Turning Off Gore -- Good Post (Bethesda Please Take Note)

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:55 pm

Is there a way to turn off gore and profanity on X360?

Every time someone asks this question, all the haters jump in. Some of them ask why anyone would want to play FO3 without gore. Others say, "Go play a Barbie game!" while others complain that there isn't enough gore. All of them want to show how stinkin' hard-core they are.

Well, haters, if you Google this subject, you will find lots of people asking the same question. At Fallout Nexus, the no-gore mod has over 2,000 downloads. Some people just don't enoy gore. Please get over it. Your hater-posts fill up the threads with too much noise. Okay, you love gore and profanity and you think people who don’t are stupid. We get it.

Now let me tell you some things that we non-gore, non-profanity folks really DO like about the game.

-- We love the clever twist on 50's American culture. I am old enough to remember when families were buying personal fallout shelters. I also remember having atomic-war drills in grade school where the teacher would have us get under our desks. What a hoot!

-- We love the consistency and attention to detail in the landscapes, buildings, objects, and environment. I could enjoy just walking around and looking at the FO3 world even without quests!

-- We love watching the story line develop and the mysteries slowly get revealed. We love how the writers have paid respectful homage to the rules of great storytelling.

-- We love the quirky sense of humor.

-- We love how everywhere you go in this post apocalypic world, there's still electricity. (I guess that's why my bills are always so high. The power company is investing in infrastructure that will really last!)

-- We love the fact that the creators were daring enough to use that music. It was a risk that really paid off.

-- We love playing in an environment modeled after a city with deep history in the real world. Having been to Washinton DC and visited the areas depicted in the game, it really adds a haunting sense of reality to exploring this stylized apocalypic world.

-- We love the sense of anticipation. Throughout the game, the Washington Monument stands off in the distance. In the early stages of the game, you have a sense that you will (or must) eventually reach the Monument, but you are so weak that there is no way you could get there alive. I couldn't wait to get there.

-- And much more than I want to go into here.

I’m 51 years old. I’ve been married 30 years. I have 8 kids, most of whom are now grown. I’ve seen some life. I play Fallout. I don’t enjoy profanity and gore. Is that okay with you?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:41 pm

Removing profanity is tricky, as dialogue is all recorded. On the PC console commands can be used to reduce gore, but I'm not sure if there are any options on the consoles.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:52 am

for consoles sadly you cant turn it off but on pc i think theres a mod or a console command but yeah i think it should be optional so more people can enjoy the game still i think its fun with gore but that shouldnt be forced on every one i think
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:16 pm

Well, Fallout is a franchise with profanity and gore.
I don't watch Naruto anymore because it had too much angst in it.

If you don't like a franchise for a certain aspect then why play it and ask for it to be changed?
I don't mind the idea of a no-gore/profanity toggle option in the menu.
But still, seems weird though, if you chose to play a franchise that had both then why ask for it to go away.
Would be like me time-traveling back and asking Peter Jackson to make a third Braindead cut that censored out all the gore.
If I didn't like the gore I simply wouldn't watch Braindead, maybe you shouldn't play Fallout? ¤

The older games, if you ever try them out, do have a no-gore option, but I think all profanity stays.

[edit]

Not saying "Go away!" with this one ¤, I'm just saying that if you don't like a certain aspect of something and it becomes such a concern that you take it to the forums then maybe you should reevaluate what you're playing in the first place and maybe find something that is your cup of tea rather than ask (possibly in vain) for it to be changed to your taste.

I'd say, tough it out, you're a grown man, you can take it.
And if you can't, then get it for PC and mod it.
If that's too expensive, then keep playing it on the console and be disturbed. (Cause Bethesda/Obsidian has moved on from Fallout 3/New Vegas, there won't be any toggle mode for censorship)
And if you still can't take the gore and profanity then, well, move on?

But what you're asking for won't happen.
So either learn to live with it or find a franchise that doesn't have such disturbing images.


[edit2]

Sorry, I thought this was in the New Vegas section. >_<
Still, same statement applies, just lemme tweak some parts.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:55 pm

I've done my research. I know there are few if any options for reducing gore on X360 and reducing profanity is out of the question. This is more in hope that Bethesda will consider my sector ot the market going forward. I know it adds expense to have voice actors record from two separate scripts and whatnot, but... well, we would sure appreciate it. But omitting the no-gore option from X360? That just seems weird.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:15 pm

I agree that there should be an option, even the earlier games had it.
But this is something you should suggest in Fallout 4 Suggestions And Speculations: http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1352810-fallout-4-speculation-suggestions-ideas-thread-54/
Not here.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:39 pm

@forbin
I think you might have misunderstood something about a no-gore option. There is none available for any platfrom. There are mods available for the computer that eliminate gore and profanity. However, you cannot add mods to the Xbox or PS legally. I believe there is a reduced gore version of Fallout 3 available, but it is the German version.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:55 pm

Thanks for the reasonable replies. I guess my main point is that some people see gore as "part of the franchise" and there is certainly an argument to be made for that. However, many people don't see it that way. There's so much to the games to enjoy that an opposite argument can be made that gore should be an optional component of the franchise. The same conversation could be applied to the city of Las Vegas itself (I'm a 35-year Nevadan). Some people might say, "If you don't like nudie bars, stay out of Vegas. It's part of the franchise." But there's much more to Vegas than its seamy side, and visiting that side is totally optional.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:10 am

By the way, part of my rant was in hope that Bethesda would take note for future reference, but my question about mods is still legitimate, hence my posting here. I am aware that the PC version has a bDisableAllGore=1 option that will turn off most combat gore. I was wondering if a tool like Modio could be used to do something similar on X360, that's all. :-)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:33 pm

U make sum good points. Too bad U have ta start off on a tangent defendin' yoself befo anyone even says anything. U wonder why haters are hatin' on U? Maybe its cause U askin' em to.

I'd like to see the option ta disable gore. Not that I'd ev' use it, but mo options is good. Turnin' off gore really ain't 1st priority though. Shouldn't they properly test they games, fix bugs & glitches & stuff befo they release they games 1st? They can't even get that right. They thinks its ok to puts internet band-aids on da games. They think its ok fo they consumers to do they test work. Until they start releasin' games that have been properly tested/fixed I wouldn' be askin them ta do shiznit.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:54 pm

Grouse, I was reacting to the many other posts I've seen from other people asking this same question. I have seen it asked many times on the Internet and every time the haters jumped on the asker. I was just trying to head that off at the pass. :-)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:00 pm

I really don't understand why there isn't a "gore toggle" like in the earlier games.

Profanity is something that I think should not go away since life in the wasteland is more often than not on the fringe. People are less educated (for the most part) and live a harsh frontier life, so it makes sense they end up speaking and acting very crass. If you take notice the people who don't use a lot of profanity are the people who were educated or part of more advanced societies. in Fallout 3, Col. Autumn, James and the other scientists, Tenpenny, Brotherhood scribes etc. use very little to no profanity denoting their more civilized upbringing. Whereas the Settlers of Megaton, Arefu, etc have profanity more ingrained in their way of talking because they live in a far less civil environment and therefore don't have the same attitude toward profanity as the more civilized people do. Basically, to me, taking away the profanity would change the personality and tone of a lot of the people of the wasteland.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:41 am

And Transmission, your points are all well taken.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:49 pm

always shoot for the torso
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:34 pm

Thanks Gamrx, that's actually what I've been doing. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 12:03 pm

Some people see gore as "part of the franchise" and there is certainly an argument to be made for that. However, many people don't see it that way.
Well when it comes to "the franchise" those people are actually wrong, the developers for Fallout 1 designed it as gore'y as they could because they wanted to have over the top gore.
They still included a no-gore option, but gore is heavy part of Fallout's feel, if someone doesn't like gore that's fine but if they say "It's not part of the franchise" then they're dead wrong.
Other aspects matter too, but over the top gore is one of Fallouts longest running aspects which has been kept (somewhat) intact.

On that note, a no-gore option should be a part of the franchise, Bethesdian! Stop slacking, give those less comfortable with gore an option to turn it off, or are games from prior to 2000 more advanced?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:51 am

Gabriel77Dan, based on your last sentence I think we're on exactly the same page.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:10 pm

Dat we are, I have no problems with optional features if they can enhance people's gameplay experience.
In Project Nevada there is an option for Dismemberment chance, so it can't be that hard to implement into the game.
As to already preexisting gore, like ehm.. Raiders and their nice decor, super mutant "gore bags" and other bloody parts, making that optional could be harder.
I suppose tagging all those gore objects of the game with a certain trigger and assigned said trigger to a two-part system where "on" means they're visible and hard objects while "off" means they're invisible and non-collisional objects could work.
Then again, I'm not too familiar with either the GECK or Creation Engine so it might not be as easy.

But it's something they should take into consideration for Fallout 4, definitely.

Tip:
If you aren't too disturbed by ashes or goo you could use Energy Weapons, it still has dismemberment chance but it often turns enemies into a pile of ash or pile of goo. And the animation isn't too graphic.
Otherwise, like GAMRX said, aim at their chest, don't pick Bloody mess as a perk and try not to use super weapons on weaker enemies. (Like using a Combat Shotgun at close up range on a molerat, that is rather messy.)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:47 am

I’m 51 years old. I’ve been married 30 years. I have 8 kids, most of whom are now grown. I’ve seen some life. I play Fallout. I don’t enjoy profanity and gore. Is that okay with you?

Nothing against it. An option to turn it off would be fine by me. As long as it is an option.

Fallout 3's level is fine for me personally, but its not like I really look for it. I'm not missing Skyrim's lack of dismemberment for instance.

If you aren't too disturbed by ashes or goo you could use Energy Weapons

I second this.

But I'd suggest using energy weapons no matter what you do. That's just me though.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:02 pm

I've done my research. I know there are few if any options for reducing gore on X360 and reducing profanity is out of the question. This is more in hope that Bethesda will consider my sector ot the market going forward. I know it adds expense to have voice actors record from two separate scripts and whatnot, but... well, we would sure appreciate it. But omitting the no-gore option from X360? That just seems weird.
Having two separate dialogue scripts would not just add to the expense, but also take up more data storage space on the disc that could be used for other things. Would it be game breaking if BGS added a feature to bleep out the profanity and having someone call you a "bleepity bleapity blankhole" instead? (Anyone get the reference?)
And I do wonder what happened to the no gore options & settings that seemed to be more prevalent in older games.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:06 am

And I do wonder what happened to the no gore options & settings that seemed to be more prevalent in older games.

I think graphics ate into the dev time for things like that
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:04 am

I am all for a option to turn gore and blood down as well as swearing. But just there should also be an option to turn gore and blood up, like we can in Fallout Tactics.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:54 pm

Not that I've found but I tell you I was surprised to find the language and gore options in GOW3
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:47 am

I am all for a option to turn gore and blood down as well as swearing. But just there should also be an option to turn gore and blood up, like we can in Fallout Tactics.

You mean like the option to gut and hang those little pipsqueak brat faces ?

To tone this game down would have to totally be a rewrite.

Do the bodies hanging on chains with hooks not disturb? What about the option to walk up and blow away the guys beging for water?

And one Dave mentioned ... being able to beat on the head of the behemoth corpse till the top of his head popped off.

Turning gore (ragdoll animation) off and getting rid of profanity are merely a drop in the bucket of the slow progressive steps to turn this game into Zelda.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:15 pm

I come from the land of censorship, wich happens to be next to Nevada. And guess what , They have a very high rate of domestic violence , meth users and basically F'ed up people.
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