Turn the clock around?

Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:58 am

Well since fallout is now currently in the year 2281 its starting to feel less like 'Nuclear wasteland' and more like 'Everythings going to be fine!'
So I'm saying we should set the next game back in around 2087.
I know people are all like "You can't do that its not canon!" or "It woulden't be fallout without vaults or the BOS!" and "do you want another burned game?!"
1.dont set it on the west coast,set it around Florida,Carolina or Fort Knox.
2.I've often seen people saying they want new factions so it would be a good time to introduce them.
3.It would actually have the feel of trying to survive a Nuclear apoclypse rather then "oh I'm running low on ammo,time to go to this nearby merchant in this perfectly safe town".
4.We could maybe not start off in a vault or wearing a vault suit.
5.It would breathe some life into the series because,If it keeps going futher down the timeline,it will become stale.

Theres my opinion,How 'bout yours?
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:35 pm

Well since fallout is now currently in the year 2281 its starting to feel less like 'Nuclear wasteland' and more like 'Everythings going to be fine!'
So I'm saying we should set the next game back in around 2087.
I know people are all like "You can't do that its not canon!" or "It woulden't be fallout without vaults or the BOS!" and "do you want another burned game?!"
1.dont set it on the west coast,set it around Florida,Carolina or Fort Knox.
2.I've often seen people saying they want new factions so it would be a good time to introduce them.
3.It would actually have the feel of trying to survive a Nuclear apoclypse rather then "oh I'm running low on ammo,time to go to this nearby merchant in this perfectly safe town".
4.We could maybe not start off in a vault or wearing a vault suit.
5.It would breathe some life into the series because,If it keeps going futher down the timeline,it will become stale.

Theres my opinion,How 'bout yours?


they could easily set it in the current time period and still have a place like Florida. there's no need to go back in time. also there's already a thread for Fallout 4 suggestions i wouldn't be surprised if a mod moved this thread there.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:08 pm

I know what your saying, I'm finding surviving in a Nuclear Wasteland pretty much the same as living in Glasgow only thing thats different is I cant find people to buy guns from so easy.
As for travelling back in time, yeah I like this idea and to "avoid breaking canon" you could play a human who transforms into a ghoul when the bombs drop and show how major ghoul settlements form and survived in the radioactive lands with all the mutated creatures coming out of the dust, this could bring back many extinct creatures and unseen ones aswell.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:20 pm

they could easily set it in the current time period and still have a place like Florida. there's no need to go back in time. also there's already a thread for Fallout 4 suggestions i wouldn't be surprised if a mod moved this thread there.

This is not an idea for fallout 4,this is my opinion on where the series should go.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:19 pm

I know what your saying, I'm finding surviving in a Nuclear Wasteland pretty much the same as living in Glasgow only thing thats different is I cant find people to buy guns from so easy.
As for travelling back in time, yeah I like this idea and to "avoid breaking canon" you could play a human who transforms into a ghoul when the bombs drop and show how major ghoul settlements form and survived in the radioactive lands with all the mutated creatures coming out of the dust, this could bring back many extinct creatures and unseen ones aswell.


Would you notice the difference if Glasgow did get nuked? Other than the shortage of battered mars bars ;)

I really like the idea of playing as a ghoul from the start of a game. The only one that had this feature was the burned game, so to see it executed well would be fantastic.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:36 pm

I know what your saying, I'm finding surviving in a Nuclear Wasteland pretty much the same as living in Glasgow only thing thats different is I cant find people to buy guns from so easy.
As for travelling back in time, yeah I like this idea and to "avoid breaking canon" you could play a human who transforms into a ghoul when the bombs drop and show how major ghoul settlements form and survived in the radioactive lands with all the mutated creatures coming out of the dust, this could bring back many extinct creatures and unseen ones aswell.

You wouln't need to be a ghoul,normal people survived out of vaults. Randell Dean Clark
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:37 pm

Would you notice the difference if Glasgow did get nuked? Other than the shortage of battered mars bars ;)

I really like the idea of playing as a ghoul from the start of a game. The only one that had this feature was the burned game, so to see it executed well would be fantastic.

I honestly have never seen a battered mars bar but they sound awesome all the same lol As for appearance the city center would look worse but as for other schemes/areas there really would be no difference...They could use google maps street walker thing to get the layouts :turned:

The burned game....Brotherhood Of Steel ? :unsure:
Im sure if Bethesda did this it would be executed better than Interplays version, basicly they could be working with a blank slate since im sure theres no canon/history from betwen the Great War and Fallout 1.
I'd like to see a really dark eerie land scape ravaged by dust and lightning storms, it would really top the survival games list if done right :twirl:
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:10 pm

You wouln't need to be a ghoul,normal people survived out of vaults. Randell Dean Clark

You could but this to me would be a bit like the rest, with being a ghoul you could survive the radiation well before people left the vaults and if its not going to take ages when the humans leave the vaults you suffer abuse at their hands like many ghouls and mutants have. It would bring more of a unique experience to the game.
Randell Dean Clark means nothing to me btw, I'll wiki him in a sec.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:32 am

I honestly have never seen a battered mars bar but they sound awesome all the same lol As for appearance the city center would look worse but as for other schemes/areas there really would be no difference...They could use google maps street walker thing to get the layouts :turned:


I had a battered kebab the last time I visited, seems like a good idea at midnight when you've had a skinfull.

Yeah, by the burned game I mean BoS & I agree, Bethesda could do it so much better.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:54 pm

It'd be nice with a prequel for the east coast (that has a map node system so it can cover a larger amount of area).
But only if it's a one time thing to expand on the lore prior to the current date.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:42 pm

It isn't going to happen, at least with Bethesda. I am not bashing Bathesda here lol, they just have a thing about going back in the timeline. They just don't want to do that.

Fallout shows alot of progress. Fallout 2 shows even more and New Vegas yet even more. I see this as a good thing. People will rebuild. It is in our nature.

Fallout it was cities and tribes fighting one another. Fallout 2 it is larger factions trying to gain power. New Vegas it is now nations fighting for power and people stuck in the middle. "War. War never changes. ":fallout:
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:37 pm

Fallout it was cities and tribes fighting one another. Fallout 2 it is larger factions trying to gain power. New Vegas it is now nations fighting for power and people stuck in the middle. "War. War never changes. ":fallout:

So when one nation wins then take control of the entire country then what ?
Fallout dies because no wants the idea of it being foreign ?
They go back to the beginning and show how humanity/civilisation was rebuild ?

Fallout cant just keep going with what they have and if they do they only have maybe 2 or 3 games left because this timeline is going to get boring and predictable
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:05 pm

So when one nation wins then take control of the entire country then what ?
Fallout dies because no wants the idea of it being foreign ?
They go back to the beginning and show how humanity/civilisation was rebuild ?

Fallout cant just keep going with what they have and if they do they only have maybe 2 or 3 games left because this timeline is going to get boring and predictable


2 or 3 games? lol. they still have over 50% of America to do. You cant do that in 2 or 3 games. there is plent of space left and plenty of unknown to where they could keep going into the future and have many crazy new adventures.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:45 pm

Building on what styles said: perhaps they will keep building the factions bigger each game, and eventually history will repeat itself.

Maybe they could all start making more bombs, and a new "great war," could come to life.

That would really bring new meaning to "War. War never changes."

Everyone would be able to have their cake, and eat it too.

Although that might seem a bit anticlimactic. :shrug:
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:06 pm

I thought that Fallout 3 did a pretty good job with the whole survival experience. It was only 4 years before NV. If only they had added so much more to that game...

Maybe if they ever to get as far as 2400, they could say a new established China dropped some nukes on the arguing powers in America.Then in the game it could be that the Chinese then want America for their own, so there are Chinese guys everywhere, and they serve as the main antagonist

The chances of that hapening are really far out there so I doubt it will ever happen.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:51 pm

Building on what styles said: perhaps they will keep building the factions bigger each game, and eventually history will repeat itself.

Maybe they could all start making more bombs, and a new "great war," could come to life.

That would really bring new meaning to "War. War never changes."

Everyone would be able to have their cake, and eat it too.

Although that might seem a bit anticlimactic. :shrug:

Unless the NCR is sized down they'll pretty much have control over America if they get bigger. From the maps i've seen no other factions going to get any bigger to truly rival NCR. Unless theirs a whole nation taken over south and south eastern America.
As for another Great War, seems pointless since the people have seen the effects of the Atom since the games only in America so they will be nuking themselves ?
Fallout 3 had a base full of undetonated nukes so if Lyon's BoS find that place they have over 20 maybe nukes at their disposal...If they find out how to fire them away, far away
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:07 am

We still don't know what's going on in the rest of the world.

It's possible that an enemy could come from over the sea and try to take over.

Im not sure though, I feel like the world would eventually just break in to pieces.

Although, then we could have fallout games for EVAAAA :fallout:
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:08 pm

We still don't know what's going on in the rest of the world.

It's possible that an enemy could come from over the sea and try to take over.

Im not sure though, I feel like the world would eventually just break in to pieces.

Although, then we could have fallout games for EVAAAA :fallout:

Anyone coming over would propably be killed or imprisoned right away so nothing would happen unless they had working mobiles/radios/walky-talkies that could range that far. No-one really needs to come over seas anyway since there could be mutated sharks :chaos:
I dont see what your saying happening for atleast another few 100 years
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:23 am

Unless the NCR is sized down they'll pretty much have control over America if they get bigger. From the maps i've seen no other factions going to get any bigger to truly rival NCR. Unless theirs a whole nation taken over south and south eastern America.

The NCR is overexpanding anyway, as Marcus said ''That's how revolutions start''. I doubt they'll be able to function well for long.
And also, the Mojave Wasteland wasn't hit as badly as the rest of the US. House designed some anti-nuke missiles that shot some of them if I remember correctly. Just going out of the Mojave would be enough for a new game.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:16 pm

The NCR is overexpanding anyway, as Marcus said ''That's how revolutions start''. I doubt they'll be able to function well for long.
And also, the Mojave Wasteland wasn't hit as badly as the rest of the US. House designed some anti-nuke missiles that shot some of them if I remember correctly. Just going out of the Mojave would be enough for a new game.


From the start of the U.S. it took them less than one hundred years for them to get all the way out to the middle of the U.S. I don't think the NCR is moving at that kind of pace as they have about two states. From what other things the game tells me about their government being greedy or something like that, that is what will probally tear them apart then a revoltuion.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:20 pm

Anyone coming over would propably be killed or imprisoned right away so nothing would happen unless they had working mobiles/radios/walky-talkies that could range that far. No-one really needs to come over seas anyway since there could be mutated sharks :chaos:
I dont see what your saying happening for atleast another few 100 years


Okay, so it would take a few hundred years, but it may happen some day, after a few more games worth of rising action.

And I'm sure there's some communications satalite up there somewhere.

Pretty sure BOMB-002 is still in orbit, why shouldn't a telecomunications satalite be up there?

The chinese remnants could harness giant sharks and put lazer beams on their freaking heads.

Then they could ride said giant lazer sharks to america to take over :ahhh:

Or they could just ride the nukes over, all Dr. Stranglelove.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:17 am

Okay, so it would take a few hundred years, but it may happen some day, after a few more games worth of rising action.

And I'm sure there's some communications satalite up there somewhere.

Pretty sure BOMB-002 is still in orbit, why shouldn't a telecomunications satalite be up there?

The chinese remnants could harness giant sharks and put lazer beams on their freaking heads.

Then they could ride said giant lazer sharks to america to take over :ahhh:

Or they could just ride the nukes over, all Dr. Stranglelove.

:rofl: Just got an Austin Powers flash back :woot:
Yeah the satalites might still be floating around, but the stuff on the ground that used them could be wiped out. I've not seen a working TV since I went to D.C and NV :(
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:29 am

10 years wouldn't be enough time. There would be nothing in the game but radiation and vaults. Radiation would still be at pretty harmful levels and there wouldn't even really be roving bands of people let alone any kind of settlements at all. It would be boring and wouldn't really have a story or motivation.


I'd rather have a new fallout set around the same time as Fallout 1. Something like 80 to 100 years after the bombs fell. That way civilization is just starting to creep up again with small settlements and maybe a major town. I'd like to go back to the more personal story of fallout 1 and 3 rather than the huge epic of warring factions that new vegas was.

I agree that the farther in time the series gets away from 2077 the games will start to suffer. 400 years after the bombs fall and NCR could pretty much be the USA again.

EDIT: I also like the idea of everything coming full circle and a whole new nuclear holocaust happens. Beth should just rip off van buren and the end of the next game takes place on a nuclear missile space station and you get the choice to pretty much destroy the world and reset civilization back to zero again.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:25 am

Bethesda stated that they will not make prequels, just sequels

At this point, Fallout should end at least in 2 or 3 more games
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:38 pm

I'm not sure Bethesda can influence anything these days, considering that they don't own the Fallout franchise anymore.
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