Two Handed Weapon AND SHIELD

Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:21 am

Hi everyone,

I hope dev(s) come across this and make it possible to equip shields with two handed weapons. Realistically if I fought with a claymore, I would have a shield on my back in case a/some archers started firing at me. I would be able to hold my claymore with one hand and block in coming arrows. This would not only be for archers also against anyone/thing with a POWERFUL hit and/or against fire from a dragon and/or magic from a wizard.

Also for just having a shield equiped when not in battle in case someone/thing attacks you out of nowhere, so you can raise you shield and block fast.

EDIT - Also this is PRIMARILY about being able to equip and block with a shield while equipped with a two handed weapon, and after putting the shield on your back being able to fight again with your two handed weapon.

ALSO EDIT - A secondary could be having a perk being able to fight with a two handed weapon one handed and only after you have 100 strength and 100 endurance, and you take a penalty to damage output, and not be able to do perhaps some two handed attacks.

I really hope this gets implemented. Also devs please check out - http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1159022-tes-v-skyrim-new-things-that-should-be-imo/

Thank you,

Knight777
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:26 am

Yes please.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:11 am

Maybe a perk once you obtain enough strength to use a claymore one-handed with a shield.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:21 am

Maybe a perk once you obtain enough strength to use a claymore one-handed with a shield.

I think claymores average weight is about 5.5 pounds, I don't think it should be a perk. MAYBE fight with a claymore one handed could be a perk though :)
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:58 pm

Maybe a perk once you obtain enough strength to use a claymore one-handed with a shield.


Would you still use the 2-handed skill? Cause if not then that'd be pretty pointless as you probably wouldn't be as skilled with 1 handed weapons.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:47 pm

Well you can already block with 2hs, it just won't be as effective as a sword and shield. Having a shield with a 2h would be kind of OP, and I know, it's single-player (who cares) but it'll make players feel that 1h sword and shields are obsolete compared to a 2h and shields.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:11 pm

I think claymores average weight is about 5.5 pounds, I don't think it should be a perk. MAYBE fight with a claymore one handed could be a perk though :)


That was a little contradictory, but I think we're on the same page. I think its a good perk for a heavy hitting Nord.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:14 am

Well you can already block with 2hs, it just won't be as effective as a sword and shield. Having a shield with a 2h would be kind of OP, and I know, it's single-player (who cares) but it'll make players feel that 1h sword and shields are obsolete compared to a 2h and shields.

True, maybe it could be a perk only when youve reached 100 strength and 100 endurance if you wanted that...but important part is not that it is just being able to equip and block with a shield.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:39 am

I could see a perk later on in the game, but the reason they don't let you equip a shield now with a two handed weapon is that a two handed weapon requires two hands. Claymores and polearms and the like are really big f**king heavy things and they can't be used effectively with just one arm- so unless you're shiva, I'm guessing it'll be a no go.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:11 am

True, maybe it could be a perk only when youve reached 100 strength and 100 endurance if you wanted that...but important part is not that it is just being able to equip and block with a shield.

Well if 2h gets a perk like that, then 1h and shield should get an equally powerful perk, to maintain the balance between the 2 combat styles.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:54 am

By definition a two handed weapon is used in... Two hands.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:50 pm

By definition a two handed weapon is used in... Two hands.

Please read my OP again for two edits.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:04 am

I could see a perk later on in the game, but the reason they don't let you equip a shield now with a two handed weapon is that a two handed weapon requires two hands. Claymores and polearms and the like are really big f**king heavy things and they can't be used effectively with just one arm- so unless you're shiva, I'm guessing it'll be a no go.

Please read my OP again for two edits. Also they were not that heavy, you could hold in one hand while you block.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:00 am

I like the shield/back idea.

Nah to everything else.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:21 am

Well if 2h gets a perk like that, then 1h and shield should get an equally powerful perk, to maintain the balance between the 2 combat styles.

Could be good, but read my OP again for two edits, there would be downsides to a perk like that too...
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:30 am

Please read my OP again for two edits. Also they were not that heavy, you could hold in one hand while you block.

I suppose there could be a mod or later implement that would allow a third quick-draw slot for your character that a shield could be placed in. This would make switching to a shield a lot easier and more realistic for blocking in the way that you're describing it. I could see it happening, but I think that if the developers haven't implemented it now, it probably won't come in the initial release, and you'll have to wait for additional mods or DLC.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:33 pm

Please read my OP again for two edits.

I did, and it still sounds like you would stop holding that 2h weapon 2h for a bit, then start using a shield, and then stop.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:12 pm

True, maybe it could be a perk only when youve reached 100 strength and 100 endurance if you wanted that...but important part is not that it is just being able to equip and block with a shield.

By the time you are at 100 strength and 100 endurance, you probably won't have to be blocking with a shield while using a two handed weapon.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:51 am

I suppose there could be a mod or later implement that would allow a third quick-draw slot for your character that a shield could be placed in. This would make switching to a shield a lot easier and more realistic for blocking in the way that you're describing it. I could see it happening, but I think that if the developers haven't implemented it now, it probably won't come in the initial release, and you'll have to wait for additional mods or DLC.

No third slot needed, put it in the normal slot where a one handed weapon's shield would go...about implementation. You may be right but I hope it is in right away...we are still about 7 months away...
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:34 am

I did, and it still sounds like you would stop holding that 2h weapon 2h for a bit, then start using a shield, and then stop.

Yea but you don't have to eternally hold a two handed weapon two handed!! You could hold it in one hand until you finish blocking with the shield, and then put it on your back and continue fighting with the two handed weapon. Maybe even have an option to drop the shield for a faster two handed weapon attack when you are done blocking.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:25 am

By the time you are at 100 strength and 100 endurance, you probably won't have to be blocking with a shield while using a two handed weapon.

I like to play with realism :) Plus if you are going up against multiple foes you probably would stll have too yes.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:28 am

Yea but you don't have to eternally hold a two handed weapon two handed!! You could hold it in one hand until you finish blocking with the shield, and then put it on your back and continue fighting with the two handed weapon. Maybe even have an option to drop the shield for a faster two handed weapon attack when you are done blocking.


Sounds like you want to go to the inventory, equip shield, then reequip sword.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:05 am

I like to play with realism :) Plus if you are going up against multiple foes you probably would stll have too yes.

So you want to break the skill system?
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:02 am

the only thing i agree with is having the sheild on the back
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:21 am

While realistically you can hold a two handed weapon with one hand, in the game you lose the ability to do so for balance reasons. It's the same reason you can't block when you wield a spell/weapon. Two-handed is about sacrificing the defense of a shield to swing a powerful weapon around. Being able to wield it one handed with a shield effectively makes one handed weapons pointless.
Maybe there could be a perk for it, but in my opinion it still sounds unbalanced.
Nothing is stopping you from using a shield anyway. Just carry one around and assign it to a hotkey and use it as you need to. Same principal.
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