Truth is, this was rigged from the start.

Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:34 am

I just started my fourth playthrough. I have all achievements, and a pretty good stop point on one of my other characters, but this game is so addicting. But what gets me coming back is the lore behind this game.
To me, FO3 was a great game, very fun, and I wasted countless hours in the Capital wasteland, and I regret none of it. But this game. Jesus, Obsidian really pulled it out on this one, and I have so many [censored] questions.

First off, I want to congratulate them on the writing of Vault 11. I seen someone else posted something on this, and I thought I was the only one that was left in awe of the ending of it. If you haven't done it yet, don't read the wiki, or other people's posts on the vault, experience it for yourself ;)

Second, and the reason I'm posting, is I just started a new game, and actually payed attention to what Benny was saying to me. He says something along the lines of "From your point of view staring down the barrel of a 9mm is just a string of bad luck. Truth is, this was all rigged from the start."

Talking to Nash in Primm, he says something about another traveler seeing your name on the list, asking if it was for real, then not accepting the job and walking out.

What my highly drained mind (I haven't slept in what seems like forever and a day since this [censored] game has came out) is thinking, is that someone your character knows, was picked to carry the Lucky 38 poker chip to Mr. House.

Why? Why were you the one picked to carry it? Was Mr. House's plan for you to carry it, get shot in the face, and have Benny deliver the chip back to him?
Who picked you to carry it? Did Mr. House pick you to carry it, and bring it to him? If so, again, why? Did he know you'd side with him/do his bidding, or not know that you'd turn on him, and choose a faction, or rule the strip yourself?

And lastly, who was the other person that Nash mentions? It couldn't have been Benny, or you would have known him previously, and he would have done this out of revenge.

P.S. - this is what part of the alphabet looks like when "Q" and "R" are removed.
P.P.S - where is your character coming from? East I'd assume, that's where the chip was made. If so, why didn't the legion attack you on your way through? Am I missing something, or is my train of thought going way off the rails with this one? I know I really need some sleep, but if someone could clear this up for me, I'd be soooo greatful <3
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:28 am

think luke and darth
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:52 pm

LOL!!!!!
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:18 pm

You could have been coming from the south and made a pit stop in Goodsprings. If you were coming from the south you could have came from The Hub or some other previous Fallout city.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:42 pm

It makes no sense. I simply can't see why the couriers name would already be tied in with the platinum chip before a courier for the chip is even chosen. I could understand if the other courier sees that that cargo is the chip or sees that it's Mr. House's package, but the dialogue specifically says that it's your name which makes him decline the job. Quite odd. This combined with the canyon wreckage is quite a mystery. I have a feeling it'll be expanded upon in DLC though.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:57 pm

First off, I want to congratulate them on the writing of Vault 11. I seen someone else posted something on this, and I thought I was the only one that was left in awe of the ending of it. If you haven't done it yet, don't read the wiki, or other people's posts on the vault, experience it for yourself ;)
I hear a lot of people praising Vault 11. I haven't been there myself though. I don't want to know the contents of Vault 11, but what exactly do you mean? Is it just the Vault itself, and you will find it out when you're there, or is the praise about a quest concerning Vault 11? If the latter, how do I start this quest?


Talking to Nash in Primm, he says something about another traveler seeing your name on the list, asking if it was for real, then not accepting the job and walking out.

What my highly drained mind (I haven't slept in what seems like forever and a day since this [censored] game has came out) is thinking, is that someone your character knows, was picked to carry the Lucky 38 poker chip to Mr. House.

Why? Why were you the one picked to carry it? Was Mr. House's plan for you to carry it, get shot in the face, and have Benny deliver the chip back to him?
Who picked you to carry it? Did Mr. House pick you to carry it, and bring it to him? If so, again, why? Did he know you'd side with him/do his bidding, or not know that you'd turn on him, and choose a faction, or rule the strip yourself?

And lastly, who was the other person that Nash mentions? It couldn't have been Benny, or you would have known him previously, and he would have done this out of revenge.
Have you visited the Canyon Wreckage, just West of Primm? It contains scribbling on the garbage referring to Courier 6, you. Also, on the wood, "the Devide" is written. This place looks like an entrance into the western part of the map, the part currently blocked off by mountains. And the "Devide" is also mentioned by Johnson Nash. He says something like "I hope a storm from the Devide skins him alive." It would, maybe, be safe to assume that the person who turned down the job actually lives in the Devide, and the part behind the junk blocking the road in Canyon Wreckage actually is the Devide. So I'm thinking this may be a DLC setting where the whole courier 5-thing will be cleared up.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:57 pm

I hear a lot of people praising Vault 11. I haven't been there myself though. I don't want to know the contents of Vault 11, but what exactly do you mean? Is it just the Vault itself, and you will find it out when you're there, or is the praise about a quest concerning Vault 11? If the latter, how do I start this quest?


Have you visited the Canyon Wreckage, just West of Primm? It contains scribbling on the garbage referring to Courier 6, you. Also, on the wood, "the Devide" is written. This place looks like an entrance into the western part of the map, the part currently blocked off by mountains. And the "Devide" is also mentioned by Johnson Nash. He says something like "I hope a storm from the Devide skins him alive." It would, maybe, be safe to assume that the person who turned down the job actually lives in the Devide, and the part behind the junk blocking the road in Canyon Wreckage actually is the Devide. So I'm thinking this may be a DLC setting where the whole courier 5-thing will be cleared up.



It's not a quest, just go there, pay attention to the er, scenery, corpse/object placement, holotapes, terminals, etc
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:35 pm

Just one point of order. The "other 6th courier" isn't necessarily someone your character knew; it's someone who knew your character's name.

If I'm in a martial arts tournament and I see that the next challenger is Fighter X and the promoters want either me or Bruce Lee to fight him, I might go, "Hmmm, maybe I'll let Bruce handle this one." That doesn't mean that Bruce knows me.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:25 pm

Just one point of order. The "other 6th courier" isn't necessarily someone your character knew; it's someone who knew your character's name.

If I'm in a martial arts tournament and I see that the next challenger is Fighter X and the promoters want either me or Bruce Lee to fight him, I might go, "Hmmm, maybe I'll let Bruce handle this one." That doesn't mean that Bruce knows me.


What's so special about your character then? "I hear he has made every delivery ever, AND can get shot in the face, and live to tell about it. Or so the rumors say..."
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:21 am

What's so special about your character then? "I hear he has made every delivery ever, AND can get shot in the face, and live to tell about it. Or so the rumors say..."

No idea. Just wanted to clarify that that's part of the question too. :) Who was the "other 6th courier" and how did they know your character? Did you know them? Were they a stranger? Did they know you by reputation? By sight? Do they have a file on you somewhere? Did they read your name in the tea leaves? What? Whaaaat??
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:36 pm

No idea. Just wanted to clarify that that's part of the question too. :) Who was the "other 6th courier" and how did they know your character? Did you know them? Were they a stranger? Did they know you by reputation? By sight? Do they have a file on you somewhere? Did they read your name in the tea leaves? What? Whaaaat??



I like games that go deep into detail and leave you hanging. I remember on the gearbox forums when Borderlands first came out, a few of us there found the easter egg of shooting certain barrels in a certain order, it unlocked someone riding a giant fish in the ocean.

This though.... I want mah answers soon :brokencomputer:
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:45 pm

That's definitely something that has me itching to find out more :) I hope it's something resolved eventually, even if its in a DLC. I don't see why they'd drop a tidbit like that and not follow up on it ever :(
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:41 pm

P.P.S - where is your character coming from? East I'd assume, that's where the chip was made. If so, why didn't the legion attack you on your way through? Am I missing something, or is my train of thought going way off the rails with this one? I know I really need some sleep, but if someone could clear this up for me, I'd be soooo greatful <3


The Chip was made in Sunnyvale, California. So assuming House found it near where it was made (it mention's he'd spent a fortune searching for it) then you'd be coming from the west, NCR territory.
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