Last time I checked you can't make someone who weighs 300 pounds?
And it has nothing to do with brute strength. If you think it does, you pretty much just proved that you have never swung a 2 handed weapon. It's about balance. Coordination. Depth Perception while extruding that much force.
Can I "swing" a claymore with 1 hand? Sure bud. But I wont be hitting anything that I'm trying to hit, especially not a moving target.

Dude stop trying to sound right, if a weaker man with the coordination etc can do what you spoke of with a one handed weapon, and larger man can use a two handed weapon the same way as a one handed weapon given he has the coordination etc, and the STRENGTH.

Incorrect. http://www.gym-trainer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ronnie-coleman.jpg (Multi Mr Olympia winner) proved this, you can find the video on youtube. He tries to swim a sledge-hammer as if it were a 1 handed sword. He cannot do it with anything remotely resembling "accuracy".
He's like..6 foot 8, 345 pounds. Please stop spreading misinformation.
And no one is trying to "sound right", it's just called common sense. Swinging a 2 handed weapon in 1 hand is a thing of fantasy.

No, thats why its called "two handed"

Yea, because casting a healing spell is realistic. Give me a break.

Please post a video. I said stop trying to sound right because I was upset and I apologize but I am sure that swinging a two handed weapon with one hand is doable. It is not that big a deal. Plus Ronnie Coleman is 5'10. Someone not as strong as him, but a good deal taller could probably do it. I mean an average weight for a claymore is 5.5 pounds. It is not as big a deal as you are making it out to be.

If you guys ever played Sacred, you will see a very realistic use of the claymore and other twohanded weapons. They were often wielded in just one hand, but the swing is ridiculously slow, its like a sledge or a timber axe. You swing it once every 15-20 seconds. It's heavy as hell, but onehanded nonetheless.

I'm not posting a video because I know what's true and what's fantasy. If you want to find it, go find it. It's there for your amusemant.
And 5 pounds spread across 50+ inches is a "big deal". Especially counting other weapons such as maces or axes that are top heavy, throwing you off even more. Sorry, but it's not practical.

Thank you.


So show me proof to back up what you are saying. And no it is not a big deal, again I am sure a large enough man could swing a two handed weapon like a one handed weapon no problem. Even I (5'10) can probably do this as long as I practiced.

The reason for this is that a sledgehammer isn't balanced. It's extremely top heavy. Sledge-hammers are an extremely poor example, because even onehanded weapons are highly balanced (those that aren't, are not used in one hand if they're above a certain critical weight).

OP how is it unrealistic to not be able to cast a spell/use a shield with a 2 handed weapon? The very idea of casting healing spells is unrealistic to begin with.

No one said it was "impossible", I said it was impractical. Which it is. Im sorry, but in a combat situation, being so "heavy" as you describe, meaning you lack great agility, you're going to "whittle" away your foes with massive hits once every 20 seconds..?
You're just pulling straws here and arguing semantics. It's not PRACTICAL. End of story. You'd die before you got your second swing off.
Stop arguing truth.

lol, he's obviously talking about what is supposed to make sense within the context of those natural laws (the TES universe).

Not if you block the opponent with your shield

Or cast a shield spell...but I digress. I think the new system makes sense and is for the better.

its called two handed for a reason, it takes up both hands

So you propose that they remove all uniqueness of one handed weapons? That's a terrible idea.

I think the best way is:

- simply sheath the two handed weapon, and when you have it sheathed, your shield will be equipped automatically. Morrowind kind of had this. You could have a shield and a two handed weapon equipped at the same time, but the shield only showed up when the two handed weapon was sheathed.

^well the OP is also wantin magic with the 2-handed weapon aswell. i think its fine as is as long as the hotkeys work as they did in oblivion.

That's perfect. I guess what they need to do then is give you the ability to wield a shield with no other weapon out. The difference between sheathing your weapon and hitting a hot key is minute, anyway.

Ok, so are you going to ask your attacker "hey, hold on a sec!. Let me get my shield off my back. Ok, now I blocked you, let me put my shield back on my back so I can whack you with my sword".?
You say "probably", as in obviously you really don't know. I tell you what, try this lil' experiment:
Swing a bat a few times.
Attach trash can lid (which is waaayyy lighter than a shield) and strap it on your back.
Swing the bat a few times.
Tell me the difference between swinging the bat with and without the trash can lid on your back.
And while you are at it, between swings, take the lid off your back and pretend to block something, then put it back on your back.
Tell me how fast you did it.

You think about it: if the shield is not secure on your back, when you swing, especially with a 2 handed sword, it is going to swing left to right and disturb further swings, maybe even hurt you.. If it is properly secured, you won't be able to quickly unfasten it to use it to block.
The only practical way to carry a shield into battle, in on your arm. Period.

Yeah, arrows were shot when armies were engaged...You not only kill the enemy, but your troops as well. BRILLIANT! Please...





Actually, he knows what he's talking about. It is just not about the weight, but also leverage and momentum. Simple physics. The longer the blade is in relation to the length of your arm, and the further away the center weight is from your hand, the harder it is to wield, no matter how strong you are.

You can have the shield on your back, this will give you additional armor protection from shots from behind as it does in Mount and Blade.
Main reason to use a twohand sword with both hands is increased control and leverage, you could use a claymore one handed and probably hit pretty well however you would use far longer getting the blade up again and no chance of block well.

Sorry but I disagree. When I said 300 I was talking about being able to bench 300 pounds, not be 300 pounds. Besides that even if you were that heavy I think there are bery agile people who are VERY heavy. With practice and strength I think you can easily use a two handed weapon with one hand.

Yes yes, you disagree. You disagree with any logic or common sense regarding this issue. I'm done arguing with you since you can't comprehend reason or simple common sense regarding physics.
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How about thinking out of the box? You do not have to do the things you say above when you are fighting with someone, you pop out your shield when you see an archer, and when you get close enough you can just drop the shield and chop off their arm how about that?

Dude I don't need to try that out with a bat and trash can lid, I can try it out with the real thing. I know I would be right, and you don't have to strap it back to you back when you are done, you can leave it like I said on the ground. Think realistically.

And yes you can have archers fire arrows at the opposing army where you own army troops are not currently.

About the other guy, again like I told him "With practice and strength I think you can easily use a two handed weapon with one hand."