So Stendarr was originally known as Stuhn and was described as a "warrior god that fought against the Aldmeri pantheon." His brother Tsun "died defending Shor from foreign gods." It should be a safe assumption that the foriegn gods in question were elven, so Tsun could also be described as a "warrior god that fought against the Aldmeri pantheon."

Taking a closer look, Stuhn - while being a warrior god - introduced the innovation of taking captives. Put another way, he invented the idea of not killing elves. Taking a look at his activities on the other side among elves as "the apologist of Men" he becomes more generally the god of elves and men not killing each other, and by further generalization the god of not killing - i.e., mercy. However, the original two groups of not-killing - elves and men - are relevant. The crux of their conflict was Shor/Lorkhan so Stuhn can be seen most fundamentally as the God of Not Fighting About Shor. Could his brother Tsun, who died fighting about Shor, have been the God of Fighting About Shor?

Trinimac on the other hand was "a warrior spirit of the original Elven tribes that led armies against the Men." He's known for removing Lorkhan's heart and trying to stop an exodus of the only elves that hold Lorkhan in high regard. The most recognizable feature of his sphere is opposing Lorkhan. While it might not seem to make much sense, perhaps it was not so much opposing Lorkhan himself but fomenting conflict around Lorkhan that was Trinimac's sphere. If so, it's not much of a further leap to identify the two lost gods of fighting about Lorkhan with one another.

I don't know about the "Fighting about Shor" bit. Tsun's sphere was overcoming adversity.

You mean, "All Varieties of Faith had to say about Tsun was that he was the god of trials and adversity."

"'Tsun--' and at this Name Dagon finally did choke, coughing harshly but hiding it as age, '--he grants my craft-wit with provisions from the aether.'

Which to me has to deal with overcoming the adversity of the great challenge ahead of him.

That's also the only other mentioning of Tsun that I know of outside of Varieties of Faith.

It's more like Tsun provides divine inspiration in trade work.

Tsun provides inspiration for all mundane enterprises, especially during times of adversity.

But that isn't what your quote is saying specifically. It's a hint that Tsun is Zenithar. The quote should be read along the lines of "[Tsun] grants my [ingenuity with regards to trade skills] with [gifts] from [heaven]. It says nothing about adversity.

I would draw the inference that Tsun is Zenithar. I know it's not the likeliest of parallels, especially since the names don't resemble each other so much as Stuhn and Stendarr, but if you take into consideration...

Tsenithar (made up name) is pronounced Zenithar
Tsun... hmmm....

Ok??

Not a big surprise. Of course, I'm the guy who was surprised to find out Orkey was Arkay. LOL. So you probably shouldn't listen to me anyway.

They're the same. Zenithar is the god of technical inspiration and practical problem solving. Agriculture, craftswork, trade are ways to make one's life easier. Zenithar is the "provider of our ease" by providing mortals methods to produce from Kyne's gifts.

Proweler would point out that he was still a god of something before mercantilism existed.

I think I must have misunderstood Dominic's reason for quoting the Aldudagga because nobody seems to be following me here.

Thanks now I have to read this thread and see if that's true. <_<



The quote about trials against adversity comes from Faith in the Empire: "Tsun: Extinct Nordic god of trials against adversity. Died defending Shor from foreign gods.".

Though the quote from the Seven Fights does connect Tsun to Zenithar, but it also gives a better insight into the Nords. Tsun | Zenithar | Z'en | Zeth are all gods of getting through live, either by farming, trade, work, or in the case of the Nords surviving the harsh conditions and individual problems of their existence.



Rather of something bigger then mercantilism .