Unarmed option-thoughts wanted

Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:16 pm

I was thinking and after looking at some earlier posts of everyones i thought,
what if there was an option to unequip your weapon so that it made you slightly faster and climbing/vaulting animations were a bit quicker

i.e you run up a wall and pull yourself up, (animation being quite slow) but if you were unarmed it would take half/three quarters of that time

im new to the forum but wanted to get this idea out there. i just wondered what other people thought about this one?
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Michelle Serenity Boss
 
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:45 pm

I think that might actually slow gameplay down, because when you run into people you would have to take cover and pull your gun out, instead of being able to shoot at any time like SD wants.
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Sophie Louise Edge
 
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:17 pm

It's an original idea. I haven't seen it before.

I don't think they will put it in though. They said more than once that they want you to be able to shoot at all times. That's the reason why they didn't add rolling and advanced parkour stuff. The focus is on shooting.

Welcome to the forums by the way.

Edit: and Shadowcat was faster. (Shadow, you're a nasty Light :P)
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:46 pm

It's an original idea. I haven't seen it before.

I don't think they will put it in though. They said more than once that they want you to be able to shoot at all times. That's the reason why they didn't add rolling and advanced parkour stuff. The focus is on shooting.

Welcome to the forums by the way.

first off thanks, and second, i just thought that maybe if i was playing as a light guy maybe an operative? that i would want to get across the battlefield quickly.
So my idea was maybe map a button for it or something? i dont know but i figured it might be useful for guys that may want to avoid the main conflict in the middle
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Josh Sabatini
 
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:06 pm

That's because he's powered by epic turtles :turtle:
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:11 am

For realism's sake, it would make a lot of sense - would be a lot easier to climb if you shoulder your rifle instead of keeping it at ready, but one of the goals for brink was this idea of "moving AND shooting, not moving OR shooting". So while yours is an interesting idea, it conflict's with the developers ideas. Had they been focusing on realism in Brink, I wouldnt be surprised to see it in the game, maybe some future parkour game will include it.

P.S. In Mirror's Edge, there was no way to use a lot of the parkour moves while carrying a two-handed weapon, you would just have to drop it before you moved on. So your idea is right on the money, its just not right for brink.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:54 pm

also another point i want to make,

if i made the choice of going unarmed, im taking a risk as anyone i bump into may have a few seconds advantage over me but im aware of that before i do it.
AND in the trailer it shows the security guy jumping onto the crane and he is unarmed, i mean maybe thats just to look cool but yeah?
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:51 pm

For realism's sake, it would make a lot of sense - would be a lot easier to climb if you shoulder your rifle instead of keeping it at ready, but one of the goals for brink was this idea of "moving AND shooting, not moving OR shooting". So while yours is an interesting idea, it conflict's with the developers ideas. Had they been focusing on realism in Brink, I wouldnt be surprised to see it in the game, maybe some future parkour game will include it.

P.S. In Mirror's Edge, there was no way to use a lot of the parkour moves while carrying a two-handed weapon, you would just have to drop it before you moved on. So your idea is right on the money, its just not right for brink.

yeah i understand that and i see where you are coming from but i think im going to stick to my argument and hope for the best ;)
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:51 am

also another point i want to make,

if i made the choice of going unarmed, im taking a risk as anyone i bump into may have a few seconds advantage over me but im aware of that before i do it.
AND in the trailer it shows the security guy jumping onto the crane and he is unarmed, i mean maybe thats just to look cool but yeah?

Just thought I would point this out: A list of things from the trailer that you cant actually do >.>
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1154289-list-of-what-you-cant-do-from-the-trailer/
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:12 am

Mirror's Edge had weapons? I thought you just jumped around and ran from people in that game.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:27 am

first off thanks, and second, i just thought that maybe if i was playing as a light guy maybe an operative? that i would want to get across the battlefield quickly.
So my idea was maybe map a button for it or something? i dont know but i figured it might be useful for guys that may want to avoid the main conflict in the middle

For as far we know, the option to put your gun away isn't there, so it would be impossible to map a button for it.

If you want speed, Light will be indeed the way to go. I don't think Lights should engage in any main battle, except to support their team or surprise the other one. Lights are probably more for one v one, flanking and rushing to certain objectives.

You can play any class with any bodytype and vice versa, you don't NEED to go operative if you're light, nor do you NEED to be a light if you are playing as a light. You can choose freely.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:30 am

How does the light use the rifle? The light should only be able to use one handed weapons so they can climb.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:51 am

How does the light use the rifle? The light should only be able to use one handed weapons so they can climb.

But all body types can climb...
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:09 pm

For as far we know, the option to put your gun away isn't there, so it would be impossible to map a button for it.

If you want speed, Light will be indeed the way to go. I don't think Lights should engage in any main battle, except to support their team or surprise the other one. Lights are probably more for one v one, flanking and rushing to certain objectives.

You can play any class with any bodytype and vice versa, you don't NEED to go operative if you're light, nor do you NEED to be a light if you are playing as a light. You can choose freely.

i know you dont have to be an operative as a light but the way i see it a light soldier wouldnt do much good on the frontlines would he?

Engineer and medic yeah thats ok but i think if your a light guy then the best way to make use of it is to be an operative, quickly getting to an objective then interrogate a guy or something? but again i think of moving quicker if i was unarmed
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:15 am

Dunno about you guys but i can carry a rifle one handed easy, it a bit heavy but not hard.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:42 am

Mirror's Edge had weapons? I thought you just jumped around and ran from people in that game.

You could pick them up off of people you beat up, but once the clip was gone you had to drop them. I personally had more fun disarming people which would dispatch them instantly (even though it was a QTE in retrospect, guess it was just done well)

The fact that you couldn't two-handers with you made machine pistols (and even regular pistols) quite valuable, I would often leave those weapons for last, then bring them with me once I moved on.

Dunno about you guys but i can carry a rifle one handed easy, it a bit heavy but not hard.

Sure but can you do a mantle with a rifle in one hand? That's how they do it in brink, and it doesn't seem very practical.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:07 am

But all body types can climb...


Yeah moderate heights if you're medium and low if you're heavy... but how can you parkour and use a two handed weapon at the same time? So you can shoot your rifle one handed if you're a medium climbing a wall? Or if you're a heavy jumping a railing you can one hand your LMG?
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:21 am

i know you dont have to be an operative as a light but the way i see it a light soldier wouldnt do much good on the frontlines would he?

Engineer and medic yeah thats ok but i think if your a light guy then the best way to make use of it is to be an operative, quickly getting to an objective then interrogate a guy or something? but again i think of moving quicker if i was unarmed

A light soldier rushes objectives that he can destroy with his HE charge. He can supply people with ammo, pretty much everywhere on the map. He shouldn't even be near the frontlines.
A heavy operative will also have it's uses. If he can get himself disguised, pop up behind enemy lines and start massacring the other te with his minigun. ..

The option is not there, and Tbh, I won't mis it. Extra speed means also that mediums and heavies can get over more obstacles and have increased speed, while the Light only receives increased speed in which he already excells. This would unbalance the bodytypes.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:20 am

Can you shoot someone with a short rifle while you do a wall hop? That seems super human to me.
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Post » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:53 pm

I like the idea but it wouldn't be so pleasant if you run into somebody with no weapon in hand. Easy kill . Good stuff though...welcome to the forums.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:18 am

Yeah moderate heights if you're medium and low if you're heavy... but how can you parkour and use a two handed weapon at the same time? So you can shoot your rifle one handed if you're a medium climbing a wall? Or if you're a heavy jumping a railing you can one hand your LMG?

i heard somewhere that a heavy cant make use of the SMART system at all, only running and jumping manually i dont remember where though sorry =/
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:28 am

I like that SP says you can be able to shoot at all times. But I think when you're doing more complicated things that statement would more so apply to lighter weapons.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:16 am

Sure but can you do a mantle with a rifle in one hand? That's how they do it in brink, and it doesn't seem very practical.

Not quite, i tried it a few weeks back, i had to put the gun on the ledge then mu other hand and then get up, managed to keep my finger near enough to the trigger though.
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:16 am

I like the idea but it wouldn't be so pleasant if you run into somebody with no weapon in hand. Easy kill . Good stuff though...welcome to the forums.

as i said earlier if i want to take that risk then i can, in my view they could put it in but with cons as well as pros, such as

Pro's: You would be faster, more agile
Con's: Would have to get your weapon out in conflict

and tbh thats pretty much the only con i could think of, give your ideas though if you see any other problems
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Post » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:42 am

Can you shoot someone with a short rifle while you do a wall hop? That seems super human to me.

Firing while sprinting or jumping gives you a lot more spread. You can TRY with a short rifle, but I expect it would be like no-scoping in other games, you get a few shots off and they hit somewhere in a 3" box.
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