what was England and Europe like? but they did not they told us nothing other then a small hint in a loading screen. Until I get a story the who,what,where,when and how someone came to North America from Europe,Asia,Australia or Africa I am not going to be convinced. Reasons I have posted already are far more logical then people just saying "lets cross the ocean and go to America."

If it changes anything, the Official Game Guide says that Tenpenny is from England, and Moriarty is from Ireland. It also calls Dukov a Russian.

That's because Tenpenny is English. Moriarty sounds like he has a Scottish accent, I may be wrong. Dukov is obviously Russian or Ukrainian. His accent just gives it away.

I have the Game Guide: page 378-05 "Dukov, 43, has a carefree attitue about life, and it's defines what he does every day: party. His talk is laced with profanity, yet he somehow maintains his charm and is able to win people over. His booming laugh can distinguish him in a room full of people. All he's concered with are his possessions, his "pad" as he calls it, and ladies." No mention he's from Russia.

page 360. Colin Moriary, 50, has been here nearly his entire life. He claims that his grandfather helped found the original settlement a few years after the war. While no one can verify this, his father did use the nearby trade routes to amass wealth, which is used to help secure Megaton."

I am right about Colin he got his accent from his family that came to america pre-war.

Tenpenny's description says he's an old Englishmen turned American but does not say he came from there. Englishmen at heart maybe? Still even if he did come from there we were robbed of an awesome story and he would be the only example. Therefore it's unlikely he came from over seas.

Oh come on now you are just getting into semantics, Tenpenny came from England.

Where in the game does it say that? I know alot of people born in my country that don't consider themselves Canadian. Even if he is from England you have to admit we were robbed of an awesome story of how he came to America and what Europe and England are like. This is why I say he's not from England we where not give that story. He did not mention it at all. I am using very good logic here. Just because one line in some game guild says "He's an English man tured American" does not make him from England in my books. Also Lead writer for the guide David S.J Hodgson is from England only natural he would sneak that in there.

I am right about Colin and Dunkov :tops:

I'm pretty sure Tenpenny tells you clearly he came from England.

Dukov is still obviously Russian. No American has that accent naturally.

Really, you have never heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_Beach? :facepalm:

Like I said in another post every Major city has China towns, Greek towns and so on and so on... Ukrainian town.

So?

It's in AMERICA and the people born there are born in AMERICA with AMERICAN accents. If anything they'll have a slight accent because of their family but this is Washington, D.C. It isn't known for Russian accents naturally.

And no, I haven't heard of it because I've never lived in New York. You can't expect me to know that.

Give it up, man. Some people need things spoon fed to them in order for anything to make sense.

Usually, once you pass the third grade (or tenth grade for some... obviously), you outgrow the need for pictures in the books you read, and prefer stories with some room to fill in the blanks with your own imagination.

Besides, it's a game. It's make believe. The characters in the story are all fictional.
If some players want to pretend that Dukov came from Russia, or Moriarty came from Scotland, that's ok.
And if some people want to pretend that they are faking their accents, hey... that's ok too!

But don't take it so seriously. Seriously.

People don't lose their accents just because they set foot on American Soil. When thousands come and settle at once they tend to speak their own language let alone the English language. People can have accents and still be American for generations.