I wonder what the Stormcloaks would do if my Altmer Dovahkiin marched to Windhelm in his daedric armor and 100 destruction and challenged Ulfric to a duel which he can't refuse, and then just hurled him to the ocean with fireballs. Legit duel, don't complain.

He's like Rick Grimes from The Walking Dead.

"Ulfric, how can you justify killing the High King of Skyrim?"

"I got...old Nord stuff...things."

Yeah, shame on Torygg for not tanking a Fus Ro Dah. What a noob.

Supposedly he has every right to refuse as your LDB is not a Jarl

Being a Jarl has got nothing to do with it.

A High King must be able to defend his own people, and thus he must be able to defend himself as well. That's more or less what Ulfric himself said. If someone kills Ulfric, then there is no reason to assume he would have done any better as king.

Which brings us to many big problems with that logic. It's so Byzantine that I can't imagine why Ulfric doesn't see anything wrong about it. The system practically invites power hungry Nords to line up against the King.

Look I don't mind being corrected most times but think about it. Rank has its privaleges. I have seen nowehere that says a 'commoner' can challenge a Jarl to a duel. If you come up with evidence otherwise I'll retract my statement.

I see a lot of comments that seem to be said based on the perspective of laws we, as in the people who posted, use themselves. I'm not going to act like I know all about the "Old Ways," however, if what Ulfric did was a traditional way of challenging the High King, then what he did was fine. I mean challenging the "leader" to a duel is actually a common way traditionally war like civilizations go about things. So Ulfric is the bad guy because he called for a legitimate challenge, then killed the High King in a duel? How so? If you're going to lead a race of warriors, and nords are born warriors, you must be a warrior yourself. It wasn't murder, may have been one sided, but murder it was not. If you can't defend your throne from challengers you have no right to sit on it.

This. Ulfric using "Old Nordic Traditions" card, as always.

When Ulfric challenged Torygg, the challenge itself is legit. If Torygg surrendered, Ulfric wouldn't have committed any crime.

In any case, both of the outcome (surrender or death) will result in another Moot, so Ulfric never had any claim to begin with. I also have never heard him claiming he is the true High King in a sense that he's denied his position, but rather in a sense that he's the best high king for Skyrim.

The only Nords who have any rights to the Snow throne are the True Nords... Which only leaves the 8 holy Dragon Priests.

Out of the eight Priests of yore, there is one who is the most qualified. One whom you savages know well.

Give 'em hell Hev.

Yeah about that, I killed them all, I mean again...

I have seen many a True Nord of Old.

All of them will not win any breath test, so they're moot

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The Last Dragonborn isn't a commoner and your assertion to that notion is absurd. The title of Ysmir carries a lot of weight in Skyrim and that's before you also consider that the LDB may be recognised as a thane in the court of every Jarldom.

Is this poll more suited to your liking, Your Grace?

Hmm I must have missed that memo, for dead he is and his mask I took.

A thane is recognized as a hero, a person of importance but not given the respect of a jarl. I'm still waiting for your evidence.

You can dodge the thing. Hell, the Dragonborn takes weaker ones from draugr pretty well.

This mortal understands.

Yes. I commend thee for your acknowledgement of my legitimacy.

Is that why the savage king Ulfric http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/542959956180046447/04DF28F61CC00E9C809C0588C8C5E9C00ACDFF73/

Look let me be honest, Were it possible my DoVahKiin would set on Ulfric with a challenge and become High king of Skyrim himself but that can't happen. I know we're talking hypotheticals here and I agree with you. The simple point of fact is it WON'T happen. Whether we feel it is right or possible or not.

That was between you and Ulfric my good sir, I am not Ulfric.

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I voted yes.
He seems like he knows what to do and many people want him to rule. If he becomes king and turns out to be a [censored], I hope he gets assassinated.

Dodging a Shout is not like dodging an arrow (and even that's hard). Unrelenting Force is huge, and that's only in game. Lorewise Thu'um is large enough and strong enough to break down city walls. There is no dodging or tanking that, especially if you are not expecting it.