Ok so every person who's been to a hands-on gaming convention and got to see these two things have never had anything good to say about them. They've been described as "worse than Fallout" as well as "8/10 on the ugly meter." I too have seen swimming in some PAX footage and I couldn't agree more. Why have Bethesda ignored such a big part of their game? We know they've added subaquatic dungeons and puzzles so what's the deal with this? It seems to me like they've taken the same system from Oblivion and done little to nothing to improve it. This is not that hard a mechanic to work out yet it appears as if it has been given barely any attention. Every animation I've seen so far looks great except for this one. This one is just down right horrible. Didn't like it five years ago; absolutely hate it now.

Here's just a quote on how going underwater is from one of our fellow forum members:

Sure it may not be pretty, but it gets the job done.

Sort of like a cheap hoker?

Looks amazing to me.

It's just a swimming animation, no big deal to me.

Let's be honest here for a second, who on Earth swims in 3rd person? I have NEVER swam in 3rd person in any TES game, it's just clumsy and you can't see anything.

A complete non-issue for me.

Al. Pha. Build.

wat

If you want to go swimming go find a pool kid. I would rather have my water look nice and natural.......... swimming....

Hopefully this will be improved by release.

Exactly. Swimming is Skyrim's Cheap hoker.

The actual water itself has been described as beautiful on all accounts anyway. Plus.......Alpha build.

Meh :shrug: I don't swim all that often, and when I do I am never in the third person...

Me. Always.


It's going to be released in less than two months. Not much they can do to change it now.


The map has many rivers and lakes as well as one giant body of water. Not to mention all the submerged dungeons. We're going to be swimming a lot.


What? That's got to be the saddest rebuttal to a complaint I've ever seen. Not even kidding.


I think it looks amazing... when no one's in it.

Delta Build. Nuff said.

That's starting to become a buzzword around here.

It's an alpha build. Because in the finished version of the game, there won't be any water at all!

:whistling:

I do hope your not expecting every single thing in terms of graphics to be upgraded in terms of quality.. what you see now is what you will get when it goes gold, Alpha build or not.

Oblivion had bigger, more bodies of water... swimming, especially underwater parts were greatly in the minority.

2,5 years to fix animations & underwater already for Skyrim. 10 years to fix underwater issue for TES entirely.
Water is not made in the last few months of the game, it's made at the start.

Alpha build is a bad argument in this case. We simply have to accept the fact that some things will be plain bad and ugly.

This.

edit: Wrong thread.

One question..... does it look better than Oblivion in general? does it run better or worse than Oblivion? I can live with Oblivion's quality but nothing worse

Pretty annoying, but then this is Bethesda who fail at animation just be glad the other animations look as good as they do. It will probably take them another 10 years before they manage swimming and ladders, 20 before they fix rain clipping.

Sort of like your mom?