Yeah, we've been buried, but Nick and I made it to the office today (albeit very late).

We're just waiting on a confirmation email from the first winner randomly chosen. Answer should go up today or tomorrow -- probably a new question tomorrow too.

I can just see Nick moving with trepidation through the frozen halls of Bethesda Offices, until he finds Gstaff, huddled in a corner and wearing a blanket. "Nick, I need you to kill 10 Dire Frost Atronachs so I can finally rest...."

is it ok for us to post the answers?

I haven't received my confirmation email yet!

:hehe:

Amazing a new bit of lore we can take from this deadric princes are not gods appearently! and neither is Lorkhan! So mankar cameron was wrong when he stated that Lorkhan was a god!

just for reference Lorkhan appears in redguard as his two halfs of his divine body or moons in the sky. part of redguard takes place at night.

They chose out of the three who guessed hoon ding, the more obscure. That's the one I went with, but there's also Jone, Jode, and Clavicus Vile.

It came down to three, and I still lose

And just what makes the Aedra "gods" and not ada?

Bullcrap. Sheer bloody bullcrap. You know what, I'm not even going to participate in this farce of a trivia sweepstakes anymore.

Damn, I considered Hoonding but passed him up because he didn't physically appear in the game! But I said Clavicus Vile like everyone else -_-



:slap:

Well, they never were "gods" as any of the major factions in Redguard understand them. As for Lorkhan, that's His dead body, not Him. Going by in-game perspectives, the HoonDing was the only god present and I beat myself over the head for not thinking that.

I did say Clavacus Vile, and I also said I thought it was a trick question, didn't I?

What? Daedric Princes are called "gods" by mortals all the time. It's a vague term that is never defined and seems to just be used by mortals to describe beings that are more powerful than they. The Tribunal were gods, the Daedric Princes are Gods, the Aedra are gods, mythological heroes are gods. There's no difference between Daedra and Aedra as being other than their participation in the creation of the Mundus. I fail to see how an Aedra is more 'godlike' than a Daedric Prince.

It depends on your definition of a god. they didn't say redguard gods they said a god that appears in Redguard. Other civilizations consider them god so they are gods

An Aedra is a god on Mundus because an aedra is a part of the world, a daedra is not because it's not. Not much more complex than that.

No I'm slapping you because you want to stop entering the contest because of one trick question

If it makes you feel better, I'll sign my copy of the book and give it to you

- http://www.imperial-library.info/gods/index.shtml

@Antibody: If it was truly a trick question, I would feel admiration for the cleverness. However, the answer seems to break the lore itself! That is what makes me cranky.

edit: never mind.

Well, Imperial and redguard culture don't call daedra gods, therefore it isn't so strange to think that a game focused almost solely on the race relations of those two wouldn't paint them that way either.

Yeah, I guess if I was more of a lore buff I'd be as upset as everyone else. :shrug:

Pretend I didn't say anything

Ah but you visit clavicus vile's realm so he is a god there.

I suppose you're right, for the brief period you are there.

either way, it's done with, none of us here won, boo frikkin hoo. Let's just all try harder at the next question instead.

Yea your right so on to next question more tricky ones please ^.^

I just like pokeing holes in their logic

Since the realm is the Prince, then if the Prince manifested on Nirn, wouldn't s/he still be a god? Sure, there are heroes and servents, and even some talking statues, but I'm talking about a real manifestation of a Prince, like how Mehrunes Dagon appears several times to stomp around on Nirn, or when Azura appears ('cause she knows the secret to bypass the Lunar Lattice).

Dagon only appears in special cases (Like when Aedra and Daedra are actually nondistinct because Oblivion and Mundus are nondistinct) and Azura is not absolute on Mundus. Like Prow said in the Lore section response, the rules are different for spiritual beings. The Prince is his/her realm, but they are only their realm. The bearded jolly lunatic isn't Sheogorath, the Isles are, any appearance on Nirn is just an avatar they choose to take, and since it is an avatar, a false, illusory and fleeting projection of their will as best it can be manifested, it is finite and therefore not a god. Mundus is one-eighth of each Aedra, thereofre each of them has one-eighth of absolute power. And while the power of a prince Avatar is far beyond any human, it is nothing compared to one eighth of the entire planet's power.

But that still doesn't make sense. Either it's a god or it isn't. I can understand the power being diminished, but the organism/being doesn't change what it is. It's like saying a bear in oblivion becomes a bunny rabbit when on Nirn, as opposed to a very weak or very tiny bear.

If I recall correctly (I could be misremembering), the trivia question asked which god appeared in the game Redguard, not "on Nirn." =/

I'm assuming we're playing by Mundus rules, and Mundus rules say Daedra aren't gods. Honestly, I don't think this discussion is gonna make any headway, though, and I beleive that's part of the point.

I was under the impression it was TES universe rules. NOT Mundus's rules but ok enought complaining from me. Bring on the next quesiton i got to step up my game.

EDIT: Oops, wrong thread.