We know that. Its a given.

The used to be Po'Tun until the devine Tosh Raka renamed them Ka'Po'Tun and all the jazz.

As for the dragon scale armour, im not sure on that, since it would be a very heavy armour, you want to look a asian japanese/chinese and maybe mongolian cultures for the Akavirians. They generally didnt have much heavy armour available, nor did they want any.

I think the KPT worship dragons, as they wish to become them.

Yeah you said that, Go back to sleep.

Just sitting and visualising in my head Ka Po' Tun,
I think of a Khajit, but.. maybe about a foot or so taller, much stronger, and.. Sort of an ancient chinese feel the them.
I dunno, im reading, and reading, and reading about them.

Anybody have any good sources of information on Ka Po' Tun?

There isnt any extensive information on them, just a few tantalizing glances here and there, and we cant even be sure if the information given is real or not, there is no hard solid fact in the lore to prove that Tosh Raka is actually a dragon or not.

But it is widely assumed that he IS actually a physical dragon.

Also, wouldnt the lack of lore make this EASIER?

I mean, with enough research on them one could speculate what they would be like.

Theres only limited research you could do on the Ka Po Tun themselves, what you need to try and do is figure out what the lore writers are basing the races of Akavir on. Then you can research those cultures and tastefully apply them to the KPT.

And how could i go about that?

From looking at Akaviri weapons and architecture such as Cloud Ruler Temple, they seem rather Oriental, but this would need a bit more confirmation.

If you use AIM i'd be happy to help from there.

I have MSN.
I dont even know what AIM stands for.
All i know is its an Instant Messenger.

I'd join. Sounds pretty interesting and I need a rp to join.

I've got almost %70 of all voters who say yes.

That's all i was looking for.
I'll continue to make adjustments and hopefully get it up as soon as possible.

Can I play a Senche-Raht pleeze? I really want to play the more exotic breeds of khajiit. A 2000+ lbs powerhouse of a kitty should have enough drawbacks to make him playable... Even if I am capable of rending a ship with my claws, I can't really dodge any hail of arrows aimed at me... And the big guy is always the bullet magnet.

If they are attacking from the Topal Bay area, the khajiit are really going to be pissed at them... Especially if these katana-lovers that look more like dogs than cats (which was somewhat confirmed in the lore boards, deciding they were more like a type of oriental tiger than a frikken one),

I imagine the Ka Po' Tun to likely be similar to Cathay and Cathay-Raht.

And no, you can't be a senche, you do realise you're basically asking to be a horse?
The Khajiit use them as steeds, aka, horses.


Elsewyr WOULD be sending a force, mostly composed of Suthay-Raht, and a few Ohmes and Ohmes-Raht.
I dont think an Alfiq would be unreasonable.


I was thinking because of their extreme similarities, the Khajiit may refuse to fight them, and will only fight some of the Tang Mo that have come along as a gesture of good faith among the two Akaviri nations.
OOOORRRRRRR
Elsewyr joins the Ka Po' Tun, only to be betrayed as the Ka Po' Tun believe that intra breeding with Khajiit may weaken them.

I still need suggestions on this, and i need to clear some things up before starting.

there are two breeds of senche, Regular and Raht. Ones bipedal, ones quadraqed. I've seen people use The bipedal version before, i think scow could actually pull it off since he's even stated some of the few downfalls of being such a size.

As for Elwesyr. I think the Ka'Po'Tun would absorb them into their Forces, promising them their own freedom and independance away from the Empire in return for their help, But they may just be manipulating what they see as an inferior less advanced beast race.

No, both Senche forms are quadrupedal... One's just bigger and meaner than the other.

Also, to expand on my case for playing as a Senche-Raht:
You say it would be like playing a horse, but if so, you are either ignoring established lore on the Senche breeds or trying to create an arbitrary balancing act. Though Senche are used as mounts, they are just as intelligent as any other khajiit, and are individuals in their own right. In fact, it is possible that a Senche-Raht could even be a battlefield commander.

Though the lore is mostly silent on whether the quadrupedal khajiit can speak (all we know is the Alfiq can't), nothing says they can't either. The only times they appear in lore are a Dance in Fire, where none of the khajiit speak, and in the interviews with Cherim and Jobasha, where they are only described in a general manner. I personally believe that only the Alfiq and possibly Alfiq-raht cannot speak, simply because they are too small. The khajiit appearance in Morrowind already prove the "beast head" forms of khajiit can speak, so its not too extreme to apply that to the larger quadrupeds.

It is also known the Alfiq are at least competant spellcasters, as demonstrated by the book Mixed Unit Tactics because although the author believes it was the Dagi casting the spells, he made it clear he was ignorant of the nature of the Alfiq (going so far as to call them "housecats")

If this is a war-style RP, the unbalancing power of the Senche-Raht is negated by the akaviri supersoldiers we are going up against. Also, though a Senche-raht may be unequalled in melee combat, you have to remember they are bullet-magnets, cannot use weapons, just as vulnerable as any other living thing to critical strikes, have limited mobility (as agile as they are, their size makes it difficult to dodge attacks), can't use weapons (Major drawback), and pretty much can't fill any role other than heavy assault. They are sort of like Hunters from Halo (If I remember, the hunters were usually easier to take out than most Elites)

And I find saying the Khajiit and Ka po'tun will ally simply because of their physical similarities is empircally proven untrue, as they have far more in common with the Bosmer than any other race, and you can see what happens there. The Ka Po'Tun are closer to the Altmer than any other Tamrielic race. Also, another reason the khajiit and Ka Po'tun will not ally: Game balance. The martial prowess of the Ka Po'Tun and versatility of the Khajiit will make them the greatest fighting force on Nirn.

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All that says is they can be used as mounts, they have straighter llegs so that would suggest they can walk on two legs. Then theres also a few lore books i've read where it is stated that they walk on two legs, run on four. Hm?

Woah, how did I say that twice... thats never happened to me before

No... The straighter legs means they have a stockier, likely stronger and less agile than their smaller kin. Could you direct me to the book where it says they are bipedal as well? I was under the impression the Cathay-Raht were the largest and strongest of the non-quadrupedal khajiit. I'm also guessing the longer, straighter legs are necessary to support the massive frame of the big cats. They are battlefield behemoths.

*heads over to TIL*

Back in a jiffey

I agree with EVERYTHING you just said.
:)

EXCEPT,
I had the idea they would temporarily manipulate the Khajiit, and then destroy them seeing them as an inferior race.

The biggest problem with that theory is... You can't beat a khajiit at its own game. When it comes to cat's-paws, the Ka Po'Tun are just elves in fursuits compared to the khajiit.

The Ka'Po'Tun are the biggest empire in Akavir, they beat the snakes and are on their way to destroy the snakes then invade Tamriel. You're just biased because of you're love of Khajiit, The KPT are very powerfull from what we've seen. I mean, they have a dragon as their emperor. Lord knows what else.

Actually, its more about the nature of Khajiit and Ka Po'Tun... From what I see, the Ka Po'Tun are masters of the aspects of the Warrior and Mage, but the Khajiit are the Thief, and since the Thief is the King, he wins in the end... I go by Lore of the Convienient truth.

Put more plainly, even if the KPT are the ultimate military and ruling force, the khajiit, if opposed by the Ka Po'Tun (such as attempted genocide), would end up flipping Tosh Raka's empire on its head.

However, having an Avatar of Akatosh vs. Tosh Raka battle... How does one handle fighting a different aspect of oneself?

But an invasion force of such warriors and mages will beat down even the most cunning thieves. I find it hard to believe tbh. You have to remember the KPT are still a feline race, they are agile as well as powerfull.