Two Skyrim BugsGlitch Questions : V

» Mon May 12, 2014 2:59 am

Two questions for anyone on the Xbox 360 (or anyone on different platforms who might know the answers):

1.) Does anyone else have the cell problem on the local map where the fog returns over places you've already explored (i.e., Riverwood, Whiterun, etc.) once you have fully uncovered them? After uncovering all the houses and such, I would check the map, and there would be a fresh black square on a part of the map I had previously walked over, and I've always been annoyed by that. I'm not sure if this is a common problem or not, but after owning this game since it came out and never having anywhere to ask about it, I was curious if that's just me or not.

2.) After the main quest, "Diplomatic Immunity," does anyone else experience a bug with Malborn as well? After escaping the Embassy and leaving the cave, I decided to follow him, Brelas, and Etienne because they would always die when I tried fast traveling, and after spending forever protecting them from horkers and slaughterfish, I managed to get to a split where Etienne took off down one path and the other two headed to Windhelm. I followed those two, and they entered the city, but when I entered it, Brelas had vanished, and Malborn immediately turned around and ran outside. I followed him, and he ran all the way back to the cave under the Embassy, and when I went in, he was running against the wall as if trying to get back up on the ledge to go back inside. I left, and when I came back in, he was gone. Wondering if that's normal or not, because I know there's a quest involving him and Brelas if they live afterwards, but both just vanished from the game it seemed like, while I forgot about Etienne but later saw he had lived because I found him in the Thieves Guild. But that quest with Malborn involves killing a Khajiit spy in the caravan outside of Windhelm I believe, and despite never being able to start it or ever going to that caravan, I've found that Khajiit (not the female spy one from the main questline) appearing all the way in Riften following me around, which was pretty creepy. Not sure if that's just the game or what that's preventing me from being able to do that quest, so any help would be appreciated.

Sorry if this has already been posted elsewhere.. I've tried Googling these answers numerous times, but I've never gotten an answer or seen anyone else talking about this. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

» Mon May 12, 2014 12:42 pm

1) I've never noticed that problem, personally. There seems to be others that have experienced something similar here: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/504047-black-squares-on-local-map/ It appears to be a bug that cannot be fixed; some people claim that the same issue occurred with the local map in previous ES titles too.

2) From what I've read, Brelas appears to be simply be removed from the game at some point once she reaches Windhelm; apparently other than her part in Diplomatic Immunity she doesn't serve any other purpose in the game, so saving her doesn't really amount to anything. These NPCs do die easily and saving them can be a challenge. Malborn should eventually route to Windhelm (after a day or two), assuming he doesn't get killed along the way. Following him seems to increase the chances that he will be killed. His quest should be able to be completed if he safely reaches Windhelm. More information about Malborn's quest can be found here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Find_the_Thalmor_Assassin

» Mon May 12, 2014 1:39 am

You're lucky that you haven't had to experience it. It's really annoying for exploration purposes.

As for the second part, I read that about Brelas as well, and that makes sense that she disappeared as soon as she entered the gates. I was just confused because both the wikipedia sites say she hangs around that New Gnisis Cornerclub like Malborn, yet I've never seen her there any time I've played after that quest. As for Malborn, that's the problem: Every time I have ever fast traveled in the game, neither he nor Brelas ever appeared in the Cornerclub where they were supposed to be. Figured that meant they both died on the way there, which is why I followed them to protect them. It took forever, and I managed to finally do it, but then Brelas disappeared as mentioned. Then, Malborn immediately ran out of the gates and all the way back to the Thalmor Embassy's cave and disappeared as well because I followed him there to see what the heck was going on. I'm just going to assume the game is bugged and randomly does stuff like this at times. Only major bug I've had any problems with, though, and because it involves a quest, it's pretty unfortunate.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it.