Up the river south of Anvil, or just land on the peninsula, set up camp, then go back and attack the harbor, as the rest attack the front gates.
Bosmer unlikely to poke their heads out, wouldn't fight unless they were attacked, and Summerset Isles would either not hear of the attack, or, why would they even help Cyrodil if they were in no danger?

They would only have to worry about Forces from the east, and maybe som Redgaurds from the north.
BUT, With the Elder Council feuding, they could reach Skingrad before fighting anyone but Imperials, depending on if the RPers can settle the feud, and when they settle it.

Topal Bay... Narrow strip surrounded by Khajiit and Argonian lands, and not all that far from Morrowind..

Anvil is the best choice.

The Men of Akavir are thought to be dead, I think that they could have survived.

Attacking the summerset Isles would be fairly illogical too : Akavir is east of Tamriel, summerset is west of it. That would be about at smart as using Japan as a gathering point to attack the eurasian continent when moving from America's eastern coast...

Especially considering the Ka'Po'Tun are a land-based power judging from what litle whe know about them, trying to go for the Summerset Isles would invite Invincible Armada style troubles.

My bad, my ESF geography is almost as bad as my RL geography.

Mhm, Whereas if they were to have troops attack the front of Anvil and storm the harbor at the same time, they take out a major Imperial port.

But they also have to go around Morrowind, blackmarsh, southern Cyrodil, Elwesyr and Valenwood to get to Anvil. So im pretty sure some one would spot them in that time, loses the whole "suprise attack" advantage.

They have to go around Argonia and trap themselves in Topal Bay to go through the river. Not to mention, using the river would only condense them and make them easier to kill, similar to Thermopylae.

I was under the impression they were on the opposite side of the globe from Tamriel, slightly closer to the east than west to keep them away from Yokuda.

I would think they may attempt a Vvardenfell or Morrowind invasion after taking Solstheim shortly afterward to serve in their supply chain, to establish a base in the heart of Morrowind, but I'm sick of the Vvardenfell RPs. There is no way the Akaviri would be able to strike at Cyrodiil directly with any amount of force, simply because as pointed out in game, it's well protected from any external threat barring daedric invasions.

I think it would even be somewhat plausible, because as far as my calculations go, the Dunmer would fall before them because they don't have many tricks up their sleeves like the Khajiiti ridiculous luck bonuses (Ohmes and Ohmes-raht remarkable attribute, as opposed to speed or agility), the Bosmer Wild Hunt, Nordic Thu'um, Argonian/Hist diseases, Altmer OPed magic ability, Breton Magic resistance and castability, or the Imperial's emergency draconic ass-pull (Face it, whenever Cyrodiil feels threatened, you can bet a dragon is going to show up to save their redshirt army. Too bad they have a critical weakness to Redguards with Attitude). However, they wouldn't be entirely wiped out because they have a rubberband combat ability. At some point, they will break out the dwarven stuff, a Telvanni might care, Redoran might grow a backbone, or Hlaalu will step aside, and they will begin to admirably hold the line against the Akaviri, which will probably blitz into Cyrodiil.

looks like this may need to be set up in a similar vein as the Siege of Sentinel was. And since it seems unlikely that the khajiit will be playing a major role in the opening phase, I could play as an Akaviri commander instead, (Can I make his first words distributed to the Empire be "How are you gentlemen? All you Tamriel are belong to us."?)

Yeah, plus the way Morrowind is set up would make it easy to quickly take over and settle. Lots of coastline that goes deep into the country. Even if they managed to directly take over Cyrodiil, it would be far from stable and defensible immediately after the take-over. They are going after the whole of Tamriel, not just Cyrodiil, so all other outside forces would eventually have to be met.

Therefore, Morrowind is where this should take place...

To be honest. No, i dont want to see another SOS rip off. I like SoS, i like the story and the people in it. I trust Immortal blood when it comes to RP's, i trust him to carry it through. With this RP, Nobody could ever RP the KPT in a fair way. No matter who you are people just wont see it as fair. I would rather have small groups (mercenary groups or smaller) with heroes breaking through on both sides, the story following all of those people during the war. It makes for a much nicer story imo.

And if i was the KPT, i wouldnt even invade until the 2nd/3rd thread. I'd be busy spreading seads of discord throughout the provinces, causing rebelion and what not. Send small groups to ambush trade routes. Sint supply boats and what not. Then when the empire is starting to fracture, i'd sweep in and deal the decisive blow which breaks the back bone of the great Tramriel empire. Now that would be Interesting to RP. Shame im already planning on doing that in a different sense in Highrock.

YES! DO IT!

EDIT: Wow, 110 comment, 13 votes...

I tend to agree with Solidor on this one. It's an interesting idea, but I would not want it played out like Siege of Sentinel. Actually, I vaguely remember an rp on here a few years ago involving the KPT. That was, of course, before I joined and when I was just lurking as a guest. That was nothing like this of course, but I liked that portrayel of them. It was actually the first rp I read on this forum. Shame I can't remember the name, and I'm almost certain it's been deleted off the boards.

As to this, I don't know if I could join if it ever came about, mostly due to my lack of time, but also because this seems to be looking more and more like a Siege of Sentinal wannabe, and I'm already thinking of joining Highrock.

Instead of a war of swords, why not be a war of words and culture would be better. Not so much politics but more to the point of subversive tactics. One would be smarter to do that than all out war. And before anyone pulls the KPT wouldn't do that, think for a moment on tactics. If the KPT can or at least one can achieve dragon form then they would have a strength there. The shapeshift that was done to achieve dragon form. Be it through alchemy, natural ability, item (crystals and such) or another way. Even mages who could see through the illusion magick may or may not see through this as its a foreign ability unknown to them.

And as for the rp, maybe a rebellion or something to go for instead.

Tosh Raka didnt shape shift, he ascended to godhood. Like some of the people we have heard about in Tamriel. Only his devine body is that of a dragon.

Ahh Well, I read about it. He attained his godhood through metaphysical stuff or something >.< But you get my point in general. A subversive, invisible war. Not one fought plainly through steel.

I think if this went down, it would have huge epic battles until Tamriel would end up looking like all hope is lost, but then pull some nine divine powers out of their asses, and send the KPT packing.

I have never even read the SoS thread, so it would never be a ripoff or wannabe.

Remember, this is still the idea thread!

I have gained many ideas from this.
If made now ti would have much more manipulation, deception etc.

I agree with some posts in saying that the KPT are more then likely not going to be RP'ed fairly.

So basically a War RP with politics and rebellion sprinkled on top?

Most places they can land on the eastern part of Tamriel aren't gonna be pretty for them. If they tried to go north they would be fighting in the high, cold passes of Skyrim, and just landing would be a nightmare in such a rocky area. If the Nords ever found out in time, it would not end nicely for the KPT, though they could still gain a landing area, the losses would cripple them.

The south is basically out of order with the Argonians and their death marshes.

Apparently the Khajiit are able to hold off mass invasion by superior forces so thats out of order, and sailing up the river into Cyrodiil? Well all Tamriel has to do is cut off the river with its navy and win through a war of attrition, because the KPT's supply lines would be cut, both reinforcement-wise and weapons and such.

If they tried sailing any further west they would be spotted pretty easily I would guess. Then not to mention that its a new land so they would be introduced to new sicknesses and all that non-interesting stuff.

Thats just my opinion on what are some possible outcomes of landing zones in Tamriel. :shrug:


EDIT: GAH!! Forgot Morrowind. Well simply put I think beating back the Dunmer and gaining a strong enough foothold would be a rather devastating.

Scrap this idea.
It was my first idea, and while reading replies, some other ideas popped into my head soooo...

I'll stick with my current RP, and make one in a few months maybe.

Like I said, less war. More on the idea of subversion, kidnapping, use of doppelgangers and other kinds of tricks. For example, they send in a small group of highly trained 'agents' kidnap Mr X whos say head of the Imperial palace guards. They use magick or alchemy to change the shape of one of them to this Mr X and act as spies and gain footholds and whatnot.

Skyrim would be the last to fall. Take Morrowind, Cyrodil, Valenwood, Elwesyr, Hammerfell, Hightrock. Then attack from all sides. And remember, the forces of you're defeated enemy could be forced to fight, easy enough to overwhelm the nords then send in the heavy duty KPT.

As for the river Niben. Its not just a supply route for the KPT, its a supply route for the Imperials, especially is they are cut off from all angles. Just build a dam, dry the river out. Let them die of thirst.

As for black marsh. Could just take alot of sand from the deserts and deposit it into the swamp land, cut down the vegetation etc. I wouldnt instantly send my forces into Black marsh. It would be suicide.

But who says you have to invade every promise? I'd probably try to recruit some (most likely the redguards) against the empire. Promise them independance away from the empire, or help them rebuild Yokuda and what not.


OR they could just dye their fur to look like Khajiit. Probably alot easier to do. They arent shape shifters.

And heads of organisations who go crazy can be killed and replaced. Not such a good tactic.

The Niben is not the only river in Cyrodiil... according to lore, rivers run from Lake Rumare to the extremes of every province, with a direct route to the Illiac bay... And damming the niben wouldn't dry out the Imperials, as it flows toward the ocean, not to the Imperial City.

Why do you say Skyrim would fall last? It would be the Redguards who provide the most problems, unless they can be bribed into aiding the KPT. From what we know of the lore, the KPT are bigger and meaner than Nords, so only their Thu'um would prevent them from being a total victory for the KPT.

And they would be fools to attempt to conscript khajiit, because if one or two decide they don't really like the KPT, they would end up with a pretty big, untraceable disaster.


Even if their fur matched a Khajiit's, it doesn't stop them from looking mighty funny (They have decidedly canine features, if I remember one of the conversations on the Lore forum correctly.) And again, the khajiit would spot the ruse immediately, and Bosmer after the first battle (they don't taste like sugar). And the fact that they are even larger than Cathay-Raht doesn't help with their disguise check... Only a Colovian hick would miss the ruse.

If there was enough of the KPT, which, since Anvil wouldnt be TOO hard of a target,
They could ally with Redgaurds, send a force with them into High Rock, and take Anvil with the help of the Tang Mo.

Damming the river will not kill them.

I'm sure there are plenty of water sources around. And it's also not the only supply route into the province, though land transport would certainly slow things. But if they blockade the KPT from brining supplies that way then Morrowind and all the other provinces could still send supplies to the bay, where they could be carried by land. :shrug:

I'm sure that blocking off the river would not end up killing many people due to thirst though. It's more important for supplies, especially the KPT then anything else.




But the fact that they would have to sail around an entire continent leaves many problems.

One is, no matter what your are, being on a ship that long with that many people, your soldiers aren't gonna be happy. Plus sicknesses spread pretty fast in such tight areas, so thats always a possibility.

Then there is the possibility that your gonna get spotted by unfriendly eyes, unless you take some super-wide route to Anvil, which only leads to problem one being made worse.

Then think how the Redguards or Altmer are gonna feel when a strange fleet enters their waters. They don't know what intentions the KPT have, though if they recognize them as the KPT, then I'm sure they won't see them as allies at first. Plus they have to sail past either the Nords to the north or the Khajiit and Argonains to the south (though I have no idea what kind of navy either of those races has).

Hammerfell may not be on the best of terms with the Empire, but why would you trust some unknown group of leaders who offer promises of freedom? No smart leader would accept it right away, because it has trickery all over it.

The KPT would need to show their intentions with gifts and not attacking Hammerfell, plus the Redguards would need to be absolutely sure the KPT are going to win before joining up with them because should the KPT be driven off, then they are in a sore position indeed. So thats even more time the Redguards would remain probably neutral as they waited and watched who was doing better in the war.

1. Drying The river Niben stops the Imperials getting supplys via the navy.
2. Skyrim would be the last to fall because its probably one of the hardest provinces to take and would make more sense to try and spread the Nords thin (think russia)
3. Please oh god stop with you're hard headed worshipping of the Khajiit. Its getting old, just because they are evidently you're favorite race does NOT mean that they are the biggest bad asses in town. It really doesnt. If they can be beaten by the imperial emprie they can certainly be CRUSHED by the Ka'Po'Tun.

And Erm, Who said anything about desguising the KPT as Khajiit for battles? I meant a small number for social infiltration. Not an entire army. That would be a pointless waste of time and resources.

@Blade master. Well i said that with the assumption that Cyrodil would be the second to last to fall before Skyrim. They would have lost all outside help and the only way to get supplies into the surrounded province would be up the river. Obviously it would be a pointless gesture if Cyrodil was the first province to be attacked.