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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:41 am

Uh...sorry but this bad on so many levels. I'm just going to say no.
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Ricky Meehan
 
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:00 am

It's just that it would require some time and effort and doesn't really add anything to gameplay, just a pointless, but perhaps enjoyable, distraction. I'd rather the devs worked on things to add to the game instead.


Ayup, agreed. Hence my vote:

"What a lame idea, go to bed before you post again OP"

It would be cool if you could get some experience or something in them...


Even worse. Gaining experience for...what? Which skill would experience be gained in? Sleeping? :blink:
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:14 am

Only in very specific circumstances. Henantier's Dream World was fine in concept, if unchallenging in execution, so maybe one or two at most. Maybe one quest similar to the above, and one camp out in the wilderness, sleep there get something odd, just a little easter egg dream or a clue to a treasure, but lots of dreams, no thanks, too much of anything gains a mudcrab rumours level of annoyance.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:03 am



Even worse. Gaining experience for...what? Which skill would experience be gained in? Sleeping? :blink:


Yeah, I dreamed I blew up a submarine with one of those big round bombs with a fuse sticking out of it, but I didn't gain any explosives experience IRL. Why would we get experience from dreams?

Only in very specific circumstances. Henantier's Dream World was fine in concept, if unchallenging in execution, so maybe one or two at most. Maybe one quest similar to the above, and one camp out in the wilderness, sleep there get something odd, just a little easter egg dream or a clue to a treasure, but lots of dreams, no thanks, too much of anything gains a mudcrab rumours level of annoyance.

Exactly. If there was going to be a dream there anyways, but it was only going to appear in the quest journal, I think it would be cooler for that dream to be interactive. But bar that, dreaming would get really old really fast.
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Post » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:12 pm

that would be awsome man ! :icecream:
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Post » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:06 pm

I've always thoguht of something similar dreaming would give you practice on enemies you have defeated or encountered. You would recieve no benefits and instead of dreaming call it a sort of meditation state. A place for you to work strategies on passed enemies to better fight them in the future. Also the dream state could be great to see random encounters or odd quests. Or a vision of a cave nearby that may hide treasure. Or the beckoning of a Daedric Prince to its lair.

I wouldn't say original, but definately new to the forums.

Oh and if you haven't yet.

http://images.wikia.com/tesfanon/images/c/c4/Fishystick.jpg

But sadly it would be alot of work I bet.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:07 am

I think the second option in your poll is pretty much perfect. This could be really really freaking cool but I don't know.

I would add that dying in the dream should also cause you to wake up and it would be kind of cool if they felt really random. In dreams you never really know how you got there or what you had been doing, so lets say you are in a dream wielding two-swords in the middle of a crowd of enemies that are already heavily injured. Also seamless monster transitions like the wabbajack just to add randomness to it.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:19 am

This idea is awesome!

It can be kind of like on fallout where you were hallucinating (cant remember exactly how it went) but it was very "dream like"
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:15 am

I'm afraid I'm going to have to say "no" to this idea. I would rather go to sleep, wake up, and get on with actual questing/adventuring. I don't really see the point in something like this.

Besides, I'm pretty sure I'll be dreaming about Skyrim when I (not my character) go to sleep anyway.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:29 am

I do, however, think it would be awesome if, when dreaming was appropriate, it was interactive. Like the dreams when you're becoming a vampire. I think it would add a lot to the game if you actually got to play those dreams instead of having them described to you by the quest journal.


I think this would be awesome. At least for the first dream you get before 'the change'.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:26 am

Cracking idea, I'd love to see it implemented.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:31 pm

Not a bad idea but i think it should happen rarely or only once every in game 2 weeks because you could just go to a bed and keep dreamin and going back the second your out , i can see it bin a game breaker , not a bad idea , I for one thought the vampire dreams in oblivon that were written in text were fantastic , so descriptive and brilliant , I think every now and then you could get a random story in a text box like that every now and then when you wake up , not often , but sometimes :)

I think that would be way more easier for beth to fit in in time and its just maybe 20 -25 random stories that dont have to make a whole lotta sense , and just show it in a text box like with the oblivion vampire dreams. What do you guys think ?
Because I think the experiencing the dream would be way to hard to put in and the stories written for dreams in ob were just as good as experiencing it :)
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:45 am

FF8. Loved it.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:33 am

Seems like way too much work and testing for a small feature that has no importance to the game.
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Post » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:38 pm

I like the idea but I think I would rather go to a Daedric Realm during the sleep sequence. That to me would be more inline with a crazy dream world. They could possibly even decide which realm you go to whether or not you are good or bad or even what guilds etc you have alligned yourself with.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:05 pm

Well, assuming quest cells work the same way they did in Oblivion, I think the testing would be trivial. It's the "of no importance" part that might be worth worrying about :P

It might be a really cool feature if the game was focused around dreaming, and the dreams served some pivotal purpose to the plot. But adding them in arbitrarily might be taking us too far into the realm of creature feep.
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Post » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:18 pm

Its an interesting and original idea, I'm just not sure how much time and effort it would take to implement and if a lot then I'd rather see the time go towards something else. Maybe a dream lite version, though.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:59 pm

'A truly original idea' ... (Through a nightmare, darkly) ;)

I don't like the idea of choosing when to dream. Also, if it is completely pointless it will get old very quickly!

Perhaps tie it in to a personal quest line? Something haunting our dreams which we occasionally have to confront when we sleep, and when the quest is completed it has an actual real world effect on us (secret perk or something). Or maybe some mage is attempting to communicate with us (or trying to control us) through our dreams and we have to overcome this threat in the dreamworld and the real one. etc..

Something along those lines would be better IMO because then it wouldn't be completely pointless..
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:34 am

six added in Skyrim!!!! -In your dreams.

:D

ahum...
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:04 am

OK here is where i stand with this one. I like the idea of dreaming, thats all fine, i really dislike the mini-game aspect of it. Dreams would be just cool if they showed you some random stuff or played out some random sequences, but thats about all for me.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:15 am

I play lots of roleplaying games and I am huge fan of The Elder Scrolls. Now I play WoW and enjoy it. In Catalysm there came occational "dreams" or visions that players sees suddenly. You might see your self from another view and you might preform some movements or actions while in this vision or dream. I think they give nice depth to the story itself. You understand possible history more when you can see the past events of certain happening, for example a theft or a battle.

Todays gaming NEEDS these dreams and views. I think it is stupid not to take advanatge of something like this. No minigames, just sudden vision to the future or the past....
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:49 pm

I can see this as being a single quest with a dream sequence that takes you somewhere that isn't like Skyrim...and isn't Skyrim. It could be an interesting diversion and break from the main game. :) Some people didn't like the Mothership Zeta DLC for Fallout 3 but I loved it because it was such a different scenario. I'm not saying a Mothership Zeta type thing for Skyrim because that wouldn't fit at all but something in the TES realm but very different...maybe something they hadn't quite figured out how to fit in.

You can sleep now. :)

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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:12 pm

I actually like this. A lot of the threads recently have started to get boring or redundant, but this was interesting.

I think it should only have a small chance of being an option (maybe 25% chance of having the option to dream) since a lot of the time we dont dream or remember dreams when we sleep. I also think it should be relatively short, like 5-10 minutes depending on the type of dream it is.

I also would want there to be nightmares (maybe 1/5 chance). It could make you wake up with a minor 'unsettled' debuff for 5 minutes or something similiar. It would be cool if some of them started out as dreams but then get really freaky really fast (Like the family dream turning into a nightmare because they all turn into zombies or something).


indeed, i was thinking less than 25% more like 5-9% and nightmares with a slight debuff seem like a great idea.

Make it rare and skipable(as it might get boring after a while) and I would love to see this. Also have a timer based on how long your character sleeps and the dream should end instantly if your body is disturbed while you dream.
I agree that this would be a great way to show of the radiant story in a larger scale.


yes, as i said in the post.. it wont happen every time, and will be totally skipable.

Erm..... I really don't see this happening in this game. It just doesn't fit in imo

If you want to play around in you're own dreams I suggest you play inception: the game

If it exists :P


How could this not fit? its using the elements within the game to form dreams in a realistic way to the game world.
We can only dream of faces weve seen, in skyrim you cna only dream about places and people youve seen. perhaps monsters as well.


I think it would get repetitive and annoying if you dreamed EVERY time you went to sleep, especially if you're RPing (or playing in hardcoe mode?) and you're sleeping every night. I just wanna jump back into the game, y'know?

I do, however, think it would be awesome if, when dreaming was appropriate, it was interactive. Like the dreams when you're becoming a vampire. I think it would add a lot to the game if you actually got to play those dreams instead of having them described to you by the quest journal.


yes, as i said earlier, this has been addressed... it wont happen every time and will be skipable

I'm afraid I'm going to have to say "no" to this idea. I would rather go to sleep, wake up, and get on with actual questing/adventuring. I don't really see the point in something like this.

Besides, I'm pretty sure I'll be dreaming about Skyrim when I (not my character) go to sleep anyway.


Please read the entire post before commenting, it is skippable and there is no obligation at all to do the dream, it is simply a mini game of sorts.

Not a bad idea but i think it should happen rarely or only once every in game 2 weeks because you could just go to a bed and keep dreamin and going back the second your out , i can see it bin a game breaker , not a bad idea , I for one thought the vampire dreams in oblivon that were written in text were fantastic , so descriptive and brilliant , I think every now and then you could get a random story in a text box like that every now and then when you wake up , not often , but sometimes :)

I think that would be way more easier for beth to fit in in time and its just maybe 20 -25 random stories that dont have to make a whole lotta sense , and just show it in a text box like with the oblivion vampire dreams. What do you guys think ?
Because I think the experiencing the dream would be way to hard to put in and the stories written for dreams in ob were just as good as experiencing it :)



just text is no fun :/ playing in the dream is!

Anyways, it appears that majority of the complaints are

1.It would take up too much time: Well then skip it, its completely optional...
2. It would get old and redundant: Skip it if you dont want to do it, it will still be a rare occurrence though.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:25 am

'A truly original idea' ... (Through a nightmare, darkly) ;)

I don't like the idea of choosing when to dream. Also, if it is completely pointless it will get old very quickly!

Perhaps tie it in to a personal quest line? Something haunting our dreams which we occasionally have to confront when we sleep, and when the quest is completed it has an actual real world effect on us (secret perk or something). Or maybe some mage is attempting to communicate with us (or trying to control us) through our dreams and we have to overcome this threat in the dreamworld and the real one. etc..

Something along those lines would be better IMO because then it wouldn't be completely pointless..


that defeats the purpose of all the random elements.. the biggest point is to show off the radiant quest system.. the devs could go nuts with it here and make some truly interesting adn intriguing situations. As for it being pointless then dont do it if you dont want.. this detracts NOTHING from the game play.. its just to be seen a as a fun minigame that rarely pops up.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:17 pm

that defeats the purpose of all the random elements.. the biggest point is to show off the radiant quest system.. the devs could go nuts with it here and make some truly interesting adn intriguing situations. As for it being pointless then dont do it if you dont want.. this detracts NOTHING from the game play.. its just to be seen a as a fun minigame that rarely pops up.

I don't see how giving the dream sequences a purpose could detract from any random elements. And if a little screen pops up every time I sleep asking if I would like to dream, then that does effect the gameplay.

Surely it would be better as a rare kind of quest like 'through a nightmare, darkly' or 'a brush with death' from Oblivion? (except randomly triggered when you sleep)
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