I believe its said in game that the moot cannot be called while the province is in the state of war.

Which makes a ton of sense given that half the jarls are with the empire and the other half with Ulfric, the moot may even end with bloodshed.

I'm sure glad that one of the two major political parties in the US don't plunge the country into civil war when they look set to lose the election. Hitler did something quite similar, he would boycott the assembly and prevent anything from being decided, stealthfully assassinating and imprisoning rivals until he had enough votes to get what he wants. What is the point of a moot if by this logic it is ruled? Ulfric was found to be less popular and so he starts a civil war to take by force what he couldn't in peace and legitimacy.

It's sort of hard to protect people by sacking Whiterun and deposing the Jarl for simply wanting to stay neutral. I don't see anyone else going around assassinating High Kings, starting wars, and refusing moots to be called. Ulfric has an army because he couldn't get what he wants peacefully ; IE power. When democracy doesn't go your way, start killing people, right?

Yep, It is said like that.

I bet there will be... The Dova would be quite annoyed

Indeed. Sounds like the http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictatorship After all, it takes a Savage with a loud voice to rule the other backward savages.

Ulfric had no chance at the moot, which is why he openly admits to preventing one when he killed the High King. He knew he didn't have the support to beat Lady Elisif after outraging so many with his little stunt, and so resorted to violence; killing the holds until he could replace enough of them to vote for him. Quite similar to the Soviet election process really.

Oh, So Skyrim is America now?

You are adamant in demonizing Ulfric aren't you? If major political party A in the US was allowing a foreign power to dictate our lives and send their men to kidnap religious people, I'd fully support party B in a civil war.

Ulfric wasn't found to be less popular.

Let me rephrase that to "extremely adamant". Can we please keep the real world out of this?

Well in Skyrim the strongest individual rules the masses (with their support preferably). Its either the LDB or Ulfric.

Must be a glitch.

America has never had a dictator, all of our officials have been elected without an army behind them, so please by all means take your anti-ism someplace else.

Except it's not that clear cut as in your biased example. The Empire is not restricting Talos worship because of malevolent intentions. It was done as a necessity, given the circumstances.

It will soon.



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I'm on the side of the Valenwood Elves

Except this is where the actual problem lies. Those who support the Stormcloaks think the Empire gave up prematurely. At least I think that's what they say.

And neither has Skyrim to my knowlege.

Heevnorak thinks different when Ulfric is elected.

Ulfric thinks the Empire is dragging Skyrim down with it, and thus what is best for Skyrim in his mind is throwing them out. Looking at the political situation in Skyrim, there are no one else who will do that. Most Jarls were staling, until, as far as I can tell, the High King was killed and they were forced to take a side. The only one who tries to be neutral is Balgruuf.

Does Ulfric desire the throne? Sure, I find that likely. However, I don't think it is that one-dimensional. A few other things I see at work are:
- Lack of faith in the Empire
- Hatred of the Thalmor, who are allowed to roam under the WGC
- Bitterness after the Markarth Incident
- The belief that the Nords have become weaker under the Empire and have to become strong again

I didn't say a thing about the Empire's intentions. Of course they didn't do it for evil purposes, but that sure as hell doesn't mean that the people of Skyrim (who had no word in the decision) should just let it go.

You conveniently ignore several issues, such as the Empire doing everything it can to ignore enforcing the Talos ban until Ulfric started making a fuss about it to draw Thalmor attention. As typical of a stormcloak, you confuse the Empire with the Thalmor and lash out at something that was about to launch a campaign against them, as part Tullius and Rikkes dialogue, and just like a typical stormcloak you are short-sighted to an extreme. Nazi Germany just conquered the world and invaded the US, occupying most of it and only after an exceptionally bloody campaign is pushed out in a phyric victory, only for the next wave to be poised to land. It's far better to stall for time until we could mass produce nuclear weapons and delivery platforms for them, than become a province and ruled with their iron fist. But no, destroying ourselves because the government lost a war is such a better logical choice, and to top it off he most powerful state would be leaving and putting the entire country in a significantly worse position while the nazis gain strength. You might as well apply for a job in the Thalmor embassy, because that should would be going along with their plan hook-line and sinker.

You're a poor troll.

Real life shouldn't be used to argue points about a fictional world. It just doesn't work like that usually. For me anyways.

All Trolls are poor

Yeah. Not even frost trolls carry that much gold.