COTA Thanatos but it will be likely changed into something else prior to Brink or Homefront. Maybe something like Wraith of Khan

And I thought bear cavalry was bad.

Didnt know High Priests were allowed to moonlight....OMG THE CHURCH IS A FRONT...I'm in too deep now, what do i do? :cold:

YOU WILL FEAR ME....30 seconds after my rush begins

On a sidenote, since some people started giving eachother friend invites:

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1097221-xbox-gamers-the-list/page__st__180

For all you Xbox'ers who want to play together

I wish there were as many Medium enthusiasts as there are Heavy ones. I feel alone out here :violin:

Face it there is nothing you can do. You know what we do to heretics... :flamethrower: bliviongate:

30 seconds you might move what 10 feet? By the time I am done with you will be jumping at the shadows :batman: and maybe corpses


Thanks for posting it you beat me to that.

Its hard to be gung ho about a compromise. Other than Ben Franklin, I don't know many extreme moderates. "I believe anybody not in favor of moderation and compromise ought to be castrated. And all this should be sent down to the Parliament...for they seem to need, how shall I put it...stones?"

Well if your sneaky I can welcome you to the sneaky bastard's gentlemen club. We have cookies and for some inexplicable reasons :turtle: turtles.



I love that quote funny I have uttered something strangely similar to it. At least for my political beliefs. I am writing that down.

Ahh but one can't always trust an extremist. “Never go to excess, but let moderation be your guide.” - Marcus Tullius Cicero

Back to the topic at hand. FEAR (unsure of the sequel) had the option to disarm yourself. You could put your gun(s) away and sprint about like a hooligan. It did indeed speed your movement up a great deal, but it put you at a great disadvantage entering a firefight. However, you could still punch people and give 'em a beat down the old fashioned way.

In terms of Brink, I think both sides have valid points. I believe a good compromise would be that if a player is holding a one-handed weapon (pistol, machine pistol, etc), then their movement as well as mantling and so on is increased in speed by perhaps.. 33%? Shoot whenever, plus it just makes sense.

Thanks for the invitation but I'm nowhere near sneaky. I let my presence be known and felt. Cookies and turtles sound really nice though...

I like this motto better
"...how am I gonna stop some big, mean Mother Hubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer: Use a gun. And if that don't work? Use more gun."

33% speed increase is a lot. Think about how fast Lights will be....+ 33% speed increase. Hey Flash

Very nice. I like the way you think

Spoken like a true engineer.

As for my motto....

Right behind you!

I believe only secondary (one handed) weapons can be used while mantling etc.

I said earlier in the post that maybe if you speed up the mantling time for unarmed people then they would have a better chance of getting away from those pesky mini-gun toting heavys . and you are talking about quite a big speed increase but all i was thinking was a little boost that made you slightly faster than an armed version of that body type/class so that you can escape the fight and get to your objective rather than sticking in the thick of it all and getting your head blown off every 5 seconds...

can i just ask if you could show the link to where you saw this because i have my doubts..

Speed boost would reduce the effectiveness of the light. More speed for mediums/heavies mean that they can go to more places or use more routes. If medium or heavy receives a boost, they will take away a part of the Lights trump card.
You can argue that the light also receives a speed boost, but he will only gain speed, not more routes like the other bodytypes.

not that I'm supporting the idea, but sheer speed doesn't make you jump any higher. Nor make your arms stonger (in the case of a heavy that cant pull himself over anything above his waist)

Yeah, I think the amount of "smart" you can do is always constant among body types (unless there is a buff to change it) A speed buff would just make you faster, not more mobile.

Yes, but it does give you extra options when you're moving to lower areas. Let's take the airport vid about smart as an example. If you jump over the railing you will land on some kind of plateau. A medium or heavy can get over the railing, but not on the plateau, but with increased speed they might reach it. (not sure if this is true, it's just an example.

I'll rephrase what I wanted to say initially. With increased speed, some routes will become more viable for medium and heavies.

33% speed increase was just a rough number. I should clarify. Sprint speed would be increased more like by 10%, mantling speeds and the like would be increased by 33%. The speed increase does NOT affect purely physics related activities. Just because you can claim over a wall faster doesn't mean you can magically move through the air faster. Inertia from running affect the speed of your movement in the air, of course, but that would only be a 10% increase because you're only moving 10%. But climbing up onto the ledge you grabbed onto on the other side would be 33% faster due to the ease at which you can do it with a hand free.

Sure, heavies and mediums could use one-handed weapons to help counter their increased weight and decreased speed, but in doing so they sacrifice sheer firepower, something that those two bodytypes are more focused towards. A heavy might be bearing down on you slightly faster than you expected, but he's not going to be particularly scary with just a pistol in his hand. :V

Just like a light would be incredibly agile with just a pistol, able to reach objectives and flank opponents easily. Alternatively, he could take an SMG to increase is firepower for holding an objective once he has it. Checks and balances. Pros and cons.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1151640-2-late-ideas/


In fact, Mirror's Edge had quite a complex weapon system without them being a very important factor.

Okay, nice remembering skills. I didn't remember it, because of all the repeated posts.

i misunderstood it from the title(happens to me all the time), but after reading the first post i understood what you meant and thus canceled my flaming plan.
still, it's a shooter. can't see a valid reason to holster your gun in a shooter or it would have to be Brink with maps 10 times as big as i expect them to be(lots of ground to cover making the difference in speed usefull, and large areas where the chance you run into an enemy is small)