I did not know they actually had them! Since when?!! When I tried killing someone with my bare fists for fun I ended up grabbing him by the chest and repeatedly bashing him in the face....it was so.......beautiful.

I could of swore Bethesda said there wasn't going to be hand to hand finishers,and I have never heard anybody else even mention them,but the fact that they are actually in the game.....is awesome.

Its totally possible to create a monk character now,just gotta higher the heavy armor skill,get the gauntlet perk,and enchant them with fortify unarmed damage. Im definetly making a new character that only fights with his fists now.

aweaome! can you really do that! :intergalactic:

lol you're hilarious

Yes! All this time I never even knew there were actual hand to hand finishers,both in 3rd person and 1st person views. No one ever said anything! 300 hours into the game and I just now find out they have them.....lmfao.

Yeah, that really isn't a monk. A guy who beats people to death with steel gauntlets sure, but not a monk. Buy hey in your game all that matters is if it is fun for you.

Im just randomly using the word monk to correlate with hand to hand,hes not actually gonna look anything like a monk.

yesssss now i can fire enchant some gloves train with flame spells and my tsunayoshi charachter will be awesomes (avatar ftw!) :flamethrower: :intergalactic:

That sounds freakin sweet.....flaming fists of fury xD

I might do that,thats an awesome idea.

Edit: Wait,now that I think about it,is it even possible to enchant gloves with elemental damage?

No. The best you get is + hand to hand damage on the gloves and on a ring.

I really want a h2h mod to come out already so i can do a monk character.

yeah thers a shoddy perk and everything, but even with that its just not viable or fun for higher difficulty atm.

Ah alright,well atleast I can still roleplay as Subzero and fight with mainly hand to hand,and he actually wears gauntlets,and I can use ice spells for ranged attacks.

Heck,they even have his white pupil-less eyes in character creation,and a ice freezing shout,its foolproof.

uh oh hadnt thought of that......... :intergalactic:

The most unarmed damage you can possibly even get, assuming you're a khajiit, is like..60 or something like that. The perk only takes into account the gauntlet's base AR and none of the extra AR heavy armor perks, which is pretty crappy and makes it pretty terrible once you start getting a little higher level. It's definitely strong right when you start out though, but drops off pretty fast.

yep this sept with flames...ill also see if i can enchant a circlet with self fire damage for the flamey hair effect :intergalactic:

You can try using the Flame Cloak spell,it pretty much wraps your entire body in fire and anyone nearby takes damage. I'll be using the Frost Cloak for my Subzero!

Oh that's not even the best one my favorite is

That sounds so sweet,I CANNOT WAIT to kill a certain "someone" with that finisher.

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I find this association of monks with unarmed combat rather odd. Surely they'd pray their troubles away instead? Unless you mean Shaolin monks or something. But even that's more folklore.

good idea :bowdown:

I didn't mean actual monks,I just used the word monk to associate making a class that uses hand to hand combat.

I discovered these finishers while playing through Helgan without gaining any levels, I was pleasantly surprised.
What REALLY annoys me is Morrowinf had an Hand to Hand/Unarmored skill that allowed us to do pretty decent damage with fists while gaining ways to build protection against damage without armor, now I understand that it was something people rarely used but to be honest I think it's ridiculous that they were removed right when they finally upgraded unarmed combat to be more fun and feasible to use.

(I always used H2H in Morrowind anyway as Minor skill, for sapping all their Fatigue in one hit at Higher levels and knocking them over, it was really handy)

I blame Final Fantasy Tactics.

God, I love that game.