Turn off blood?

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:57 pm

Yea calling the cops on your parents is a great way to resolve issues like a $50 video game. And there is no chance they won't use the law to throw you out, or say unplug your computer from MY electrical outlet right?

If my post was taken seriously, I apologise.

If you're just picking up the stupidity of it and running, well played.
User avatar
laila hassan
 
Posts: 3476
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:53 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:07 pm

Damn.. I'm glad that my mother was open-minded when I got into games. She was an EMT and I think that's what helped her explain things to me regarding blood, guts, gore etc. My sisters and myself were never taught that blood was disgusting or anything. It's just part of the body. Nasty wounds, rotting flesh and all kinds of other things deemed "gross" were never a problem because we used to read her medical books together. If it were not for my mom, I wouldn't be completely numb to blood/gore lol.


similar situation here, and I've also been playing violent video games for most of my life and nothing ill has ever come of it. My parents have always been ok with that kind of thing, it's just part of the human body and I've never understood why it bothers some people so much
User avatar
Lily
 
Posts: 3357
Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:32 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:02 pm

People who are offended by blood, in my mind, must be pretty twisted in the head.


I mean, blood is just a bodily fluid? Where's the negative/violent connotation that switches off once blood is not visible?
User avatar
Sheila Reyes
 
Posts: 3386
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:40 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:32 pm

The whole controversy over blood is the fear kids will, by seeing tons of gory stuff, will become desensitized to violence and thus more inclined toward violence in real life.

I think.

Plus massive blood splurting out of someone is gross. :P

Anyway, I wouldn't mind an option to turn the blood off, but even if there isn't, the blood we've seen in the gameplay doesn't seem too much for me.
User avatar
how solid
 
Posts: 3434
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:27 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:04 pm

I mean, blood is just a bodily fluid? Where's the negative/violent connotation that switches off once blood is not visible?

I read "blood is just a bloody fluid", first. That made me smile. :laugh:

Anyway, adding blood to a generally violent act does makes the whole act appear more brutal indeed. Splatter- and Grindhouse-movies are building on this factor to display gore appropiately (in their sense).
This is why media always gets censored on the blood part first, rather than the actual killing acts.
User avatar
Averielle Garcia
 
Posts: 3491
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:41 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:29 pm

yea i hope that we can choose amount of blood but at the same time i hope we cant. i like alot of blood. but some people like little blood. so i could be fighting a guy and blood could block my vision of the guy behind him. but the 9 year old that turned off blood can see me just fiiine so it is not really fair that he just shoots me and i couldnt even see him. so i hope not sorry if this ruins your plans....
User avatar
roxanna matoorah
 
Posts: 3368
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:01 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:54 am

I read "blood is just a bloody fluid", first. That made me smile. :laugh:

Anyway, adding blood to a generally violent act does makes the whole act appear more brutal indeed. Splatter- and Grindhouse-movies are building on this factor to display gore appropiately (in their sense).
This is why media always gets censored on the blood part first, rather than the actual killing acts.


I think you've just amended my original point, it's personal opinion I guess. The addition of blood, and then even more blood detracts from the violence for me, it's make a game more silly and childish. I guess other people have the opposite opinion, and that is the issue.

I say, minimize the blood, just like in real life, now THAT is scary and brutal. None of this infantile super blood splatter stuff we see today.
User avatar
Calum Campbell
 
Posts: 3574
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:55 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:28 am

Almost no blood ;)
User avatar
LuBiE LoU
 
Posts: 3391
Joined: Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:43 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:00 pm

I think you've just amended my original point, it's personal opinion I guess. The addition of blood, and then even more blood detracts from the violence for me, it's make a game more silly and childish. I guess other people have the opposite opinion, and that is the issue.

I say, minimize the blood, just like in real life, now THAT is scary and brutal. None of this infantile super blood splatter stuff we see today.

ok i see your point but in real life when you knife someone in the neck they will bleed for like 10 minutes and it goes everywhere. so i find it childish when only a little bit of blood comes out....
User avatar
Jessica Nash
 
Posts: 3424
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:18 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:12 pm

yea i dont think it's a lot. nothin crazy like Killzone 3 or nothin.

Ha the first game you reference for blood is KZ?

Try Gears 2 dude.
User avatar
Gaelle Courant
 
Posts: 3465
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:06 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:17 pm

Ha the first game you reference for blood is KZ?

Try Gears 2 dude.

I believe you may have spelled "Mortal Kombat" wrong there.

The early games in the series, of course. Back when a single fight had more blood than the average Grindhouse film.
User avatar
Dean
 
Posts: 3438
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:58 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:09 pm

As far as my parents were concerned they thought that sheltering me from blood and stuff would actually make me a less aware and more naive person.

Blood is a reality, and killing is a reality. By exposing people to these elements in games we are not going to turn them into psychotic killers (anybody who does become a psycho from experiencing stuff in games was more than likely pre-disposed to violence beforehand anyway) Video games and TV shows do not create psychos they merely unlock them. At least thats how my family look at it.

Anyway back to point. I kinda think of it as if you are locked away from violence you may find it more thrilling when you finally experience it and therefore actually go out and use it. Most killers usually kill for the thrill of the kill, if you are desensitized to blood as if it is a regular occurence and a completely normal function then where is the thrill? Its normal so its like reading a book.
User avatar
Tarka
 
Posts: 3430
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:22 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:44 pm

If you are a wise parent, you can allow your kids at an early age to play what they want, then teach them that this stuff is wrong to do in real life and that it's just a game.

So, on the subject of blood, blood is not a big deal. The act of causing blood to be spilled is much worse than the blood itself. Plus, there is little to no blood in the game at all. So you are fine.
User avatar
Marguerite Dabrin
 
Posts: 3546
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:33 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:15 pm

As far as my parents were concerned they thought that sheltering me from blood and stuff would actually make me a less aware and more naive person.

Blood is a reality, and killing is a reality. By exposing people to these elements in games we are not going to turn them into psychotic killers (anybody who does become a psycho from experiencing stuff in games was more than likely pre-disposed to violence beforehand anyway) Video games and TV shows do not create psychos they merely unlock them. At least thats how my family look at it.

Anyway back to point. I kinda think of it as if you are locked away from violence you may find it more thrilling when you finally experience it and therefore actually go out and use it. Most killers usually kill for the thrill of the kill, if you are desensitized to blood as if it is a regular occurence and a completely normal function then where is the thrill? Its normal so its like reading a book.
i love AceDaH4xx0r

i agree completly.
User avatar
Josephine Gowing
 
Posts: 3545
Joined: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:41 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:02 pm

When I was 13 I hacked my right index finger open to the bone with a pair of scissors by accident. Pretty sure THAT is probably what desensitized me totally from in-game blood, sometimes gore... since in comparison to looking through rice-like body tissue (that's pumping out red ooze all over the desk whilst a class of people scream and I feel like I'm going to faint) to the very structure that holds my insides together, it's REALLY quite tame. Though ever since, the realistic sight of blood & deep or horrific injuries, or sometimes even just the implication, makes me sick to my stomach... hence why I very infrequently watch horror movies.

I guess where I'm coming from is that at such a young age I was more than capable of differentiating virtual reality violence in a fantasy world or scenario, and real-life human suffering or realistic depictions of it... and nothing's changed in 5 years, if anything I'm more aware and sensitive to it. I'll happily slaughter an army of pixelated peons in Dynasty Warriors, but the sight of another human in hurt or suffering causes me grief. Probably where my lack of understanding for OP's side of this topic comes from.

EDIT: I'd also like to add that from a very early age I was watching "scary" movies like The Mummy (which at the time was rated AO - advlts Only) and playing games rated higher than my actual age. My parents did draw the line at horrors and shooters, or stuff they hadn't seen themselves or if they weren't around to watch it with me.

And I've grown into a rather passive, sensitive human being. It's not impossible to expose children to violence without them turning into terrors or murderers.

EDIT EDIT:
The laws must be different over there because in the states it is just a rating system that limits the SELLER as to who they can and cannot sell the product to. Has nothing to do with consumption. A warped parent who wants to scar a child can let a 5 yr old watch a M rated horror flick legally in their own home.

It wasn't so much the existence of the laws around ratings and what can be sold to whom, more the sentiment of the rating decision from a government division that I was referencing.

It's the parent's house and power, yes. But the fact that the appropriate division of the establishment that runs the country, who for all I know probably employs or references those experienced in social/psychological studies (I wouldn't know, but I can only imagine) and will naturally have access to consensuses or surveys relating to video games/movies and crime or behavior, has confirmed the product as acceptable for the purchase/consumption of those aged appropriately... doesn't that say something?

Forcing your own ideologies upon your children (depending on what about and their age) when taking this into context seems almost as wrong as doing something like forcing religion upon them. Children need space to experience things for themselves and draw their own conclusions. I'm scared [censored]-less of dogs and I dread going into the CBD. Why? because my parents instilled paranoia within me about both as a child, by making it out like every dog I pat's going to rip my hand off, and every trip to the city will result in me being assaulted - when in reality the chances of both are slim. I do resent them a little about that for going overboard with it.
User avatar
RAww DInsaww
 
Posts: 3439
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:47 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:26 pm

Honestly, I'm pretty sure everyone growing up in this generation is numb to violence and blood, considering that's what makes up the majority of what's portrayed in movies and television shows. I just don't get how some parents think letting their children watch movies like 300 or television shows like The Walking Dead is okay, but letting them play shooters that require more skill than Call of Duty isn't.

EDIT: Fixed 'grammatical error.'
User avatar
Karine laverre
 
Posts: 3439
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:50 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:37 pm

Honestly, I'm pretty sure everyone growing up in this generation is numb to violence and blood, considering that's what makes up the majority of what's portrayed in movies and television shows. I just don't get how some parents think letting their children watch movies like 300 or television shows like The Walking Dead is okay, but letting them play Call of Duty isn't.


Well - If I was a parent, i wouldn't let my son or daughter play Call of duty, well because it does not require skill. I wouldn't spend tens of thousands of dollars feeding a baby waiting to become an unskilled troll who scream at their mics to get their point across.
User avatar
Stefanny Cardona
 
Posts: 3352
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:08 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:19 pm

Well - If I was a parent, i wouldn't let my son or daughter play Call of duty, well because it does not require skill. I wouldn't spend tens of thousands of dollars feeding a baby waiting to become an unskilled troll who scream at their mics to get their point across.


Uh...

:sweat:

Yeah I got owned, I won't contest it.
User avatar
Carlos Vazquez
 
Posts: 3407
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:19 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:40 pm

I see all your guy's point, but I cant just walk up to my parents and be like "I'm 16, and I should be able to play whatever age appropriate game I want". My parents would just look at eachother, laugh, then take away my computer. So its either no blood or no game... or I can buy the game install it on my computer, hide the icon, and play when my parents arent looking. But that plan would probably fail at the installation stage :P. Anyway I got a reply from Bethesda and they said that I should look at the Brink website and post my question on the forum... -.-
User avatar
Alyce Argabright
 
Posts: 3403
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:11 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:48 pm

I see all your guy's point, but I cant just walk up to my parents and be like "I'm 16, and I should be able to play whatever age appropriate game I want". My parents would just look at eachother, laugh, then take away my computer. So its either no blood or no game... or I can buy the game install it on my computer, hide the icon, and play when my parents arent looking. But that plan would probably fail at the installation stage :P. Anyway I got a reply from Bethesda and they said that I should look at the Brink website and post my question on the forum... -.-


If you're looking for someone to ask, I'd try asking Splash Damage directly, not Bethesda. Splash is the company actually developing the game.
User avatar
Blaine
 
Posts: 3456
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 4:24 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:39 am

DeathByJerm is correct
But wait a little to the release date, and also if you are not planning to pre order then, maybe you can ask the forums on the first day.
:)
good luck.
User avatar
Dawn Farrell
 
Posts: 3522
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:02 am

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:09 pm

OH! Thanks DeathbyJerm! I will email them. :thumbsup:

Edit: Oh good idea sSpadE, will do.
User avatar
Sudah mati ini Keparat
 
Posts: 3605
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:14 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:06 pm

I think you've just amended my original point, it's personal opinion I guess. The addition of blood, and then even more blood detracts from the violence for me, it's make a game more silly and childish. I guess other people have the opposite opinion, and that is the issue.

Well, there are different ways to display blood.

You can do it the 300 way, which is obviously exaggerated, or the Grindhouse way, which is sometimes not less exaggerated, but often a lot closer to reality.
User avatar
Soraya Davy
 
Posts: 3377
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:53 pm

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:39 am

Just watch the episode of P&T Bullshat on video games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKJj84SQia4, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YskcWRLnXao&feature=related, and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUSQOLXaoIU&feature=related.
User avatar
Jerry Cox
 
Posts: 3409
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:21 pm

Previous

Return to Othor Games