Yeah i just realised they wouldnt ally with Bosmer.

Good point Scow, although that seems more like pompous High Elf behaivor to me. But, I can definetly see the Khajiit doing that too

This Rp seems like a good idea. The Ka Po'Tun woiuld be a major threat. The only province that probaly be able to withstand would be Black Marsh. Hazordous terrain, disease, and dangerous plants. The argonians also probaly wipe out any intruders. Any way this discution is kind of off topic. Also, would the dragons attack too? I meen like the Ka Po'Tun ones

Ka Po' Tun has ONE dragon.

Any region to be attacked would get the aid from the rest of the empire anyways, so it isn't super important what region they are in.

Yeah both do. Argonians would probably be better at it in swamp lands but Khajiit are still good at it.



Oh god no. The Ka'Po'Tun is probably equal to the ENTIRE empire in size and numbers, they would wipe the Khajiit off the map if they even tried a crude victory like that. You're thinking to small, maybe against the bosmers of valenwood that would work, or an unorganised small army. But we're talking fleets of Ka po tun. I smell genocide of Khajiit.

And think, this would be with the Tsaesci defeated.
They would be even stronger.

Khajiit wouldn't stand a chance.

And they are also allied with the Monkey people (name forgotten.) They are THE experts on Guirrela war fare.

Tang Mo.

It'd essentially be Akavir Vs. Tamriel... I wonder who would win.....

Fixed it for you.

And from the history and lore of the khajiit, if the Ka'Po'Tun, Tang'Mo, Tosh Raka, Reanimated Tsaesci, Subjugated Imperials, Redguards, Nords, Orcs, etc... Something in there impending, inevitable genocide will go horribly, horribly wrong, and the khajiit will come out well and alive, if not on top.

And if the khajiit get taken out... How long will the Akaviri rule until Jode and Jone decide to drop by with a friendly colony drop?

Wow.

You never give up.

If Elsewyr was nuked you'd insist the Khajiit survived.

Two words: Baan Dar

What does that have to do with it?
Baan Dar is a Bosmer god too.

Not the khajiit version of him. To every other religion, he is either a vagabond or Batman.

From the Wiki:

Man and Mer, is Nords, Imperial, Breton, Dunmer, Bosmer, Altmer.

NOT beast.
Which would be Argonians, Khajiit, Ka Po' Tun, Tang Mo.

And you are taking that WAYYYY too far.

Actually, if I remember the lore correctly, only the Tang Mo of Akavir are "beasts"... The Tsaesci are men, The Ka Po'Tun are Mer. They just don't look like everyone else. And just because the khajiit have only faced man- or mer-based opposition doesn't mean their backup Jesus Missle is discriminate in who it determines as "enemies of the khajiit"...

The khajiit have a divine mission, which they hold as a secret to the world. If they get wiped out, Cthulhu will eat KPT for breakfast... Or a much worse scenario will come along. You have to remember, the people of Tamriel have a race that is quite renowned for its Dragon-slaying abilities... What will they do when some upstart Redguard who doesn't like the prospect of the KPT meddling in his life decides to go take out their living god and Dragon? History does repeat itself, after all...

Tsaesci are basically More wizard like civilized argonians on steroids.

And KPT are Superior more civilised Khajiit on steroids.

Tang mo are Monkeys, more civilised, and yes, on steroids.

And what exactly is going to happen? the actual god is going to come down and smite them? a new disease will come from a Khajiit ass and kill the KPT?
A single Redgaurd will defeat the largest dragon ever to walk on Nirn?

A small, weak province, will destroy a large, powerful AKAVIRI race?


We're talking like.. The U.S. Vs. 15 chinamen hiding in the woods.

Are you kidding? He wouldn't stop there... He'd brandish the head about and ask, "Who's next?"

Remember, pissed off redguards are like steriods on steroids. Especially when they are fighting for their homeland... And in the time it takes for the Ka Po'Tun to recover from their leader's critical existance failure, it could give the resourcefull khajiit enough of a foothold to secure the demise of the KPT... And the KPT are more like Dunmer without the fire resistance than Khajiit... Just because they have fur does not make them comparable to the Khajiit.

The Tsaesci have nothing in common with the argonians other than the scales... They are IMMORTAL! VAMPIRE! SNAKEMEN! not tree-licking newts.

I think it would be best not to focus on the unlikeliness of a complete KPT victory... Though I've been focusing on the Khajiit and Redguards (my two favorite races), none of the other races are pushovers either, with the possible exception of Imperials, who's special power seems to be primarily to take the blows that would otherwise go to the more important characters.

How would the mighty armies of the KPT react when they invade Skyrim and find three companies taken out because a certain Nord couldn't shut up...

Or the Altmer Psyjiics using their knowledge of magic to pretty much will the KPT army out of existance?

Or the fate of the KPT who hit a Bosmeri tender spot and end up on the menu for the Wild Hunt?

Or in Morrowind, the KPT choking to death in a storm of Ash and fire, while the Dunmer wade through the disabled armies with impunity...

Or those that dare venture into Argonia, where the trees decide they don't like these new kitty-cats? Or an invasion of High Rock, where they find themselves cut down by mounted Breton Knights, who upon being faced with a relentless barrage of KPT magic respond, "Stop it, that tickles!... My turn... HADOKEN!!!"

They would also be unwise to underestimate the other race native to high rock, as a bunch of super-hyped Orsimer remind the KPT of the drawbacks of Medium armor, and laughing because their armor is better, cooler, and just as mobile.

God forbid any enterprising Redguards or Dunmer decide to use those exotic relics left by the Dwemer, and possibly overpower the KPT hordes with moar dakka and humongous mecha.

I guess the Imperials could use their Voice of the Emperor ability to convince the KPT they'd be better off fighting others... or just turning their boats around and going back to Akavir... Or, if they are feeling particularly fiesty, halfway through a major battle, the formerly exhausted Imperial Legion suddenly strikes with renewed vigor when the front lines of the KPT find themselves passed out in the middle of a battle...

To lay on more... If the sload decide they hate the Akaviri more than they hate the Tamrielic races... Then in addition to Hammerfell's bad-asses, Skyrim's loudmouths, High Rock's Knights, Elsweyr's battlefield behemoths, Dunmer fanatics, Altmer super-wizards with game-breaker powers, Orcish invulnerable berzerkers, Bosmeri horrors, Scavenged robot armies, Hist bio-weapons, and the possibility of the Imperials pulling another Dragon out of their ass, the KPT will find themselves facing deathless Marines as well.

This could make an awesome RP... even if it does get recorded by Akaviri scholars as "Disaster at Hiroshima," because they make the exact same mistake Uriel Septim V did with his invasion of Akavir.

It may very well be that rather than the Imperial infighting making it an almost impossible situation for the empire to instead just hold back the forces of Tamriel from completely roflstomping the n00bs all the way back to Akavir.

Hope it isn't too late for me to express my interest in this.

About the whole Tamriel vs Akavir thing, I see Akavir being the clear winner. The different races, nations, and groups of Tamriel simply hate each other too much to work together easily. They would probably rather die alone than fight as a group.

The KPT on the other hand, I've always seen as a single, unified horde. Along with the other races of Akavir, they could probably beat most enemies, given enough time.

What about the Kamal?

The Empire is waning, but not dead... And though the Topal Bay may lead right into the heart of the Empire, it is held by Khajiit, Argonians, Sload, and Redguard Pirates... Looks like a good place geographically, but demographically its a nightmare of a landing point... Two of those races are entirely amphibious, so they would loose a few ships without even knowing what hit them.

Even as a unified hoard, they are going up against races that are so OPed in their own way Supersoldiers, like the KPT, are merely the status quo. This RP can either become the ultimate in fail if handled incorrectly (nerfing of all races except the Akaviri), but if handled like the more epic siege threads, can be awesome... We may need a different player to control the KPT than just the OP...

Perhaps the Akaviri invasion could rally the Empire to mobilization, but by that time the KPT are entrenched well enough to give us a good fight.

The concept of this, if played out right, is possibly more epic than Siege of Sentinal, but it can quickly become cheese if handled poorly.


Is it me, or after every major TES title, the involved province suffers a serious nerf? In Daggerfall, the Numidium and forces of the Underking were taken out along with the King of Worms... After Morrowind, Dagoth Ur, King Under the Mountain, was gone, along with the Dunmer gods, who held unimaginable power. After Oblivion, the empire was thrown into chaos, and Sheogorath was replaced by a noob(relatively speaking)... And Jyg is on the loose. Ah! The faction we are forgetting! The Knights of the Nine are not to be dismissed too readliy, being more diverse and powerful than even High Rock's knightly orders.

Every Tamrielic race has an ace up their sleeve, with the exception of the Khajiit, which have a wildcard on steroids instead.

Ok if this RP comes to life i wont be joining. To much hardheadedness.

The land of Akavir is the beast race continent, it clearly states that in several lore books. Look it up.

The men of Akavir are long dead, although they existed for a time, the only traces of the men of akavir are found in the future generations of families they married into in Tamriel (political gain and what not).

The Tsaesci are well and truely snake people, it is stated in several books. One comes to mind, where the Emperor (reman i think) and his potentate are in the arena watching a Tsaesci fight a heavily armoured warrior.

The Ka Po Tun are stated to look like tigers, not mer. They are a beast race.

Tang Mo are like the monkey people of Valenwood.

Kamal are snow demons, they wouldnt come into this. They may use the opertunity to try and conquer akavir but i doubt it, they would need to defrost first.






Thats what we know from lore. What Scow is saying seems to be conclusions he himself has come to.

What I've seen about the Men/Mer/Beasts thing on akavir is that although all three are considered "beast people" by Tamriel's visual standards, as far as their place in Nirn's monomyth, the Tsaesci are the men of Akavir. Though they are IMMORTAL! VAMPIRE! SNAKEMEN! historically they fill the same role in the creation cycle as the Men of Tamriel do. Same with the Ka Po'Tun, being furries, are mer for the exact same reason the Tsaesci are Men. Its all about their views of the Et'Ada and creation... I occasionally drop into the lore forum and read the threads over there.

Its not the appearance that defines what they are... its their roles and racial mentalities.

KPT wouldnt just walk in and destroy all of Tamriel,
They would take a nice bit of land, and then be severely struggling to gain more as Tamriel pulled out a few stops and began to lay it on.

Through sheer force a Ka Po' Tun + Tang Mo alliance would destroy Tamriel.
With good tactics and strategy?
It may turn into fighting them off and possibly invading Akavir.


ANd i agree, i dont think i can make this.
If anyone thinks they can, feel free to.
I'll try and find an easier one to make.

It seems illogical for them to attack a province in the middle of where they wish to invade.. If anything, they would take Summerset isle and launch an attack from there. Not go in the middle of enemy territory and span out, they'd be face by opposition on all sides and it would weaken them. =/ If the Ka Po' Tun had beaten the tscaeli, I'm sure they would've thought about this.

If they attacked Summerset Isle, the Altmer would remind them who are the better elves...