Tutorial dungeon changed by mod : IV

» Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:27 pm

I have a problem finding which mod changed tutorial dungeon - some wild edits that removes part of dungeon so I can fall down. I can check it out in TES4Edit but I have to know what is the worldspace name for it (wasn't able to find it in Cell records - I belive it was in ImperialDungeon05 Natural Caverns).

Can you point me to that Worldspace?

BTW Here's my load order in case someone knows the culprit mod by any chance.

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

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SI.esp  [Version 1.34]1B  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]1C  Skyrimized Water HD BLUE eng.esp  [Version 1.8.]++  Skyrimized Waters HD BLUE - SI Addon.esp1D  Idle Dialogue.esp  [Version 1.3]++  Symphony of Violence.esp1E  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp1F  Side's EAX Control.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Diverse Voices.esp  [Version 0.1a]20  PCSoundKensai.esp  [Version 2.7]21  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]22  Rainbows.esp23  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]24  WindowLightingSystem.esp25  00crystalTorch.esp26  300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp27  AliveWaters.esp28  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp29  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp2A  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp2B  bgShaderStandAloneEV.esp  [Version 1.0EV]++  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp2C  DaedricDictionary.esp2D  Hot Coffee and Tea-Base.esp2E  ImprovedSigns.esp2F  Lamps of Oblivion.esp30  Personality Idles - Modified version.esp  [Version 1.5]31  P-Froggys First Person Body.esp  [Version 1.0a]32  Camping.esp33  PTFallingStars.esp34  Q - 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Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]50  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]51  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]52  DLCSpellTomes - OBSEfixer.esp**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp53  AlternativeLightArmors12.esp++  Better Unique Items.esp54  Blue-Glass-Extra-Set.esp++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp++  doofdillas_potions_recolored_sorted_v0_3_1.esp  [Version 0.3.1]55  Ghogiels Armor.esp56  Noviere's Gray Fox Armor.esp57  PTArtifacts.esp58  RZWPortableCandles.esp59  strotisNewFood.esp5A  The Eltonbrand Remade.esp5B  mz_Shields_SI.esp5C  WarriorBandages_V2.0.esp5D  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp5E  CallMount.esp5F  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp60  MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp61  DLCThievesDen.esp62  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]63  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.11]64  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]65  Fran Armor Add-on.esp66  Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 5.0]67  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]68  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]69  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp  [Version 5.0]6A  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp  [Version 5.0]6B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]6C  Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp  [Version 5.0]6D  Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp  [Version 5.0]6E  Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp  [Version 5.0]6F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]70  Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp  [Version 5.0]++  Francesco's Optional Skill Based Damage & Durability.esp  [Version 4.5B]71  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]72  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Harvest[Containers] - 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» Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:52 pm

Pretty full LO. Nothing I see is suggestive to your problem with the tutorial dungeon, but I am not familiar with most of that list. Have you considered something like 'http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1232148-relz-alternative-beginnings-thread-2' to skip over it?

Just running through some basics on the off-chance:

Have you run it through BOSS? I haven't seen the DLCs that low in the order before, but it just might be due to the mods you have in use.

Suggest you upgrade from 'Progress' to 'http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1257335-relz-fundament', it's replacement by the same author. It will save you a couple of slots.

I also don't see the 'http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1399201-relz-unofficial-official-mods-patch-v17', which fixes problems with the DLCs.

Switching to Fundament should give you the slots you need for AB and UOMP. If you haven't already, suggest you also try using CBash to build your Bashed Patch. That should free up even more slots.

-Dubious-